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I think that I sent you a pm to try the '-4' option with wget. Have you tried that?James C wrote:Fresh frugal install of 5.2.91. All basics working on initial boot.
Only problems are those mentioned earlier .... not really that big of a deal.As long as the PPM and browsers work I guess I can live without Wget.....
I sugest that you check with your local university to see if they are mirroring some part of ibiblio, if so it should be easy to get them to add a couple of extra's (puppylinux and quirky) if they are not already doing so. You can also always try M.I.T. or Berkley.Pete22 wrote:At other download sites for puppies: I can get similar sized puppies in about 4 minutes My brother can download them about as fast as he can click his mouse.
It takes more than 20 minutes to download a standard sized puppy from the ibiblio site, no matter how fast our personal connections are.
Would you consider allowing wary/racy to also be hosted at one of these faster download locations?
Pete
Been busy and forgot .......BarryK wrote:I think that I sent you a pm to try the '-4' option with wget. Have you tried that?James C wrote:Fresh frugal install of 5.2.91. All basics working on initial boot.
Only problems are those mentioned earlier .... not really that big of a deal.As long as the PPM and browsers work I guess I can live without Wget.....
That is, insert '-4' like this:
# wget -4 <url>
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# wget -4 http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/11.1.102.63/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz
--2012-03-31 03:01:37-- http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/11.1.102.63/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz
Resolving fpdownload.macromedia.com (fpdownload.macromedia.com)... 184.87.2.70
Connecting to fpdownload.macromedia.com (fpdownload.macromedia.com)|184.87.2.70|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 6746733 (6.4M) [application/x-gzip]
Saving to: `install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz'
100%[======================================>] 6,746,733 159K/s in 42s
2012-03-31 03:02:18 (158 KB/s) - `install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz' saved [6746733/6746733]
# Good. /usr/sbin/delayedrun calls /usr/sbin/download_file to download the flash player, and this already has the '-4' parameter for wget.James C wrote:Been busy and forgot .......BarryK wrote:I think that I sent you a pm to try the '-4' option with wget. Have you tried that?James C wrote:Fresh frugal install of 5.2.91. All basics working on initial boot.
Only problems are those mentioned earlier .... not really that big of a deal.As long as the PPM and browsers work I guess I can live without Wget.....
That is, insert '-4' like this:
# wget -4 <url>
Let's try to download Flash.....
Success.Glad you reminded me....Code: Select all
# wget -4 http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/11.1.102.63/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz --2012-03-31 03:01:37-- http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/11.1.102.63/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz Resolving fpdownload.macromedia.com (fpdownload.macromedia.com)... 184.87.2.70 Connecting to fpdownload.macromedia.com (fpdownload.macromedia.com)|184.87.2.70|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 6746733 (6.4M) [application/x-gzip] Saving to: `install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz' 100%[======================================>] 6,746,733 159K/s in 42s 2012-03-31 03:02:18 (158 KB/s) - `install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz' saved [6746733/6746733] #
Success again.BarryK wrote:Good. /usr/sbin/delayedrun calls /usr/sbin/download_file to download the flash player, and this already has the '-4' parameter for wget.James C wrote:Been busy and forgot .......BarryK wrote: I think that I sent you a pm to try the '-4' option with wget. Have you tried that?
That is, insert '-4' like this:
# wget -4 <url>
Let's try to download Flash.....
Success.Glad you reminded me....Code: Select all
# wget -4 http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/11.1.102.63/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz --2012-03-31 03:01:37-- http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/11.1.102.63/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz Resolving fpdownload.macromedia.com (fpdownload.macromedia.com)... 184.87.2.70 Connecting to fpdownload.macromedia.com (fpdownload.macromedia.com)|184.87.2.70|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 6746733 (6.4M) [application/x-gzip] Saving to: `install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz' 100%[======================================>] 6,746,733 159K/s in 42s 2012-03-31 03:02:18 (158 KB/s) - `install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz' saved [6746733/6746733] #
The -4 forces wget to use ipv4 instead of the default of ipv6 (in recent versions of wget).
