Slacko 5.3.3-RC2 (5.3.2.4[0])

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pemasu · #321 Post by **pemasu** » Sun 29 Jan 2012, 13:52

Since aufs and kernel 3.X with usb pet installation has been problematic from the beginning...I have used Shinobar`s petget package. Shinobar has addressed those problems. Barry K changed to use unionfs for that reason, or that was one of the reasons. Now I have petget-20120108.pet which has been updated so that it is uptodate with recent woof commits.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 364#494364

I did live cd booting and created the savefile to usb stick with my parallel Exprimo build. Booting up again with that savefile in use, the pet installations works as they should. Nothing hanging and PPM updates.
PPM shows dependencies and PPM package download and installation works. PPM also updates the installed package information ok.

It might cause embarrassment that I provide parallel information on this thread. If my observations are disturbing, please....just tell so...and I stop.

escucha · #322 Post by **escucha** » Sun 29 Jan 2012, 14:27

@drblock2
Have not enough linux knowledges, I am novice puppy listener.. you've hear-me

Tried the "nouveau_unload experiment" from console command xorgwizard, and it worked!!... at last the lovely menus and slacko is running for me. Windows move jerky, now I think a good nvidia driver pet is needed.

move today to test (5.3.2.1) same problem with nouveau

mavrothal · #323 Post by **mavrothal** » Sun 29 Jan 2012, 14:44

pemasu wrote:Since aufs and kernel 3.X with usb pet installation has been problematic from the beginning...I have used Shinobar`s petget package. Shinobar has addressed those problems. Barry K changed to use unionfs for that reason, or that was one of the reasons. Now I have petget-20120108.pet which has been updated so that it is uptodate with recent woof commits.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 364#494364

I can confirm that shinobar's petget-20120108.pet (after "manual" installation) solves the problem in Slacko 5.3.2.1

It might cause embarrassment that I provide parallel information on this thread. If my observations are disturbing, please....just tell so...and I stop.

I do not think there is anything embarrassing in that.
Does bring up an issue though. How woof is developed and how pupplet developers can upstream their fixes/patches...

pemasu · #324 Post by **pemasu** » Sun 29 Jan 2012, 15:51

Mavrothal. If you check woof2 timeline, you can see that there are references by whom the Barry`s fixes have been updated. There are numerous ppl who have been mentioned there. Mavrothal has been mentioned there also

http://bkhome.org/fossil/woof2.cgi/timeline
I believe you have to anonymous login before you see the references or then not. I always login before I start to check the commits.

About aufs. I think that since Barry has chosen unionfs for 3.X...we are the outlaws now

I tried unionfs with 3.1.0 kernel and I didnt like the outcome. I choosed aufs instead.

mavrothal · #325 Post by **mavrothal** » Sun 29 Jan 2012, 16:10

pemasu wrote:Mavrothal. If you check woof2 timeline, you can see that there are references by whom the Barry`s fixes have been updated.

pemasu wrote:I think that since Barry has chosen unionfs for 3.X...we are the outlaws now

pemasu · #326 Post by **pemasu** » Sun 29 Jan 2012, 16:24

Does that broadcom_firmware-5.10.143.3.pet cover other usual b43 chips also. There seems to be 54 firmwares included.

DaveS · #327 Post by **DaveS** » Sun 29 Jan 2012, 16:46

01micko wrote:Dave S
Yep.. xcompmgr, jwm issue, but the improvements in jwm outweigh that bug, I informed Joe a few weeks ago. I will direct him to your post because he reckons it was a driver issue but I get it on radeon, nvidia and intel. Definitely jwm.

Ok, its only eye candy

tubeguy · #328 Post by **tubeguy** » Sun 29 Jan 2012, 16:56

Trying to find libavformat.so.52 and libavcodec.so.52 for Aqualung, no luck with PPM, google, slackpack, slackbuilds, pkgs.org or slacky.eu. Tried symlinking the .53 versions but got

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# aqualung
aqualung: /usr/lib/libavformat.so.52: version `LIBAVFORMAT_52' not found (required by aqualung)
aqualung: /usr/lib/libavcodec.so.52: version `LIBAVCODEC_52' not found (required by aqualung)

Any help?

Thanks

peebee · #329 Post by **peebee** » Sun 29 Jan 2012, 17:05

pemasu wrote:Does that broadcom_firmware-5.10.143.3.pet cover other usual b43 chips also. There seems to be 54 firmwares included.

Certainly works OK for my V13 firmware - its the same older version that's been in puppy for many a long time:

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b43-phy0: Loading firmware version 410.2160 (2007-05-26 15:32:10)

To test I booted pfix=ram, renamed firmware/b43 to old-b43, loaded the pet, rebooted creating a savefile.

