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nooby
Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 9477 Location: SwedenEurope
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Posted: Sat 18 Feb 2012, 17:26 Post_subject:
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I tested with root and then just hit enter and it did not need any password
or used one that Iguleder has given it? Just work with root and enter.
Boots real fast.
title subito
find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /subito/initrd.gz
kernel /subito/vmlinuz vga=791
initrd /subito/initrd.gz
or iso boot. Place the iso in the subito directory. But my first choice
boot without having the iso on the partition. You only need to put
the files in the directory.
title subito
rootnoverify (hd0,1)
kernel /subito/vmlinuz boot=fll vga=791 fromiso=/subito/subito-0.9.0.iso
initrd /subito/initrd.gz
I don't know what the boot=fll refers to.
The build seems to lack ntfs-3g so how does one add that one or
if it is there how does one activate it?
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Jim1911
Joined: 19 May 2008 Posts: 2353 Location: Texas, USA
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Posted: Sat 18 Feb 2012, 17:55 Post_subject:
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Hi nooby,
That worked and like you said it's fast, however, the desktop is too confusing for me also and I'm unable to get on the internet too. I need to wait until it's evolved further, of course it may not ever get down to my level.
Thanks,
Jim
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nooby
Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 9477 Location: SwedenEurope
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Posted: Mon 20 Feb 2012, 07:15 Post_subject:
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| Jim1911 wrote: | Hi nooby,
... the desktop is too confusing for me also and I'm unable to get on the internet too. ...
Thanks,
Jim |
I don't want to take up Iguleder's time with my lack of knowledge
so if somebody else that know how to get the LAN or WAN going
and how one get used to the Window Manager being so different?
I also need to learn how to get the NTFS ntfs-3g going and how
one mount the sda1 or sad2 or whatever NTFS that I booted on.
How does one do a dd of the iso image over to a flash memory?
I prefer that Iguleder spen exciting time on the dev instead of
answering my naive questions. So what do you guys say?
Share your knowledge. here or maybe a new thread?
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Iguleder

Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 1631 Location: Israel, somewhere in the beautiful desert
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Posted: Mon 20 Feb 2012, 18:23 Post_subject:
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Regarding your internet connection - it varies between connection types. You'll have to use all the command-line tools that ship with the distro for this - just read how to get it workin'. It's extremely easy once you do it once.
Regarding ntfs-3g, just get a Slackware package or build one yourself, you don't need my help for this. C'mon, you're so much smarter than that.
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MinHundHettePerro

Joined: 05 Feb 2009 Posts: 833 Location: SE
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Posted: Tue 21 Feb 2012, 19:21 Post_subject:
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Hello, Iguleder !
Building 32-bit varieties of subito (yes, still a bit behind the bleeding edge, technology-wise) using roar-ng-003.
I must say, I really appreciate that once 3builddistro has been successfully run, it's possible to directly continue with 4buildpackage to build needed packages (had to use a few re-packaged .pet's for a 32-bit pre-build).
One thing about the builder, though;
when building e.g. xpad, using the provided build-script, the build-process trips at the sources download protocol being https (the wget-option --no-check-certificate fixes downloading manually).
Now, to my question;
would adding the wget-option --no-check-certificate to the download_file-function of skeleton/devx/package_tools/usr/sbin/buildpkg bork downloading with standard http?
Doesn't seem to, but I only checked with "--spider" as of yet, since I'm busy building ... (yet, again )
Thanks for a very good woof-contender build-tool (I'll still tweak it to build a semi-puppy/semi-subito thingy).
Cheers / MHHP
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gcmartin
Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 2690 Location: Earth
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Posted: Wed 22 Feb 2012, 16:42 Post_subject:
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@Iguleder. check PM
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Iguleder

Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 1631 Location: Israel, somewhere in the beautiful desert
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Posted: Thu 23 Feb 2012, 15:52 Post_subject:
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Already started on a new round of improvements to roar-ng. The biggest one is probably one of the new features - I want to implement "hybrid" installations by allowing the distro to use a partition instead of a save file.
This way, you get unlimited space (e.g the size limitation of save files is gone) and I/O is faster.
I also want to get Xfce working this weekend - it should be interesting to see how small it gets.
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nooby
Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 9477 Location: SwedenEurope
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Posted: Thu 23 Feb 2012, 16:24 Post_subject:
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| Iguleder wrote: | ...
I also want to get Xfce working this weekend - it should be interesting to see how small it gets.  |
I would love to be able to download a .iso with Xfce working when one boot.
I have read a lot of info on CWM now and it is way beyond my capacity.
Nowhere in the documentation and man pages does it explain how to use it
on a noob level. So xfce would be a blessing indeed.
Picture of a booted subito with CWM
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?mode=attach&id=51556
CWM Manual pages
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=cwm&sektion=1
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=cwmrc&sektion=5[/quote]
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Iguleder

Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 1631 Location: Israel, somewhere in the beautiful desert
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Posted: Thu 23 Feb 2012, 16:52 Post_subject:
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By the way - I forgot to mention - roar-ng distributions are multi-user. Just run "create_user" in the console
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Ray MK

Joined: 05 Feb 2008 Posts: 681 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri 24 Feb 2012, 01:46 Post_subject:
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Nooby said:
I would love to be able to download a .iso with Xfce working when one boot.
Would be nice.
Iguleder said:
By the way - I forgot to mention - roar-ng distributions are multi-user. Just run "create_user" in the console
This is very nice.
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Iguleder

Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 1631 Location: Israel, somewhere in the beautiful desert
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Posted: Fri 24 Feb 2012, 04:59 Post_subject:
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If you're trying to make a Xfce distro closer, here's my answer for you, Ray: you're always free to work on this.
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nooby
Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 9477 Location: SwedenEurope
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Posted: Fri 24 Feb 2012, 05:14 Post_subject:
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Yes I know it is very dangerous to comment on what a Dev has
already talked about. It takes away his or her inner motivation
to continue on that project.
My poor memory tells me that you have already planned to do this
I try to find the post.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=605323#605323
Iguleder writes: EDIT 2: I've started working on build scripts for Xfce.
I want to see if it's possible to build a "desktop" flavor of Subito with Xfce,
some major web browser (e.g Firefox) and assorted lightweight GTK
applications (e.g Geany, mhWaveEdit, mtPaint, DeaDBeeF, GNOME-
MPlayer, etc') based on the normal one.
Nooby comment. Had we not comment on it then it would have been realized
but due to my too eager wish it is too late. I am so sad! It is my bad!
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MinHundHettePerro

Joined: 05 Feb 2009 Posts: 833 Location: SE
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Posted: Fri 24 Feb 2012, 12:46 Post_subject:
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Slowly getting the hang of it, see attached screenie of sbto32 - basically a 32-bit replica of Subito-0.9.0.
The more I play around with it, the more I see how well thought-out the selection of included applications is.
Thanks / MHHP
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Iguleder

Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 1631 Location: Israel, somewhere in the beautiful desert
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Posted: Fri 24 Feb 2012, 13:15 Post_subject:
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I'm currently working on a new set of improvements:
- /etc/rc.d/rc.update is now faster; it skips the creation of cache if it exists already, reducing the already quick boot times. It's the slowest part of the init script; now it should take a few seconds on the first run and that's it.
- buildpkg now plays nicely with build scripts in the current directory; previously, you had to put "./" before the script path - not anymore.
- New desktop background
- Some code cleanup
- Some updates - the repository is mostly frozen, but I updated Vifm and tomorrow I'm going to update the kernel. All the "snapshot" packages (e.g libav, mplayer2 and Vim) will stay at these versions some time, since they're stable and work extremely well.
- NetworkManager - I'm trying to see if it's possible to get it working under Subito.
EDIT: got NetworkManager running, but nm-applet has GNOME dependencies. Forget it
EDIT 2: uploaded the new kernel, which is upgraded from 3.0.21 to 3.0.22.
EDIT 3: started working on a thorough manual. I attached what I've got so far.
EDIT 4: re-uploaded the manual. It's quite useful now.
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MinHundHettePerro

Joined: 05 Feb 2009 Posts: 833 Location: SE
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Posted: Sat 25 Feb 2012, 18:06 Post_subject:
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Hello !
Just a tip for all ye roar-ng:ers out there; I found the following change to /etc/profile making it easy to set one's own LANG- and LC_*-variables in /etc/profile.local | Code: | [root@sbto32-9e0e roar-ng-003_2]# cat etc_profile.diff
--- sandbox3/rootfs-complete/etc/profile2012-02-17 21:22:59.000000000 +0000
+++ /etc/profile2012-02-25 20:11:00.000000000 +0000
@@ -27,7 +27,7 @@
source $i
done
-[ -e /etc/profile.local ] && source /etc/profile.local
+#[ -e /etc/profile.local ] && source /etc/profile.local # MHHP
#######################
# important variables #
@@ -43,6 +43,9 @@
LANG="C"
LC_COLLATE="C"
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+[ -e /etc/profile.local ] && source /etc/profile.local # MHHP
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###############################
# freedesktop.org directories #
###############################
| (Perhaps LANG & LC_*-vars are better set elsewhere, just tinkerin' away ...)
Cheers / MHHP
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