So the only remaining problem is with 'ping'. Earlier on I looked at the ping man page here:
http://linux.die.net/man/8/ping
...which does not even mention ipv4 or ipv6.
However, I have just down another search, and found an example that uses -4 with ping:
# ping -4 www.google.com
...please try this!
...in fact, if it solves the problem I will put that option into the script permanently.
...if anyone tries this and it doesn't work for you, let me know that too.
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# ping -4 www.google.com
PING www.google.com (74.125.130.105): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=0 ttl=47 time=54.372 ms
64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=1 ttl=47 time=54.576 ms
64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=2 ttl=47 time=53.047 ms
64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=3 ttl=47 time=54.248 ms
64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=4 ttl=47 time=53.920 ms
64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=5 ttl=47 time=54.361 ms
64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=6 ttl=47 time=54.549 ms
64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=7 ttl=47 time=53.557 ms
64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=8 ttl=47 time=54.242 ms
64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=9 ttl=47 time=53.940 ms
64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=10 ttl=47 time=54.443 ms
64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=11 ttl=47 time=54.399 ms
Good, a bug! Thanks, I fixed it.L18L wrote:Found a little thing, too
Another bug bites the dust!James C wrote:Success again.BarryK wrote:Good. /usr/sbin/delayedrun calls /usr/sbin/download_file to download the flash player, and this already has the '-4' parameter for wget.James C wrote: Been busy and forgot .......
Let's try to download Flash.....
Success.Glad you reminded me....Code: Select all
# wget -4 http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/11.1.102.63/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz --2012-03-31 03:01:37-- http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/11.1.102.63/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz Resolving fpdownload.macromedia.com (fpdownload.macromedia.com)... 184.87.2.70 Connecting to fpdownload.macromedia.com (fpdownload.macromedia.com)|184.87.2.70|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 6746733 (6.4M) [application/x-gzip] Saving to: `install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz' 100%[======================================>] 6,746,733 159K/s in 42s 2012-03-31 03:02:18 (158 KB/s) - `install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz' saved [6746733/6746733] #
The -4 forces wget to use ipv4 instead of the default of ipv6 (in recent versions of wget).
So the only remaining problem is with 'ping'. Earlier on I looked at the ping man page here:
http://linux.die.net/man/8/ping
...which does not even mention ipv4 or ipv6.
However, I have just down another search, and found an example that uses -4 with ping:
# ping -4 www.google.com
...please try this!
...in fact, if it solves the problem I will put that option into the script permanently.
...if anyone tries this and it doesn't work for you, let me know that too.
Some of the "other" distros use ipv6 by default in their browsers and it's necessary to disable it before I can even get online.Code: Select all
# ping -4 www.google.com PING www.google.com (74.125.130.105): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=0 ttl=47 time=54.372 ms 64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=1 ttl=47 time=54.576 ms 64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=2 ttl=47 time=53.047 ms 64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=3 ttl=47 time=54.248 ms 64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=4 ttl=47 time=53.920 ms 64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=5 ttl=47 time=54.361 ms 64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=6 ttl=47 time=54.549 ms 64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=7 ttl=47 time=53.557 ms 64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=8 ttl=47 time=54.242 ms 64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=9 ttl=47 time=53.940 ms 64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=10 ttl=47 time=54.443 ms 64 bytes from 74.125.130.105: seq=11 ttl=47 time=54.399 ms
Believe that solves my little problem. Thanks.
I like to confirm:BarryK wrote:I am not having any problem.L18L wrote:Yes, there is something wrong, I have been trying to reproduce this in a similiar way.LaRioja wrote:I have installed Racy 5.2.90 on my AMD LE 1250 box and chose German locale in the Quick Setup but I accidentally did not tick UTF-8 Encoding. I changed this later in Puppy-Setup, but it doesn't get permanent. So on every reboot I have to change to UTF-8 again.
Is there something wrong?