Cheers
peebee

mavrothal · #330 Post by **mavrothal** » Sun 29 Jan 2012, 17:39

pemasu wrote:Does that broadcom_firmware-5.10.143.3.pet cover other usual b43 chips also. There seems to be 54 firmwares included.

Yes. They are all generated from the Linux wireless (scroll down a bit) firmwares with the appropriate b43-fwcutter.
Also have 4.174.64.19 though is too old I believe

Billtoo · #331 Post by **Billtoo** » Sun 29 Jan 2012, 18:03

I'm running from the live dvd with a save file (on my imac!!)

Sun 29 Jan 2012 Operating System: Slacko Puppy-5.3.2.10 Linux 3.1.10-slacko_pae
0.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon HD 2400 XT
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS product: M74 01.00

X Server: Xorg Driver: # vesa
X.Org version: 1.9.5
dimensions: 1680x1050 pixels (444x277 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R600 (RV610 94C8) 20090101 x86/MMX/SSE2 TCL
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 7.10.2

Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8135
Core 0: 800 1: 800 MHz

Processor 2x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8135 @ 2.40GHz
Memory 4082MB (144MB used)

# glxgears
IRQ's not enabled, falling back to busy waits: 2 0
7584 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1516.624 FPS
7615 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1522.951 FPS
7604 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1520.666 FPS

EDIT: I installed the proprietary driver.
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: ATI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2400 XT
OpenGL version string: 3.3.11399 Compatibility Profile Context
# glxgears
24830 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4965.818 FPS
25170 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5033.925 FPS
25273 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5054.533 FPS

I plugged in a logitech wireless keyboard and mouse, they are working
fine.
Network controller Broadcom Corporation BCM4321 802.11a/b/g/n
Ethernet controller Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8058 PCI-E Gigabit

I've never run puppy on a mac before, it's pretty amazing I think

EDIT: In my excitement and music playing on another pc I didn't notice that sound wasn't working so my imac will continue to be an imac until I find a solution, damn.

EDIT: I got sound working by adding "options snd-hda-intel model=imac24" no quotes to the end of the alsa-base.conf file which is located in /etc/modeprobe.d

Jim1911 · #332 Post by **Jim1911** » Sun 29 Jan 2012, 19:05

Hi Mick,

Manual frugal installation of PAE version on an ext4 partition on my Dell Laptop is working great. Fast, stable, and everything just works including a wifi connection to a HP Officejet. None of the problems that appeared in last 2 apha's. Thank you for providing a PAE version.

I hope that you are still planning on using shinobar's latest stable version pupsaveconfig-2.0.1.pet which works fine.

Will checkout desktop and post results later.

Cheers,
Jim

01micko · #333 Post by **01micko** » Sun 29 Jan 2012, 20:43

Indeed shinobar's petget update solves most of the problems but it creates one. You can't install nvidia drivers, it's weird, but here's the error message:

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# petget +/tmp/nvidia-290.10-k3.1.10-slacko_pae-s.pet
killall: yaf-splash: no process killed
FLAGNODIRECT=1
tar: usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/.wh.nouveau_drv.so: Cannot open: Operation not permitted
tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
killall: yaf-splash: no process killed
/usr/local/petget/i18n_head: line 40: 15296 Terminated              LANG=$LANG_USER gtkdialog-splash -close never -fontsize "large" -icon "gtk-info" --placement center -bg orange -text "$@"
EXIT="OK"

Why does tar try and open a whiteout?

Why is it trying to open anything in that directory?

Other pets, including mesa installed fine including mesa (on the macbook, CD boot/usb save)

jim3630 · #334 Post by **jim3630** » Sun 29 Jan 2012, 21:11

Shinobar has a new petget-20120122.pet in his repo but not announced here yet.
http://shino.pos.to/linux/puppy/

James C · #335 Post by **James C** » Sun 29 Jan 2012, 21:21

I don't recall much mention of full installs so....... test full install of 5.3.2.1 on yet another old P3. Started with a empty Dbanned hdd.
Gparted to make Ext3 partition and swap.....no problem. Puppy installer..... no problem. Good old reliable Legacy Grub...... no problem.No editing of menu.lst necessary,booting from default.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Slacko Puppy, version 5.3.2.1

Chip description:
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82810 GMCH (Graphics Memory Controller Hub) (rev 03)
00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82810 (CGC) Chipset Graphics Controller (rev 03)

Driver used by Xorg:

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: "" Depth: Depth 24

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video

Using the Intel driver.

