slacko 5.3.3, final

[Lobster]

Did a pristine boot from 5.3.2.6 (supports up to 4G RAM) version
- had to try it

Everything set up fine
Added one piece of software - the mesa driver from slickpet
rebooted x and got black screen of death

I rebooted back into Saluki as I was in the middle of something
Does that mean the mesa driver has to be compiled for the specific kernel?

[01micko]

Ati/Amd radeon Lob?

Yeah i switched on modesetting for KMS, it was actually to test a bugfix for woof. I'll switch it off for next time.

Boot pfix=nox (either edit menu.lst on the fly with the "e" button or at the prompt if booting off CD.)

When pup is booted he leaves you at the dreary command prompt.

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echo "options radeon modeset=0" > /etc/modules.d/radeon.conf
reboot

Should be ok then.

[Lobster]

Ati/Amd radeon Lob?
Yeah i switched on modesetting for KMS, it was actually to test a bugfix for woof. I'll switch it off for next time.

Yep
this is the radeon details

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Chip description:
 0.0 VGA compatible controller
 ATI Technologies Inc RV710 [Radeon HD 4350]  
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: RV710 01.00

[OscarTalks]

Tried 5.3.2.6 and if I input the 3 drop-down settings for London UK on that initial welcome set-up thing and click "OK" the video just freaks out and I have to force shut-down.

Country = en Great Britain
Time Zone = Europe/London or GMT +0 (London/Dublin...)
Keyboard = en UK

Seems to be a combination of the three on that window. If I accept other wrong settings (such as the ones that are there when it opens) and then select the correct ones later from menu options I can get everything as it should be.

Same thing happened when I tried Racy 5.2.2.8 yesterday though I didn't persist for quite so long.

Happened the same on 2 different (older I must admit) desktops.

[nooby]

I 'm out of luck with this .iso I downloaded from the link
in the first page I boot with pfix=ram on a Acer D255
which seems to be a 64bit cpu? Slacko 5324 work good
I use it now to write this. 5326 totally fail to boot.

It says a lot of things in RED color.

like this: /lib/keymap/pu*.gz No such file or directory

It also report: puppy_slacko_5.3.2.6.sfs not found
and it says: input:AT Translated Set 2 keymap as /xxxxx and so on

I don't get a word of that and I hastely tried to write it from screen

Edit another thing seems to be that even on Slacko 5324 /mnt/home/ is on this place
/initrd/mnt/dev_save/

I boot with grub4dos on NTFS using this menu.lst

title Slacko5326 1024x768 JWM. nolapic rootnoverify (hd0,1)
rootnoverify (hd0,1)
kernel /slacko5326/vmlinuz pmedia=hdscsi psubdir=slacko5326 puppy i915.modeset=1 pfix=fsck
initrd /slacko5326/initrd.gz


title Slacko-5324 B5 1024x768 JWM. nolapic rootnoverify (hd0,1)
find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /slacko5324/initrd.gz
kernel /slacko5324/vmlinuz psubdir=slacko5324 puppy i915.modeset=1 pfix=fsck
initrd /slacko5324/initrd.gz

I've tested both versions of rootnoverify (hd0,1)
find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /slacko5324/initrd.gz

Does that mean I ahve done something very wrong?
I don't remember that Lucid behave like that?
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So if I get it this is the latest version of Slacko and the one that will become the official Puppy when some bugs is ironed out?

[nooby]

Another problem with 5324 hope it is okay I take it up here
I don't trust it is solved in 5326 so it can be relevant.

When I do SFS-Load then it gives this report see screen cap attached.

Do you want to move xxxx from /mnt/home to /initrd/mnt/dev_save/

Thanks BigPup I am willing to try anything you recommend

[bigpup]

Nooby,

That Grub4dos menu.lst entry for 5326 does not look like a good entry for Grub4dos. It looks like one used by Grub.
Look at the difference, in the entry below it, that works for 5324.
If you run "Grub4dos bootloader config", it should give you a working entry. May still need to add the puppy i915.modeset=1 pfix=fsck to the kernel line.

[nooby]

If you run "Grub4dos bootloader config"

That would destroy all the working entries I already have now.
So that may work on slacko but destroy al lthe Ubuntu special
versions I do have.

How can I test it without getting things messed up? Make a backuup of menulist but a bad things about that program is that it wants to
add a mbr too and I already have such most likely?
So that would not be good at all. Any less damaging suggestion?

It could work if I install on a usb flash or something? Not on the hard drive.
That way it would search all drives and add what it see as proper code for all OS

The easiest would be to ask somebody that already have done the thing you suggest They would already know

ICPUG who cares a lot about frugal install if I get him he suggest
this for slacko531

title Slacko Puppy Linux 5.3.1
kernel (hd1,0)/slacko531/vmlinuz PMEDIA=idehd PDEV1=sdb1 psubdir=slacko531
initrd (hd1,0)/slacko531/initrd.gz

so I will test that one and see if something differs I get back

[bigpup]

If Slacko 5326, is on partition sda1, of the hard drive and is installed to /slacko5326.
Do a manual edit of the menu.lst
Make a copy entry of the one for 5324 that works and change any place it says 5324 to 5326.
I am assuming a lot by saying this.

