Puppy with Detail (Look is Everything) Community Project

[RSH]

Do we have an Icon Editor for puppy (that hopefully works in Lucid)?

[TheProphet]

One neat-o thing I've been working with is My Own Mini-App for self hypnosis, and compositing comes in very handy for it.To be more specific a function called transset-df which sets transparency of windows, thus I can have two or more windows overlapping each other as transparent layers.

I use a transparent spinning hypno-wheel .gif file (hurry and get yours, there's only about eleventy-bazillion of them on the Net.) overlaid on this rsvp reader called WordFlashReader, which is a compiled .bin program of Dictator. Not the Microsux one where it poorly attempts speech recognition, but a hopped up word reader. Run the reader at about two or three times the speed of what you can read consciously and overlay it with the hypno-wheel, wham bam thank you ma'am you have your very own Subliminal Video generator
There's also in the Legacy OS-2 Puppy a proggie for making a screenshot video. Defaults at 6 frames per second, eh? Which you can speed up in about half of the out of the box video players on Puppy.

Right now I'm mostly playing around with it, seeing if it helps with word-by-word memorization. I quote the Bible a lot, and Shakespeare etc.
It helps greatly if you know which one you're quoting. Also knowing the difference between say (in the U.S.) the Constitution, The Gettysburg Address and the Pledge of Allegiance.

If you're trying to make a legal case and say "liberty and justice for all" you're actually quoting the pledge. Not Legally Binding.
Same with "government of the people by the people and for the people" isn't the Constitution either.

We've a really weak Public Education system here in America, a Liberal construct administered by Conservatives who don't want it to even exist. So you'd not be amazed, if you've conversed with Americans on any given subject, to find that most of us can't even properly use the English language, Heaven forfend that one should know any other languages and of course our laws and history.

A subliminal version of Flash-cards, perhaps? But right now it's just an experiment of mine.
Probably others are doing the same.

See, eye-candy does have a practical function or three built in.

My xcompmgr in Legacy has for some reason flaked on me between going to bed last night and waking up this morning, and I'm going through threads looking for clues to help me set it right. This one caught my eye.

I'm doing as the Linux motto says, "Have a lot of fun".

[TheProphet]

Do we have an Icon Editor for puppy (that hopefully works in Lucid)?

That's the other thing I wanted to look at, editing Karamba, I took out K-mess which is the Microsux Nutwerks Messenger (Pidgin is better) and filled its slot with the link to the WordFlashPlayer binary. which has an Icon with the extension .ico, all the other icons in the Karamba launcher have the .png extension and the path isn't an absolute path, it says "img/kmess.png" or "img/opera.png" without saying where the source images actually are. I put in the absolute address for the image in the WFPlayer directory and just have a blank space in the Karamba launcher.

It's more annoying than anything else, since it's my own Puppy computer and I know where to click to open it.

[battleshooter]

Coolness Jemimah, I've been looking forward to Saluki for awhile now but I didn't know it was going to be that awesome So glad something is being done about the retro icons and the overall slickness of Puppy. Really impressed you're even adding various GTK engines. Can I help in anyway? Maybe dig up elusive icons for you or modify icon themes. I'm not too artistic, but I appreciate good looking eye candy.

@John

Those two screenshots were actually off a Conky project I was setting up, it can be found here. It's still pretty rough around the edges because I'm not familiar with how to add text to the end of existing files. eg. Add some additional commands to the end of Nathan's wallpaper setter to create a fake transparency for Conky. If I have that down, I might be able to make installation a bit more automated I just haven't had time to look up how it's done.

Edit: My filehost Fileden is playing up at moment so no screenshots show up and files can't be downloaded

@RSH and TheProphet

What did you guys mean by "Icon Editor"? You mean something that will rename icons to the names they need to be to make an iconset like home48, www48, etc?

[john biles]

Hello TheProphet,
You'll find the Karamba theme files in root under .kde/share/apps/karamba/themes/

In the themes folder are a config file and a folder called img

Lets say I want to use an icon called wfp.png simply copy it in to the img folder. The default icon size is 32x32

Now I get the impression you've worked that by right clicking on the Karamba sidebar and selected "edit configuration" the editor will open. To change the icon, navigate to img/kmess.png and change it to img/wfp.png
Now hit save.

On the Karamba sidebar right click and select "reload configuration" and you icon should appear.

Hello battleshooter,
I'll checkout the link, thanks!

[pacer106]

I would like to offer my help with anything possible in finding the right look for puppy. i am not a graphics artist but i do like to tinker. if there is anything i can do to help please let me know & i will do my best to contribute

[jemimah]

Coolness Jemimah, I've been looking forward to Saluki for awhile now but I didn't know it was going to be that awesome So glad something is being done about the retro icons and the overall slickness of Puppy. Really impressed you're even adding various GTK engines. Can I help in anyway? Maybe dig up elusive icons for you or modify icon themes. I'm not too artistic, but I appreciate good looking eye candy.

