Slacko 5.3.3-RC2 (5.3.2.4[0])
- MinHundHettePerro
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You, most certainly, did !!Keef wrote:Did I kill this thread?
Thanks, a lot, mate !
[color=green]Celeron 2.8 GHz, 1 GB, i82845, many ptns, modes 12, 13
Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz, 1 GB, nvidia quadro nvs 285[/color]
Slackos & 214X, ... and Q6xx
[color=darkred]Nämen, vaf....[/color] [color=green]ln -s /dev/null MHHP[/color]
Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz, 1 GB, nvidia quadro nvs 285[/color]
Slackos & 214X, ... and Q6xx
[color=darkred]Nämen, vaf....[/color] [color=green]ln -s /dev/null MHHP[/color]
Hi KeefKeef wrote:Did I kill this thread?
Oh well. If someone starts another thread about browser preferences, I promise to go and work my magic there.
SLACKO (and Puppy, too) are trying to aim at PCs build since 2006. The AMD/Intel PC specs called for PCs with 1GB of RAM even though some (very rare) were shipped with 512. Further, the P3 was NOT manufactured for vendor distribution, then.
Even though some of us have gotten SLACKO to run on P3 with much more RAM than you, you MAY want to try one of the following should you want to use SLACKO (or Puppy 528 for that matter):
- add RAM to your present configuration
- try SLACKO on a different PC that meets or exceeds the 2006 spec.
- Use Barry's WARY which is designed with your specific platform in mind
One item that I have always found beneficial in using any PUP distro is the use of a SWAP partition, physically present at boot-time. This has made all the difference in the world in some occasions for me. I am a Live media user, thus I ONLY have ever used PUPs via CD/DVDs; just as you say you're trying to use.
Hope this helps
I'm just giving feedback, not asking for changes. Maybe the feedback is useful, maybe not. I mainly use frugal installs, but tried a CD as I used it on another PC. The booting (more accurately, the time it took for the desktop to become functional) was exceptionally slow, but if it affects no-one else, it can be ignored.
Right, I'm off to complain about the browser in Saluki now...
Right, I'm off to complain about the browser in Saluki now...
I've been having a go with my two Realtek wlan usb dongles.
Story so far:
Both of them have Realtek chipsets. One uses the rtl8192se module and the other uses the rtl8192cu module.
Slacko 5.3.2.1 recognised neither of them until I copied over firmware that I had compiled under Debian Squeeze 64 bit. The source code is the stuff at the Linux Wireless website (latest bleeding edge COMPAT collection). This then enabled the wlan0 interface but would not connect - not really surprising being compiled under a 64 bit version. Looks like a firmware blob issue.
I then tried to compile this source code driver collection in Slacko 5.3.2.1 using the main devx. No joy. Got a make warning to compile the kernel with option CONFIG_LIBIPW=m
Would be nice to be able to compile this within Slacko. This stuff compiles no problem in Debian Squeeze and thereby allows good WLAN connections.
Any chance of enabling this in the Slacko kernels?
Has anyone perhaps already successfully compiled these for Puppy?
I also have recently acquired an AirLive WN-370USB WLAN usb stick. I bought it under the misapprehension that it had a Ralink Chipset but it turns out that it has a Realtek one instead. Got no joy at all with this even with compiling from source in Debian Squeeze.
Then tried NDISWRAPPER in Squeeze using the Windows XP driver. Again nothing. Then tried it in Slacko 5.3.1 stable with NDISWRAPPER. This succeeded in finding the wlan0 interface but would not connect. Again looks like a firmware issue. It's a hard life in Linux with WLAN issues.
Story so far:
Both of them have Realtek chipsets. One uses the rtl8192se module and the other uses the rtl8192cu module.
Slacko 5.3.2.1 recognised neither of them until I copied over firmware that I had compiled under Debian Squeeze 64 bit. The source code is the stuff at the Linux Wireless website (latest bleeding edge COMPAT collection). This then enabled the wlan0 interface but would not connect - not really surprising being compiled under a 64 bit version. Looks like a firmware blob issue.
I then tried to compile this source code driver collection in Slacko 5.3.2.1 using the main devx. No joy. Got a make warning to compile the kernel with option CONFIG_LIBIPW=m
Would be nice to be able to compile this within Slacko. This stuff compiles no problem in Debian Squeeze and thereby allows good WLAN connections.