I see, you do use some added options, to the kernel line, that just running "Grug4dos bootloader config" will not add to an entry.
It still should find, any operating systems on the computer, and make entries for booting them.
I use it all the time. Let it write to the MBR, of the hard drive, and it places the other files on the first partition. That is where it puts the menu.lst.
It will replace other boot loaders. You know your setup and what you want.

[nooby]

BigPup don't take this personally now but I would not do this
unless I have no other means and the easiest thing is to ask
somebody that have already done this and ICPUG had.

So thanks to you I looked for that info and found it and it worked.
So a big thanks to you and to ICPUG for leading me in the right direction.

I am using 5326 now and have not had time to test anything else
but it looks like it is okay. So a very happy Nooby. Sorry to derail the thread.

Will be interesting to see of the initrd/mnt/dev_save is still seens
as /mnt/home

What idea do you have about that one?

Edit. Sadly after making a savefile and rebooting it failed to show
icons and clicking on them seems to fail too but menu worked
so seems a problematic version. Am I alone having these problems?

I am using a Acer D255 Netbook

[peebee]

Hi nooby

see page 3 -

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 9&start=31

where mick tells you how to cure the missing icons etc problem which occurs because you like me have an ntfs formatted hard disk.

cheers
peebee

[nooby]

Thanks. I where too caught up trying out a work around
so I reused an old slacko save file and that allowed me to
keep the icons and I am using that one now.

I fail to find a Geeqie picture viewer that works with Slacko though.
Maybe someone has made a pet or sfs that has not gone into the
repo?

The one I had on my HD did not work. It miss a vital lib.

Late at night here so I look into it tomorrow.

Thanks for linking to page three. I had a vague feeling that
there where something like that but I had forgot about it.

anyway I have put so many hours into this save file so I want
to keep it until the next big update at least.

Much appreciated that you cared.

[bigpup]

Nooby,

Good to see you got it working.
Your equipment seems to need specialized settings,
so you understand most, what you need.
Good to know it was a bad menu.lst entry, keeping Slacko from booting.

Keep in mind, this version of Slacko is in Beta. It will and should have problems.

I would be very interested in what you would get, if you did just run "Grub4dos bootloader config" and let it do it's normal install and menu.lst setup.

[shinobar]

If you run "Grub4dos bootloader config"

That would destroy all the working entries I already have now.

The Grub4dos config makes a backup of the existing menu.lst. You can manually edit the menu.lst looking up the new and the old.

[nooby]

Yes but I am a pessimistic person. I don't trust back ups.
If something can go wrong it sure will sooner or later.
So why fix something that do work. The work around do work.

But I do have 4GB Flash memory and if one do
Grub4dos bootloader config on one of them then
it will include a menu.lst that list of what is on the HD too?
IIRC that is.

So now when ICPUG has taught me the better way
should I apply that to every OS then ?

[peebee]

peebee, I can create a save file in ntfs that is just fine , just not using pupdialog! . If you drop to a prompt and shutdown/reboot the old way then all's well. I have sent a report to Barry and I captured a log of sorts which doesn't seem to mean a lot but I'll publish it anyway.

Hi Mick

I think the problem with ntfs formatted drives also seems to affect loading the kernel source sfs for compiling - I seem to have broken links in /lib/modules/3.1.10slacko to items on your partition sda8 for build and src

Cheers
peebee

[nooby]

Quote
the problem with ntfs formatted drives
/quote

I agree that NTFS is a very bad thing.
But if one want to retain warranty and
Ms Win7 whatever compatibility due to
needing it for smartphones and other
such gadgets that only have Win drivers.

SonyEricson phones needs it.

We have to talk to politicians to force Ms to
give us a good repair/defrag etc for NTFS
so NTFS can be a true Linux formatting tool.

some 90% of all sold desktops and laptops
have Ms Win already installed. It is not realistic
to force every user to learn how to resize and
to format partions. I ahve used computers since
them got affordable and I have used Linux since
2006 and I have no idea how one do resize and formatting.

And I would prefer to never learn it. Too dangerous stuff.
So yes it is a sad situation but that is reality. 90% is real.

[CatDude]

Hello peebee

..I think the problem with ntfs formatted drives also seems to affect loading the kernel source sfs for compiling - I seem to have broken links in /lib/modules/3.1.10slacko to items on your partition sda8 for build and src

Already been reported here mate
i don't think it has anything to do with how the drive is formatted (mine was ext3), it's simply due to 'dodgy sources' as mick put it.

CatDude
.

[futwerk]

a few backgrounds.

[Lobster]

Simple futwerk
Me like.

Mick I am trying to be everywhere at once
using quantum entanglement.
Sadly the Chronolgy Protection Agency
is only allowing me to use only one Puppy OS at a time.
I had a go with latest Racy this afternoon (local time),
so not giving Slacko new kernel the attention it deserves.

My plan is some sort of switch mechanism
a batch of spup and other powered Raspberry Pi's from the future
and a big pile of sardines . . .

Anyone willing to wiki
apply here:
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/SlackoNews