-Computer-
Processor : Celeron (Coppermine)
Memory : 253MB (95MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sun 29 Jan 2012 04:07:53 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ICH - Intel 82801AA-ICH
VGA compatible controller : Intel Corporation 82810
Ethernet controller : ADMtek NC100 Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100

pemasu · #336 Post by **pemasu** » Sun 29 Jan 2012, 21:53

Sorry about that link to the older version of petget. The one jim3630 posted about is the on which has those latest fixes:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 394#598394

Jim1911 · #337 Post by **Jim1911** » Sun 29 Jan 2012, 22:08

01micko wrote:Indeed shinobar's petget update solves most of the problems but it creates one. You can't install nvidia drivers, it's weird, but here's the error message:
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# petget +/tmp/nvidia-290.10-k3.1.10-slacko_pae-s.pet
killall: yaf-splash: no process killed
FLAGNODIRECT=1
tar: usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/.wh.nouveau_drv.so: Cannot open: Operation not permitted
tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
killall: yaf-splash: no process killed
/usr/local/petget/i18n_head: line 40: 15296 Terminated              LANG=$LANG_USER gtkdialog-splash -close never -fontsize "large" -icon "gtk-info" --placement center -bg orange -text "$@"
EXIT="OK"
Why does tar try and open a whiteout? Why is it trying to open anything in that directory?

Other pets, including mesa installed fine including mesa (on the macbook, CD boot/usb save)

All of my problems installing Nvidia drivers have been associated with nouveau. I will be trying my desktop later which has Nvidia and report back. However, I have not tried shinobar's petget update, also, I still need to test your "nouveau_unload". Laptop is using mesa GLX driver installed with Slickpet.

Cheers,
Jim

James C · #338 Post by **James C** » Mon 30 Jan 2012, 05:28

Slacko 5.3.2.1 live pfix=ram on another old box. As expected,sound,internet and display all working and correct on initial boot.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Slacko Puppy, version 5.3.2.1

Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: MCP61 - mcp61-86 Chip Rev

Driver used by Xorg:
nouveau

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: "1440x900" Depth: Depth 24

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video

-Computer-
Processor : 2x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
Memory : 3374MB (158MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sun 29 Jan 2012 11:26:43 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
Audio device : nVidia Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio
Bridge : nVidia Corporation MCP61 Ethernet
VGA compatible controller : nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a]

-Version-
Kernel : Linux 3.1.10-slacko_4gx3 (i686)
Compiled : #1 SMP Sat Jan 28 08:22:17 EST 2012
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.13 (stable)
Default C Compiler : Unknown
Distribution : Unknown distribution

Seems to be working well on all my different hardware so far.

01micko · #339 Post by **01micko** » Mon 30 Jan 2012, 11:21

tubeguy wrote:Trying to find libavformat.so.52 and libavcodec.so.52 for Aqualung, no luck with PPM, google, slackpack, slackbuilds, pkgs.org or slacky.eu. Tried symlinking the .53 versions but got
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# aqualung
aqualung: /usr/lib/libavformat.so.52: version `LIBAVFORMAT_52' not found (required by aqualung)
aqualung: /usr/lib/libavcodec.so.52: version `LIBAVCODEC_52' not found (required by aqualung)
Any help?

Thanks

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libavxxx-5250

tubeguy.. try a PPM search for that.. they are the libs you should need .. let me know if it works and I'll put aqualung in PPM with that depend and it will install automatically

James C, thanks for doing a sanity check on full/grub install. I can confirm frugal/grub4dos is ok too.. and usb from universal installer.

drblock2 · #340 Post by **drblock2** » Mon 30 Jan 2012, 17:30

Three cheers for micko and nouveau_unload!

Slacko 5.3.2.1 boots to a desktop without menus, but nouveau_unload gets rid of the offending driver, guides the user through the save-file setup and reboots with vesa.

You can then load the proprietary nvidia driver via slickpet | Drivers and (after running through the xorgwizard installation routine) the results are quite spectacular. With the nvidia GeForce FX5200 and the recommended 173.14.31 driver, I got ca. 3000 fps.

I couldn't measure the rate with vesa, but measurements with previous versions were around 140 fps.

Everything else worked - automatic ethernet connection, sound, cups printing easily set up. CPU usage minimal as compared to the 3.2... kernel in Alpha 5, I have been running for hours now without the slightest sign of CPU fatigue.

Nvidia (unlike certain other manufacturers I could name) provides continuing support for older products - something we should really encourage. Solving this problem (resolving this issue) is simply a question of installing a useable driver at first boot-up so we don't scare new users off the deck of our new flagship before they have had a chance to look around.

But, this is what betas are for. I suspect that this might be more complicated than it seems.

In any case, micko, good luck on your studies and on to RC1.

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