Any chance of enabling this in the Slacko kernels?
Has anyone perhaps already successfully compiled these for Puppy?
I also have recently acquired an AirLive WN-370USB WLAN usb stick. I bought it under the misapprehension that it had a Ralink Chipset but it turns out that it has a Realtek one instead. Got no joy at all with this even with compiling from source in Debian Squeeze.
Then tried NDISWRAPPER in Squeeze using the Windows XP driver. Again nothing. Then tried it in Slacko 5.3.1 stable with NDISWRAPPER. This succeeded in finding the wlan0 interface but would not connect. Again looks like a firmware issue. It's a hard life in Linux with WLAN issues.
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- Iguleder
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Great news - 01micko. I'm currently running a x86_64 build of my Slacko-compatible distro, built with my improved Woof implementation, which has full slackware64 support.
It was built using Slackware 13.37 x86_64 packages and the only PET packages needed to boot it are Busybox and a kernel, so I built initial packages of both using a Slacko x86_64 chroot environment, through Fatdog. Both were built automatically, of course
Once I had something bootable (using both packages), I rebuilt these core packages and added the window manager, applications, etc' - now I'm running the result, a perfect x86_64 port in two clicks
This build uses the latest long-term kernel tree (3.0). I'm currently upgrading the it to the latest stable release (3.0.19, from 3.0.18). I omitted printk() support by mistake and my screen becomes blank once KMS is enabled, so I'm also trying to work around these issues too.
When the new kernel is ready I'll start a mass re-compilation of Puppy's x86-only packages to x86_64, so a Slacko64 is finally possible. I'm confident that this two-clicks approach can be utilized to port Slacko to ARM, too.
EDIT: it works, here's a screeny of the first 64-bit Slackware-based Puppy-like thingy.
It was built using Slackware 13.37 x86_64 packages and the only PET packages needed to boot it are Busybox and a kernel, so I built initial packages of both using a Slacko x86_64 chroot environment, through Fatdog. Both were built automatically, of course
Once I had something bootable (using both packages), I rebuilt these core packages and added the window manager, applications, etc' - now I'm running the result, a perfect x86_64 port in two clicks
This build uses the latest long-term kernel tree (3.0). I'm currently upgrading the it to the latest stable release (3.0.19, from 3.0.18). I omitted printk() support by mistake and my screen becomes blank once KMS is enabled, so I'm also trying to work around these issues too.
When the new kernel is ready I'll start a mass re-compilation of Puppy's x86-only packages to x86_64, so a Slacko64 is finally possible. I'm confident that this two-clicks approach can be utilized to port Slacko to ARM, too.
EDIT: it works, here's a screeny of the first 64-bit Slackware-based Puppy-like thingy.
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Keef.. thanks for your report otherwise I wouldn't know that ndiswrapper was missing, it was supposed to be there ..BTW, I'm not dead just busy
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tronkel.. it seems many of the open firmware projects are very experimental. We've had enough drama with broadcom firmware (which by the way is not supposed to be distributed), now ralink, . I will definitely need to get a decent package together for firmware-cutter, no matter how hard I try I'll miss some firmware, especially since 3 series kernels have shifted the goal posts.
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Iguleder. The 64bit project sounds very encouraging. Have you published your build system? If not, can you?
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tronkel.. it seems many of the open firmware projects are very experimental. We've had enough drama with broadcom firmware (which by the way is not supposed to be distributed), now ralink, . I will definitely need to get a decent package together for firmware-cutter, no matter how hard I try I'll miss some firmware, especially since 3 series kernels have shifted the goal posts.
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Iguleder. The 64bit project sounds very encouraging. Have you published your build system? If not, can you?
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- Iguleder
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Here's the build system, in all its glory.
I'm currently working on a full rebuild of the package repository - once it's ready, I'll upload all the packages.
The packages (and all the sources) will be available here.
EDIT: all packages are up. There is a possibility that the 64-bit kernel can be used with Slacko too, if the Puppy init script does not attempt to load Aufs and Squashfs (which are built into the kernel, in this one).
I'm currently working on a full rebuild of the package repository - once it's ready, I'll upload all the packages.
The packages (and all the sources) will be available here.
