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Lobster
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PostPosted: Tue 17 Apr 2012, 09:16    Post subject:  

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For the benefit of those reading the forum here yes there are two types of USB hubs. The normal type is non powered, its just a USB splitter kind of thing that turns one usb port into 4 or however many.


I read about the powered USB hubs but for a USB keydrive and mouse, I seem to be able to use the unpowered.

I tried to apt-get some more programs
No Seamonkey, firefox or Opera - how do I get a listing of packages similar to what I am looking for or browsers?
I used something called aptitutde yesterday but I have no aptitude for it. Wink
Inkscape seems the only program available but it took up too much space . . . que? I have a four gig SD card. Is the pi user space likely to be limited? Ah well, I purged and autocleaned barely knowing what I am up to but no luck.

I am off to find a simple bit of script to run from the command line.
I am using the command line more in the last couple of days than the previous year. If only I was more able.

I asked rpi to send Barry a Pi board - I hope they did. He is back tomorrow.

The Rpi is a fabulous pice of kit because of two expansion cables as well as pins to connect to stuff [stuff is a technical term]

Been sunny and rainy - sunny now - time to take the Raspberry Puppy board for a walk . . .

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PostPosted: Tue 17 Apr 2012, 09:28    Post subject:  

Lobster wrote:
I tried to apt-get some more programs. No Seamonkey, firefox or Opera - how do I get a listing of packages similar to what I am looking for or browsers?.

Look in the file /etc/apt/sources.list.
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PostPosted: Tue 17 Apr 2012, 11:26    Post subject:  

rcrsn51 wrote:
Lobster wrote:
I tried to apt-get some more programs. No Seamonkey, firefox or Opera - how do I get a listing of packages similar to what I am looking for or browsers?.

Look in the file /etc/apt/sources.list.


all the browsers are there, but debian has different names for them all:

iceweasel = firefox
iceape = seamonkey

so use apt-get update first, then try:

apt-get install iceweasel

there are other ice-browsers dunno what the other names are, there is some disagreement or licencing problem that debian had to work around or something. However, the iceweasel in the debian squeeze repo is version 3. something (this is how it is in the normal debain repos, dunno about ARM), firefox is version 11 now but the debian repos lag behind. However you may find that if you go to seamonkey website you can download the source and compile it.

Is midori the default browser in debian raspberry pi?

midori is by far the fastest loading and scores 100% on the html acid test, but the only drawback i can tell is it doesnt support java. (supports java script ofcause but not java.. they 2 different things).
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PostPosted: Tue 17 Apr 2012, 11:29    Post subject:  

antiloquax wrote:
Lobster wrote:
In Debian Squeeze
I need to be su to use apt-get or aptitude

Tried return (no password)
raspberry (it should be this surely)
and suse (I think that was for the previous debian not sure why)


sudo passwd

Then you can set root password.
Smile


also sudo -i should give you root without need for password
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PostPosted: Tue 17 Apr 2012, 13:26    Post subject:  

Quote:
Look in the file /etc/apt/sources.list.

not much in there
or in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
m m m . . .

Quote:
Is midori the default browser in debian raspberry pi

Yes it is. It was chosen because of its speed

Today I copied over a bash script - very simple
and ran it OK
Getting familiar with the hardware
and remembering any cli skills I may once have had.

gcc is in Squeeze
various editors - geany, leafpad - also python editors

Cool

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PostPosted: Wed 18 Apr 2012, 01:25    Post subject:  

Hi Lobster,
I have been trying to compile JWM in my virtual RPi. I ran into problems at the "./configure" stage - it couldn't find X11. I set the options to look in "/usr/include" and "/usr/lib" but that didn't help.
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Apr 2012, 02:42    Post subject:  

Mark
We will be disorganizing soon . . . Wink
can not help with the jwm question - too ignorant - me that is, not you

Just remember, the skills you are developing, will be so useful when the hardware arrives.

I was very pleased to hear that Eben was delivering the first Rpi batch to kids. The geeks kids will be our teachers, advisers and fellow travelers.
I know everyone wants hardware but moving towards a demand for hundreds of thousands of boards has been handled openly and was a smart move by the Rpi foundation. There is now hope for all.

OK got to make you green now . . .
gonna power up the TV and Rpi board Mr. Green

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PostPosted: Wed 18 Apr 2012, 02:44    Post subject:  

@lobster

Code:
apt-cache policy (browser name or application name goes here)


should narrow things down a bunch. for the big list. Go to Search for packages

on this page



http://wiki.debian.org/AptCLI#Search_for_packages

and for reference.

http://www.debian.org/doc/ddp

I've been a AntiX user for ages.

Happy Trails, Rok[/code]
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Apr 2012, 02:50    Post subject:  

@ antiloquax

Have you tried the command

Code:
locate X11


I know it spits out a lot. Maybe you can find where to look.[/code]

Edit: by the way. X11 folder usually sits in /etc folder in Debian.
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Apr 2012, 03:00    Post subject:  

re: jwm in debian
dont have to compile
the whole idea of running debian is that you can install all your basic packages automatically via the command: apt-get install

so just use: apt-get install jwm
and it will be installed and configured and work immediately
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Apr 2012, 03:39    Post subject:  

Quote:
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Is midori the default browser in debian raspberry pi

Yes it is. It was chosen because of its speed



But does this version do SSL? In other words what happens when you go to an https site?
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Apr 2012, 04:07    Post subject:  

sickgut wrote:
re: jwm in debian
dont have to compile
the whole idea of running debian is that you can install all your basic packages automatically via the command: apt-get install

so just use: apt-get install jwm
and it will be installed and configured and work immediately


Thanks - I am running RPi Debian under qemu (without network). I'll check the repos again - and see if I can do it that way. I have a virtual usb drive that I can use to pass things to my Virtual Pi.

Do I have to use a specific Debian ARM repo? ANd where is it? Sorry for my ignorance ...
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Apr 2012, 04:08    Post subject:  

rokytnji wrote:
@ antiloquax

Have you tried the command

Code:
locate X11


I know it spits out a lot. Maybe you can find where to look.[/code]

Edit: by the way. X11 folder usually sits in /etc folder in Debian.


I did look in /etc - it didn't seem to be there. I did find X11 folders in /usr/lib and /usr/include. Thanks for your help.
mark Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed 18 Apr 2012, 04:19    Post subject:  

Lobster

Glad to hear that Squeeze has gcc, any idea which version?
Depending also which version of Bash is being used, I suspect that
BaCon can be used on the Pi.

Any CLI editors like nano on there?

Sorry about all the questions but you're the only one around here
that actually has a Pi.
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Apr 2012, 04:22    Post subject:  

Thanks guys for info
.
In the land of the raspberries for this post.
Just tried to send an email from gmail.
It no working from midori - no idea why (worked from my ipad)

I tried apt-get install jwm
and it would have worked but I have run out of space to install it.
How? I dunno . . .
On the forum the animated emoticons (on the left) are flickering rather than animated gfs - sort of pre animation . . .

Also to boot up I had to use sudo su
- so i may reinstall two copies of Squeeze (one backup)
and start again

then the plan is try some more bash scripting . . .

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