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Amgine


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PostPosted: Wed 01 Feb 2012, 20:26    Post subject:  Xorg Configuration Keeps Changing After Restart
Subject description: Lucid Puppy 5.2.8
 

Puppy 5.2.8

I am trying to use Puppy on a another computer I just setup. I am running it off of a USB, (The same USB I use on my other computers) This computer is much better then the other two. (More RAM better graphic card)

Each time I restart, it will revert back to 16 bit color, I will rerun the Xorg wizard and set everything back to my settings 1440x900x24 Works and looks great, I restart and it is back to the wrong settings.

When its at 16bit the computer screen will be dime with a green tint....

Ideas?

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PostPosted: Thu 02 Feb 2012, 08:48    Post subject:  

Assuming you have a frugal install on the USB.

Do you have a pupsave file?

That should hold the settings.

One problem is that moving from computer to computer may require different settings. To solve this create different pupsave files (you are asked if you want to modify the name on creation). When Puppy finds different pupsave files on boot up it will ask you to select which one you want to use. Choose the one for the computer you are using.
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PostPosted: Thu 02 Feb 2012, 12:37    Post subject:  

ICPUG wrote:
Assuming you have a frugal install on the USB.

Do you have a pupsave file?

That should hold the settings.

One problem is that moving from computer to computer may require different settings. To solve this create different pupsave files (you are asked if you want to modify the name on creation). When Puppy finds different pupsave files on boot up it will ask you to select which one you want to use. Choose the one for the computer you are using.


No it is not frugal, at least I don't think so, I would like to keep my save file. That is why I am using puppy so I can keep my saves and settings on any computer I plug into...
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PostPosted: Thu 02 Feb 2012, 13:37    Post subject:  

Is the save file, lupu_528.sfs???
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PostPosted: Thu 02 Feb 2012, 14:44    Post subject:  

THATs the files list of a frugal installation using Grub4Dos bootloader on an Ext3 formatted partition of 2GB size on a 4GB USB pen drive i installed today :

/mnt/sdc1/lost+found
/mnt/sdc1/devx_431.sfs
/mnt/sdc1/grldr
/mnt/sdc1/grub4dosconfig.log
/mnt/sdc1/initrd.gz
/mnt/sdc1/menu.lst
/mnt/sdc1/pup-431.sfs <-MAIN PUPPYdotSFS
/mnt/sdc1/pupsave-2012_02_02.2fs <- SAVE_FILE
/mnt/sdc1/sdb_mbr.bak
/mnt/sdc1/vmlinuz

It is a Puppy 4.3.1 but it should be similar for later puppies .

Note the difference between .SFS and .2FS

SFS is squash filesystem (requiring the squashfs kernel module)
2FS is the ext2 formatted puppy save file .
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Amgine


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PostPosted: Thu 02 Feb 2012, 16:06    Post subject:  

Karl Godt wrote:
THATs the files list of a frugal installation using Grub4Dos bootloader on an Ext3 formatted partition of 2GB size on a 4GB USB pen drive i installed today :

/mnt/sdc1/lost+found
/mnt/sdc1/devx_431.sfs
/mnt/sdc1/grldr
/mnt/sdc1/grub4dosconfig.log
/mnt/sdc1/initrd.gz
/mnt/sdc1/menu.lst
/mnt/sdc1/pup-431.sfs <-MAIN PUPPYdotSFS
/mnt/sdc1/pupsave-2012_02_02.2fs <- SAVE_FILE
/mnt/sdc1/sdb_mbr.bak
/mnt/sdc1/vmlinuz

It is a Puppy 4.3.1 but it should be similar for later puppies .

Note the difference between .SFS and .2FS

SFS is squash filesystem (requiring the squashfs kernel module)
2FS is the ext2 formatted puppy save file .


I still can't find the save file, I looked in /root/mnt and did not see it.

So an ideas on how to fix my xorg problem, I don't use frugal or grub, I don't use nor need that blasted Windozs junk lol.

No need to dual boot for me, I can pull stuff off my hard drive with out it. I just want it to work.

BTW my USB is formatted to ext3..

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PostPosted: Thu 02 Feb 2012, 22:35    Post subject:  

Bump

xorg problem Question
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PostPosted: Fri 03 Feb 2012, 07:56    Post subject:  

I think it's a Woof problem- see my post, topic number 75650 in this forum.
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PostPosted: Fri 03 Feb 2012, 09:25    Post subject:  

A full install doesn't have a save file. The file system is continuously updated. This is a bit unusual for a usb flash disk due to the no. of writes problem.

An idea - what happens if you make the resolution changes and then make xorg.conf read only? Shouldn't be able to overwrite now, should it?
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PostPosted: Fri 03 Feb 2012, 13:58    Post subject:  

That does not work- it gets changed back to what it was. I suspect that it gets deleted and re-created.
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PostPosted: Fri 03 Feb 2012, 15:09    Post subject:  

ICPUG wrote:
A full install doesn't have a save file. The file system is continuously updated. This is a bit unusual for a usb flash disk due to the no. of writes problem.