EDIT: all packages are up. There is a possibility that the 64-bit kernel can be used with Slacko too, if the Puppy init script does not attempt to load Aufs and Squashfs (which are built into the kernel, in this one).
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Slacko (slacko-5.3.3-beta MAIN version)
System Info
Fresh frugal install (on NTFS partition)
AMD Athlon64 @2400 MHz, 1Gb RAM
GeForce 6600 @1900x1200
Video
Booted straight to desktop with nouveu drivers. Then did following:
1. Ran nouveau_unload and rebooted (after creating 1Gb .3fs save file).
2. Downloaded and SFS-mounted:
a. devx_slacko_5.3.2.1.sfs and
b. kernel_sources-3.1.10-patched_slacko.sfs.
3. Downloaded NVIDIA-Linux-x86-290.10.run from NVIDIA and ran "sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-290.10.run" after exiting X.
4. Ran Startx and could ascertain that the NVIDIA driver was in use.
Network / Wireless
TP-Link TL-WN821Nv3 USB dongle detected and working automatically (thanks to the Atheros in-kernel ath9k_htc driver) and included firmware.
Getting blazingly fast speeds - approaching 100 Mbit/s from e.g. Smokey01's server (over wireless)!
Audio
Sound is working well in DeaDBeef-0.51.
GNOME Mplayer works ok, though sound quality better in DB.
Software
Installed Firefox 9.01 - works, though I immediately updated to 10.0 which appears to be stable in Puppy (unlike 9, and judging from about one week of usage) and snappier.
My thanks to all involved and, of course, especially 01micko.
Looking forward to the final release!
System Info
Fresh frugal install (on NTFS partition)
AMD Athlon64 @2400 MHz, 1Gb RAM
GeForce 6600 @1900x1200
Video
Booted straight to desktop with nouveu drivers. Then did following:
1. Ran nouveau_unload and rebooted (after creating 1Gb .3fs save file).
2. Downloaded and SFS-mounted:
a. devx_slacko_5.3.2.1.sfs and
b. kernel_sources-3.1.10-patched_slacko.sfs.
3. Downloaded NVIDIA-Linux-x86-290.10.run from NVIDIA and ran "sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-290.10.run" after exiting X.
4. Ran Startx and could ascertain that the NVIDIA driver was in use.
Network / Wireless
TP-Link TL-WN821Nv3 USB dongle detected and working automatically (thanks to the Atheros in-kernel ath9k_htc driver) and included firmware.
Getting blazingly fast speeds - approaching 100 Mbit/s from e.g. Smokey01's server (over wireless)!
Audio
Sound is working well in DeaDBeef-0.51.
GNOME Mplayer works ok, though sound quality better in DB.
Software
Installed Firefox 9.01 - works, though I immediately updated to 10.0 which appears to be stable in Puppy (unlike 9, and judging from about one week of usage) and snappier.
My thanks to all involved and, of course, especially 01micko.
Looking forward to the final release!
Finally a Slacko that works properly with Netgear WN111v2!
Testing 5.3.2.1 on Merlin, the Pentium D machine, is progressing very well! The serious problems I was having on 5.3 and 5.3.1 with my Netgear WN111v2 wireless dongle seem to have gone and internet performance is very good, seemingly on a par with Lupu 528.
Currently using a LiveCD with the pupsave on a USB stick as the computer's hard drive has developed a wierd fault that's preventing XP from booting (Puppy isn't the cause of that).
Currently using a LiveCD with the pupsave on a USB stick as the computer's hard drive has developed a wierd fault that's preventing XP from booting (Puppy isn't the cause of that).
Zhaan - AMD K6 2 500, 512MB RAM, ATI Rage 128 VR. Full install Wary 5.5 [url=http://tinyurl.com/dy66kh8]HardInfo Report[/url]
Merlin - Core i5-4590, 8GB RAM, Radeon R9 270X. Slacko 5.7.0
Merlin - Core i5-4590, 8GB RAM, Radeon R9 270X. Slacko 5.7.0
Slacko 5.3.3-beta ..testing (5.3.2.1)
I did a full install of slacko-5.3.2.10-SCSI.iso
Sun 5 Feb 2012 Operating System: Slacko Puppy-5.3.2.10 Linux 3.1.10-slacko_pae
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT216[GeForceGT 220](rev a2)
oem: NVIDIA product: GT216 Board - 0682vb12 Chip Rev
X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.9.5
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (411x263 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GT 220/PCI/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 275.43
# glxgears
30994 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6198.694 FPS
31049 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6209.686 FPS
30995 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6198.877 FPS
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4500
Core 0: 1200 1: 1200 MHz
Computer
Processor 2x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4500 @ 2.20GHz
Memory 4101MB (271MB used)
It's working great.
