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Jim1911

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PostPosted: Mon 12 Mar 2012, 10:34    Post subject:    
Hi Mick,

You are on the right track. Already there is a Slacko puplet version out that uses the so called 32/64 bit super kernel. Kirk has a new Fatdog 64-600 about ready for testing. Unfortunately, TazOC is ill and hasn't been able to continue support for LHP 64-514 or his 32 bit 503 which are both fine pups. Hopefully, he will get well and return.

64 bit is still the wave of the future. The need for 32 bit is dimensioning. Puppy cannot afford to remain as support for just older hardware.

Cheers,
Jim
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PostPosted: Mon 12 Mar 2012, 11:17    Post subject:  
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the performance gain was small

Over the years, I've spoken with a number of industry specialists about 64bit. They all said much the same - 64bit advantage depends very much on application. The two main hold-ups in PC use are the HD and your ISP. Since most folks use their PC s (not mobiles!) to send emails, browse the Net, write to their mum and the Revenue, virtually no 64bit advantage accrues. More than anything, the future points firmly to the release of massive numbers of allegedly obsolete boxes - the perfect vehicle for Puppy and for preventing landfill. Don't join the lemmings unless your profession demands it!
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Mon 12 Mar 2012, 11:22    Post subject:  
Aufs bug has got new bug fix:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=611556#611556
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01micko


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PostPosted: Mon 12 Mar 2012, 16:22    Post subject:  
pemasu wrote:
Aufs bug has got new bug fix:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=611556#611556

That is great news! I'll recompile k3.1.10, seems the best balance between old and new for the time being.
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Jades

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PostPosted: Mon 12 Mar 2012, 16:27    Post subject:  
5.3.2.6 still running nicely on the Pentium D. I've noticed that SFS-Load bleats about unionfs support being experimental but I haven't encountered any oddities while using the SFS files I have loaded.
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PostPosted: Mon 12 Mar 2012, 16:35    Post subject:  
01micko wrote:
pidgin-2.10.1-i486-s.pet


Thanks, seems to be working well on 5.3.2.6 on the Pentium D, although I only use IRC. Thanks also for doing it i486, it should work on the 5.3.1 install on my K6 (which can't run newer Slackos).
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MinHundHettePerro


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PostPosted: Mon 12 Mar 2012, 21:13    Post subject:  
Jim1911 wrote:
64 bit is still the wave of the future. The need for 32 bit is dimensioning. Puppy cannot afford to remain as support for just older hardware.

Cheers,
Jim
Well, I'm on a 32-bit machine and cannot see me being able to go 64-bit in the foreseeable future ... So, please, continue with 32-bit slacko Smile.

01micko wrote:
The immediate future is still 533 with support for 32 bit arch and 32 bit PAE. I'm not a huge fan of PAE but while there's demand I'll build it, ...
Thanks Very Happy

01micko wrote:
...... and I haven't had time to venture in to 64 territory except for a brief flirt with Iguleder's roar-ng, a fascinating project for which I wish I had time.
Roar-ng is a very competent builder of pup-alikes, I've played around with it quite a bit, building, mostly slackware-based, 32-bit systems - so, if you'd find the time to indulge ... Smile Smile

Cheers Smile/ MHHP
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jemimah


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PostPosted: Mon 12 Mar 2012, 22:39    Post subject:  
01micko wrote:
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perhaps even 64 bit only.

Please not!


Well it is a perhaps... perhaps I'll drop PAE if I go 64 bit and keep 32 bit support chugging along with the smp kernel. Pure speccing at this stage.

The immediate future is still 533 with support for 32 bit arch and 32 bit PAE. I'm not a huge fan of PAE but while there's demand I'll build it, and I haven't had time to venture in to 64 territory except for a brief flirt with Iguleder's roar-ng, a fascinating project for which I wish I had time.


It it's just a question of kernel compile parameters, I've got code that lets the user switch the kernel and build a new ISO automatically. You could make several kernel pets available and let the user choose without having to maintain multiple isos. Of course this makes dealing with 3rd party kernel modules a real PITA depending on how many kernels you have.
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PostPosted: Tue 13 Mar 2012, 07:51    Post subject:  
5.3.2.7x is .... out



See main post
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Sage

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PostPosted: Tue 13 Mar 2012, 08:14    Post subject:  
5.3.2.7:
Nice - very nice, but...
...Xorg default is rated @ 1600x???, same feature as Saluki. This may well be for reasons explained by Jemimah, but the risk of overdriving folks' monitors so severely is that some of them will be sending you a bill for a new one! Whatever the origin of these false default selections, whether it be a Puppy or an Xorg issue, it needs to be fixed PDQ, before the hounds descend looking for a cash reimbursement...
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Billtoo

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PostPosted: Tue 13 Mar 2012, 09:35    Post subject: slacko 5.3.3, back to beta2
Subject description: flash drive install		  
Manual frugal install to a 4gb flash drive.

Slacko Puppy, version 5.3.2.7p on Tue 13 Mar 2012

Chip description:
0.0 VGA compatible controller
nVidia Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 430] (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: GF108 Board - 1071v0p1 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg
Driver used: nvidia

X.Org version: 1.9.5
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (524x292 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

# glxgears
62807 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12561.295 FPS
63069 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12613.754 FPS
63082 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12616.203 FPS

I installed mesa and the proprietary nvidia driver.
No problems so far.
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PostPosted: Tue 13 Mar 2012, 12:55    Post subject: Re: slacko 5.3.3, back to beta2
Subject description: 5.3.2.7 and 5.3.2.7p		  
01micko wrote:

(for devx rename an older one, libs are unchanged)


What about kernel headers? Wink

Strangely, after updating from 2.6 to 2.7 got me through the setup screen where it had my previous settings (except a "strange" monitor resolution). It also failed to see my (wired) net connection.
After reboot everything was fine.
Maybe the union to aufs shift, tripped it somehow?
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PostPosted: Tue 13 Mar 2012, 13:07    Post subject:  
01micko wrote:
After that Slacko will enter a new phase, perhaps even 64 bit only.
Mmmm, like it Very Happy

If there's anything specific you want me to do, please give me a note.


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PostPosted: Tue 13 Mar 2012, 13:12    Post subject:  
No problems. Save file more or less updated fine but took a re-boot to activate synaptics. Also overwrote .jwmrc-tray so had to restore it from back up and wallpaper was re set.
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PostPosted: Tue 13 Mar 2012, 13:17    Post subject: slacko 5.3.3, back to beta2
Subject description: firefox11 beta8		  
I compiled firefox 11.0 beta8 in 5.3.2.7p and made a pet of it.
I downloaded the newest flash player from adobe.com and put it in
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and it's working fine.

The download link for firefox-11.0-beta8-slacko.pet is:



http://www.datafilehost.com/download-8ba2427a.html
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