Thank you! I will put that aside and try to save a new one. So I assume its the lupu_528.sfs

ICPUG wrote:
An idea - what happens if you make the resolution changes and then make xorg.conf read only? Shouldn't be able to overwrite now, should it?


But wouldn't that mean that I could not use the USB on my another computer, since its holding a different computers resolution profile?

Here is the info from the xorg.conf not sure if it tells you anything..

Code:

#Special base config file used in Puppy Linux.

# **********************************************************************
# Module section -- this  section  is used to specify
# which dynamically loadable modules to load.
# **********************************************************************
#
Section "Module"

# This loads the DBE extension module.

    Load        "dbe"     # Double buffer extension

# This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables
# initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module.
    SubSection  "extmod"
      Option    "omit xfree86-dga"   # don't initialise the DGA extension
    EndSubSection

# This loads the font modules
#    Load        "type1"
#    Load        "freetype"

# This loads xtrap extension, used by xrandr
#   Load       "xtrap"

# This loads the GLX module (if present). xorg 7.4/5 need explicit disable to disable...
    Load    "glx" #LOADGLX

# This loads dri module (if present). 7.4 loads it by default, have to disable...
   Load       "dri" #LOADDRI
#    Disable "dri"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Files section.  This allows default font paths to be set
# **********************************************************************

Section "Files"

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together),
# as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath
# command (or a combination of both methods)

    FontPath   "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc/"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/X11/fonts/Type1/"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/X11/fonts/TTF/"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Server flags section.
# **********************************************************************

Section "ServerFlags"

# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><Fn> VT switch sequence
# (where n is 1 through 12).  This allows clients to receive these key
# events.

#    Option "DontVTSwitch"

# Enables mode switching with xrandr
# There is a report that this can cause Xorg not to work on some
# video hardware, so default is commented-out...
# but i want to use it in xorgwizard so leave on...

    Option "RandR" "on"

# With this, Xorg won't talk to HAL to add evdev devices and you'll be back
# with the old Xorg behavior (pre-7.4)...

    Option "AutoAddDevices" "false"

# For no-Hal, kirk also suggests this...

#    Option "AllowMouseOpenFail" "true"

# Xorg 7.4, Ubuntu Jaunty, CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE is disabled by default...

    Option "DontZap" "false"

EndSection

#everything past here is auto-generated by Puppy's Xorg Wizard...


Section "ServerLayout"
   Identifier     "X.org Configured"
   Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
   InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
   InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier  "Keyboard0"
   Driver      "kbd"
   Option      "XkbRules" "xorg"
   Option      "XkbModel" "pc102"
   Option      "XkbLayout" "us" #xkeymap0
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier  "Mouse0"
   Driver      "mouse"
   Option       "Protocol" "IMPS/2" #mouse0protocol
   Option       "Device" "/dev/mouse"
   #Option      "Emulate3Buttons"
   #Option      "Emulate3Timeout" "50"
   Option      "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" #scrollwheel
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
   Identifier   "Monitor0"
   VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
   ModelName    "Monitor Model"
   HorizSync    31.5-100
   VertRefresh  59-75
   #UseModes     "Modes0" #monitor0usemodes
   Option      "PreferredMode" "1440x900"
   EndSection
   