Sun 5 Feb 2012 Operating System: Slacko Puppy-5.3.2.10 Linux 3.1.10-slacko_pae
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT216[GeForceGT 220](rev a2)
oem: NVIDIA product: GT216 Board - 0682vb12 Chip Rev
X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.9.5
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (411x263 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GT 220/PCI/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 275.43
# glxgears
30994 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6198.694 FPS
31049 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6209.686 FPS
30995 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6198.877 FPS
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4500
Core 0: 1200 1: 1200 MHz
Computer
Processor 2x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4500 @ 2.20GHz
Memory 4101MB (271MB used)
It's working great.
Congratulations 01micko
slacko-5.3.2.10-SCSI.iso PAE is the only Puppy other than fatdog64 to run properly on this machine with both video and sound!
Frugal install.
Booted direct to desktop with no problem. Created a save file and loaded the devx and kernel sources.
Installed the catalyst driver with the proprietary ati-driver-installer-11-9-x86.x86_64.run.
Sun 5 Feb 2012 Operating System: Slacko Puppy-5.3.2.10 Linux 3.1.10-slacko_pae
1.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 9640
oem: AMD ATOMBIOS product: SUMO 01.00
X Server: Xorg Driver: fglrx
X.Org version: 1.9.5
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (507x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
AMD A8-3850 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
Core 0: 2900 1: 2900 2: 2900 3: 2900 MHz
# fgl_glxgears
Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer
10035 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2007.000 FPS
11213 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2242.600 FPS
11258 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2251.600 FPS
11226 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2245.200 FPS
11245 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2249.000 FPS
-Memory-
Total Memory : 7715984 kB
Very nice!
The only thing so far is retrovol says my sound is set at 65295% and will not adjust it, but it says that on every Puppy that uses retrovol. Sound is set with alsamixer.
slacko-5.3.2.10-SCSI.iso PAE is the only Puppy other than fatdog64 to run properly on this machine with both video and sound!
Frugal install.
Booted direct to desktop with no problem. Created a save file and loaded the devx and kernel sources.
Installed the catalyst driver with the proprietary ati-driver-installer-11-9-x86.x86_64.run.
Sun 5 Feb 2012 Operating System: Slacko Puppy-5.3.2.10 Linux 3.1.10-slacko_pae
1.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 9640
oem: AMD ATOMBIOS product: SUMO 01.00
X Server: Xorg Driver: fglrx
X.Org version: 1.9.5
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (507x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
AMD A8-3850 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
Core 0: 2900 1: 2900 2: 2900 3: 2900 MHz
# fgl_glxgears
Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer
10035 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2007.000 FPS
11213 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2242.600 FPS
11258 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2251.600 FPS
11226 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2245.200 FPS
11245 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2249.000 FPS
-Memory-
Total Memory : 7715984 kB
Very nice!
The only thing so far is retrovol says my sound is set at 65295% and will not adjust it, but it says that on every Puppy that uses retrovol. Sound is set with alsamixer.

01micko - I've been trying 5.3.2.1 today on the HP mini and the info didn't help me this time!01micko wrote:grump, thanks for info.. that should help alot of b43 users ....
I copied the b43 firmware in as I described about 20 pages back, but now get the same message about not being able to raise the wireless. I'd like to submit the logs as before but the instructions have disappeared from the 1st post.
Just an aside - not sure I like the minimalist menus - it was nice to see the full menus when looking for an option.
Some time later - edit to add that 5.3.2.1 is working fine on my old Toshiba A200.
Recently Slacko 5.3.2.1 (regular flavor not PAE) has been booting into a black screen with no icons. The JWM tool bar and the cursor are present, programs can be opened from the menu and everything seems to work properly - except no wallpaper and no icons.