Thanks for a hint.
racy 5.2.90 pfix=ram
chosen LANG: de_DE (without utf8)
saved to a new save file called racysave-de_DE.2fs
then reboot
and chosen racysave-de_DE.2fs
# cat /proc/cmdline
video=640x480 root=/dev/sda3 ro vga=normal pdev1=sda3
#
# echo $LANG
de_DE.UTF-8
#
repeated chooselocale (de_DE) several times
My observation:
change to non-UTF-8 does not get permanent
I don´t think this is specific to German.
Other languages, please test: changing to/from utf-8
Hope this will help locating the bug
Running as a German user, I used quickcountry (symlink to quicksetup) to untick and tick the UTF-8 checkbox. There was no problem.
The problem may occur if you altered the initrd.gz the first time, to say de_DE-UTF-8, then that will be used at a reboot. QuickCountry/QuickSetup will offer to change the initrd.gz if you change the UTF-8 checkbox.
I suppose it is not good idea changing the initrd.gz unless remastering, because it is hard to see the changed status for usual users.BarryK wrote:The problem may occur if you altered the initrd.gz the first time, to say de_DE-UTF-8, then that will be used at a reboot. QuickCountry/QuickSetup will offer to change the initrd.gz if you change the UTF-8 checkbox.
Installed browser in 5.2.91 is 2.6.1.sszindian wrote: (3) Seamonkey browser remained at version 2.5 when it was changed back to that from 2.6 in a previous upgrade to 5-2-90??? I have no idea what the correct version should be for 5-2-91?
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xmessage "This could possibly be managed by something like this :BarryK wrote:
Another bug bites the dust!
"ping -4" doesn't seem to do any harm. Hopefully no one will report that it messes things up for them.
I have put the -4 option for ping into these scripts:
Pudd, check_internet, video_upgrade_wizard.
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usage(){
echo "
$0 [-p [4|6] |-h]
Simple xmessage based dialogs to perform the 'dd' command
to clone disks,partitions,save-files
to a file,partition or disk.
Options:
-p 4|6 ) When Using Pudd to clone from network shares pass
-4,-6 Force IP or IPv6 name resolution
option to 'ping' (default is 4).
"
exit $1
}
[ "$1" = '--help' ] && usage 0
IPV='-4' #IPversion set to default to 4
while getopts hp: opt;do
case $opt in
p) IPV=$OPTARG;
IPV='-'"$IPV";IPV=`echo "$IPV" | tr -s '-'`
[ "$IPV" != '-4' -o "$IPV" != '-6' ] && usage 1
;;
h)usage 0;;
*)usage 1;;
esac;done
while [ "$2" ];do shift;done #precaution for many scritps may use at least one '$1' somewhere further down :)
I have fixed the problem:L18L wrote:I like to confirm:BarryK wrote:I am not having any problem.L18L wrote: Yes, there is something wrong, I have been trying to reproduce this in a similiar way.
racy 5.2.90 pfix=ram
chosen LANG: de_DE (without utf8)
saved to a new save file called racysave-de_DE.2fs
then reboot
and chosen racysave-de_DE.2fs
# cat /proc/cmdline
video=640x480 root=/dev/sda3 ro vga=normal pdev1=sda3
#
# echo $LANG
de_DE.UTF-8
#
repeated chooselocale (de_DE) several times
My observation:
change to non-UTF-8 does not get permanent
I don´t think this is specific to German.
Other languages, please test: changing to/from utf-8
Hope this will help locating the bug
Running as a German user, I used quickcountry (symlink to quicksetup) to untick and tick the UTF-8 checkbox. There was no problem.
The problem may occur if you altered the initrd.gz the first time, to say de_DE-UTF-8, then that will be used at a reboot. QuickCountry/QuickSetup will offer to change the initrd.gz if you change the UTF-8 checkbox.
No problem if the offer to change initrd.gz is accepted !
Example: Change from de_AT to de_AT.utf8 only permanent if changed initrd.gz.
This leads to the idea:
I have decided wrong and LaRioja has decided wrong.
Why ask the user?
Always change it please without asking
edit:
I have run xorgwizard without utf8, our (shinobar´s) trick OUTPUT_CHARSET=UTF-8 did not work in console
this is leading to the next ( old ) idea:
make utf8 default without exceptions for non English
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xmessage "