Section "Modes"
   Identifier "Modes0"
   #modes0modeline0
EndSection

Section "Device"
   ### Available Driver options are:-
   ### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
   ### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
   ### [arg]: arg optional
   #Option     "NoAccel"               # [<bool>]
   #Option     "SWcursor"              # [<bool>]
   #Option     "Dac6Bit"               # [<bool>]
   #Option     "Dac8Bit"               # [<bool>]
   #Option     "BusType"               # [<str>]
   #Option     "CPPIOMode"             # [<bool>]
   #Option     "CPusecTimeout"         # <i>
   #Option     "AGPMode"               # <i>
   #Option     "AGPFastWrite"          # [<bool>]
   #Option     "AGPSize"               # <i>
   #Option     "GARTSize"              # <i>
   #Option     "RingSize"              # <i>
   #Option     "BufferSize"            # <i>
   #Option     "EnableDepthMoves"      # [<bool>]
   #Option     "EnablePageFlip"        # [<bool>]
   #Option     "NoBackBuffer"          # [<bool>]
   #Option     "DMAForXv"              # [<bool>]
   #Option     "FBTexPercent"          # <i>
   #Option     "DepthBits"             # <i>
   #Option     "PCIAPERSize"           # <i>
   #Option     "AccelDFS"              # [<bool>]
   #Option     "IgnoreEDID"            # [<bool>]
   #Option     "CustomEDID"            # [<str>]
   #Option     "DisplayPriority"       # [<str>]
   #Option     "PanelSize"             # [<str>]
   #Option     "ForceMinDotClock"      # <freq>
   #Option     "ColorTiling"           # [<bool>]
   #Option     "VideoKey"              # <i>
   #Option     "RageTheatreCrystal"    # <i>
   #Option     "RageTheatreTunerPort"    # <i>
   #Option     "RageTheatreCompositePort"    # <i>
   #Option     "RageTheatreSVideoPort"    # <i>
   #Option     "TunerType"             # <i>
   #Option     "RageTheatreMicrocPath"    # <str>
   #Option     "RageTheatreMicrocType"    # <str>
   #Option     "ScalerWidth"           # <i>
   #Option     "RenderAccel"           # [<bool>]
   #Option     "SubPixelOrder"         # [<str>]
   #Option     "ShowCache"             # [<bool>]
   #Option     "ClockGating"           # [<bool>]
   #Option     "VGAAccess"             # [<bool>]
   #Option     "ReverseDDC"            # [<bool>]
   #Option     "LVDSProbePLL"          # [<bool>]
   #Option     "AccelMethod"           # <str>
   #Option     "DRI"                   # [<bool>]
   #Option     "ConnectorTable"        # <str>
   #Option     "DefaultConnectorTable"    # [<bool>]
   #Option     "DefaultTMDSPLL"        # [<bool>]
   #Option     "TVDACLoadDetect"       # [<bool>]
   #Option     "ForceTVOut"            # [<bool>]
   #Option     "TVStandard"            # <str>
   #Option     "IgnoreLidStatus"       # [<bool>]
   #Option     "DefaultTVDACAdj"       # [<bool>]
   #Option     "Int10"                 # [<bool>]
   #Option     "EXAVSync"              # [<bool>]
   #Option     "ATOMTVOut"             # [<bool>]
   #Option     "R4xxATOM"              # [<bool>]
   #Option     "ForceLowPowerMode"     # [<bool>]
   #Option     "DynamicPM"             # [<bool>]
   #Option     "NewPLL"                # [<bool>]
   #Option     "ZaphodHeads"           # <str>
   Identifier  "Card0"
   Driver      "radeon" #card0driver
   VendorName  "ATI Technologies Inc"
   BoardName   "R580 [Radeon X1900]"
   BusID       "PCI:5:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
   Identifier "Screen0"
   Device     "Card0"
   Monitor    "Monitor0"
   DefaultDepth 24
   #Option         "metamodes" "1440x900_60 +0+0" #METAMODES_0
   Subsection "Display"
      Depth       24
      Modes       "1440x900"
   EndSubsection
EndSection

#PuppyHardwareProfile=ATI_ATOMBIOS



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PostPosted: Fri 03 Feb 2012, 15:40    Post subject:  

This problem occurs not only in 5.2.8, but also in 5.X.9, 5.3.1, and 5.2.2. Xorg.conf should be created only the first time the system is booted, and then modified by xorgwizard or
other means. It should not then be AGAIN created when the system is booted, this results in the customisations being lost.

I notice that the original poster is using the radeon driver: so am I. Does this problem only occur with that driver?
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PostPosted: Fri 03 Feb 2012, 15:53    Post subject:  

gerry wrote:
This problem occurs not only in 5.2.8, but also in 5.X.9, 5.3.1, and 5.2.2. Xorg.conf should be created only the first time the system is booted, and then modified by xorgwizard or
other means. It should not then be AGAIN created when the system is booted, this results in the customisations being lost.

I notice that the original poster is using the radeon driver: so am I. Does this problem only occur with that driver?


Yes it does, I installed the Xorg high driver to see if it would fix it, I just removed it and it still happens.

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PostPosted: Fri 03 Feb 2012, 15:55    Post subject:  

Quote:
#PuppyHardwareProfile=ATI_ATOMBIOS


Mine is
#PuppyHardwareProfile=Intel_r_Broadwater_G_Graphics_ChipAOCA790

which is for

profilechip=Intel_r_Broadwater_G_Graphics_Chip
profilemonitor=AOCA790

which can be obtained with the
bash-3.2#
Code:
 ddcprobe

command

Seems that the chips of your monitor dont contain any vendor information like some USB pendrives .
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PostPosted: Fri 03 Feb 2012, 16:15    Post subject:  

The save file should have a name like:
lupusave-XXXXX.2fs
lupusave.2fs
lupusave.3fs
lupusave-XXXXX.3fs

The (XXXXX) is an added name you gave to the save file when you made it.

What I think is going on. You have a save file made for use on a computer, that has a very different graphics card, from the one you are now trying to use it on.
When you boot, the settings are being defaulted to a basic setup, because that is the best guess that will work.

If you are using the usb flash drive on different computers. You need a separate save file for each.
Each computers specific settings in a specific save file.

To do this.
Boot Puppy.
At the boot screen hit F2 key.
Use boot option puppy pfix=ram.
this will boot like a fresh clean start with no save file.
Reboot
When asked to make save file, give it a name to identify what computer it is for.
After it boots again, now using the save file you just made, make the setting changes you need.
Now you have specific settings for this computer.

When the USB drive is used on a different computer, do the same procedure to make a specific save file for it.

When you boot Puppy, it will give you option screen to choose which save file to use.

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