Restarting X solves the problem loading the wallpaper and icons. I say "recently" because I have been using this release for sometime now and the problem only appeared yesterday.
VIDEO REPORT: Slacko Puppy, version 5.3.2.1
Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: NV34 Board - p162-2nz Chip Rev
Driver used by Xorg:
nvidia
Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: " 1280x1024 " Depth: Depth 24
Processor:
AMD Athlon XP/MP (Barton) 2GHz
Restarting X solves the problem loading the wallpaper and icons. I say "recently" because I have been using this release for sometime now and the problem only appeared yesterday.
VIDEO REPORT: Slacko Puppy, version 5.3.2.1
Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: NV34 Board - p162-2nz Chip Rev
Driver used by Xorg:
nvidia
Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: " 1280x1024 " Depth: Depth 24
Processor:
AMD Athlon XP/MP (Barton) 2GHz
drblock2
I did see that behaviour on my laptop which is a centrino 1.7GHz, 512 RAM, radeon mobility graphics in alpha 4 or 5 (with 3.2 kernel) but this kernel has been ok for me. It seems like a timing issue with rox-desktop failing to start. I'll look into it.
Thanks for report
I did see that behaviour on my laptop which is a centrino 1.7GHz, 512 RAM, radeon mobility graphics in alpha 4 or 5 (with 3.2 kernel) but this kernel has been ok for me. It seems like a timing issue with rox-desktop failing to start. I'll look into it.
Thanks for report
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5.3.2.1 doesn't work on K6-2 500
For a bit of daft, I decided to give 5.3.2.1 a shot on the K6-2 500 machine, booting from the CD. Perhaps unsurprisingly it failed to boot, with the following message:-
That's presumably due to the processor in question being i586 generation.
Not a problem, Wary is really the most appropriate in-development Puppy for that machine, but just thought I'd mention it. Full install of Slacko 5.3.1 seems to work without major issues after I installed a 486-compatible ffmpeg.
On the Pentium D machine, the Netgear WN111v2 wireless dongle is still working well on 5.3.2.1, so it would seem the problem I had with it on 5.3 and 5.3.1 was something to do with the kernel or drivers.
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This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU:
cmov
Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU.
Not a problem, Wary is really the most appropriate in-development Puppy for that machine, but just thought I'd mention it. Full install of Slacko 5.3.1 seems to work without major issues after I installed a 486-compatible ffmpeg.
On the Pentium D machine, the Netgear WN111v2 wireless dongle is still working well on 5.3.2.1, so it would seem the problem I had with it on 5.3 and 5.3.1 was something to do with the kernel or drivers.
Zhaan - AMD K6 2 500, 512MB RAM, ATI Rage 128 VR. Full install Wary 5.5 [url=http://tinyurl.com/dy66kh8]HardInfo Report[/url]
Merlin - Core i5-4590, 8GB RAM, Radeon R9 270X. Slacko 5.7.0
Merlin - Core i5-4590, 8GB RAM, Radeon R9 270X. Slacko 5.7.0
I'm happily running the Netgear WN111 v2 in Slacko 5.31 right now on a Satellite A15 laptop.
Slacko won't work at all with the Tenda W311U (based on the RT2870). In Lucid, the RT2870sta module works just fine with that stick, but to this point it has been a complete no-go with Slacko. Trying to load the Windows driver (2870.inf) with the NDIS wrapper causes 5.3.1 to crash completely.
I'm just now discovering this thread, so I'll have to download the new beta, give it a whirl, and see if that one has any better luck with the W311U.
Slacko won't work at all with the Tenda W311U (based on the RT2870). In Lucid, the RT2870sta module works just fine with that stick, but to this point it has been a complete no-go with Slacko. Trying to load the Windows driver (2870.inf) with the NDIS wrapper causes 5.3.1 to crash completely.
I'm just now discovering this thread, so I'll have to download the new beta, give it a whirl, and see if that one has any better luck with the W311U.
Slacko 5.3.3-beta ..testing (5.3.2.1)
I made a pet of Namoroka 3.6.26, it was just released on Feb 1 2012.
I find it works well in this slacko beta, it's approx 11mb in size.
The download link is:
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-edecb804.html
I find it works well in this slacko beta, it's approx 11mb in size.
The download link is:
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-edecb804.html