I would like to offer my help with anything possible in finding the right look for puppy. i am not a graphics artist but i do like to tinker. if there is anything i can do to help please let me know & i will do my best to contribute

I need help in selecting good themes. If you have an afternoon to spend on gnome-look testing themes, and finding the ones that look the nicest and most unique, then tell me what they are, I'd be happy to add them. Themes that use theme engines are much smaller and faster than pixmap themes.

I haven't figured out what to do to get translucent gtk themes - but in theory it should be able to work - someone could take a look at that .

We could also use some different xfwm styles.

And the xfce notifications are themable with gtk styles. We could use a number of new notification themes.

As far as iconsets go, there are a lot of nice looking ones in the eye candy thread, but a lot of them are missing icons or are done in 32x32 instead of 48x48.

I'm always looking for feedback and suggestions.

[RSH]

What did you guys mean by "Icon Editor"? You mean something that will rename icons to the names they need to be to make an iconset like home48, www48, etc?

No. An Icon Editor is just a simple graphics program especially for icons.

F.E.: editing an icon sized 48x48 pix. Inside the icon editor the icon is shown as image, sized 480x480 pix. It is shown as matrix (we call that "Raster"). Every pixel of the icon is shown in the matrix as 10x10 pix area, so you can easily edit each and every single pixel of the icon.

In Windows i did use "icoFX". Unfortunately it does not run in wine.

Edit: sorry, my fault. It runs, but it can save only windows (.ico) and mac (.icns) files.

[jemimah]

Icons tend to be designed using SVG nowadays. That way you can quickly generate the icon in any size you want. If you want to make icons from scratch, you should probably use Inkscape.

[smokey01]

mtPaint will let you edit one pixel at a time if you zoom in far enough.

Gimp works very well too.

[pacer106]

does anyone know how many icons are in puppy total? including taskbar icons & all those extra.

i could go through icon sets making sure they have the proper amount & required sizes then make themes out of them if needed.

[battleshooter]

I need help in selecting good themes.

GTK themes? I have a couple favorites that use Murrine or Aurora, other that I haven't tried out many engines. Maybe you could tell me what engines specifically you're planning to include, and I'll look for themes for them. The translucent Murrine themes sounds interesting, I can have a look at those.

For iconsets, I tend to see beyond just the simple desktop icons, to me a complete set includes GTK icons. A lot of the themes the desktop icons sets are made from are lacking in this department. But I guess that won't matter if there is an updated GTK theme over all. Just a thought.

[jemimah]

These are the engines I have. Just ask if you want one that's not on the list.

• Aurora
  equinox
  gflat
  crux
  industrial
  clearlooks
  mist
  thinice
  bluecurve
  magicchicken
  lighthouseblue
  nodoka
  moblin
  murrine
  rezlooks
  TerraNova

[TheProphet]

Hello TheProphet,
You'll find the Karamba theme files in root under .kde/share/apps/karamba/themes/

In the themes folder are a config file and a folder called img

Lets say I want to use an icon called wfp.png simply copy it in to the img folder. The default icon size is 32x32

Now I get the impression you've worked that by right clicking on the Karamba sidebar and selected "edit configuration" the editor will open. To change the icon, navigate to img/kmess.png and change it to img/wfp.png
Now hit save.

On the Karamba sidebar right click and select "reload configuration" and you icon should appear.

Hello battleshooter,


I'll checkout the link, thanks!

Yeah, I found it, didn't think to look in a hiddenfolder under /root.

The .ico image I had for it was bigger than the standard, so I resized it and renamed it to .png in case that makes any difference. Thanks much.

Since I hardly ever use Libre (Open Office) there's what amounts to about 90 percent of the icons in karamba that are "free space" to put stuff that DOES get frequently used like Minesweeper, Shisen-sho, Maelstrom and Freecell. And the occasionally more productive tools.


putting an animated .gif as the wallpaper would be the next neat thing to do.[/i][/b]

[battleshooter]

Hi Jemimah,

Oily mackerel that's a lot of engines. I had a quick looking around at the themes available.

These engines kind of look old. Of course if you like them, that's totally fine, was just wonder if you knew what they look like, chunky, like Win95. Good for a retro look I suppose.

crux
industrial
thinice
bluecurve
magicchicken

Are you planning to add all these engines just for the theme support they provide, or you're only looking for the good looking engines? (Good looking is subject to opinion)

On the other hand, these engines look pretty modern from screenshots:

Aurora
equinox
nodoka
moblin
murrine
rezlooks
TerraNova
gflat
(Edit: Clearlooks is great too, I'm just sick of it)

Sorry for all the questions.

[dejan555]

I have pets for some gtk engines here
http://puppy.b0x.me/software/index.php? ... engines%2F

For those who don't know about site I collected lots of themes and wallpapers on my site here:
http://puppy.b0x.me/

There have been lots of new stuff probably on the forums since I haven't been much active lately (like you, john biles, I found puppy version that works for my PC, remastered it and now rarely trying new versions) but it's still much more browsable on my site and I think we already have many nice themes it's only question of taste and esthetic to put the right ones together. From all puppy releases I think 4.2 was the only official puppy release where I really liked the default setup.
And I agree few more MBs are not awefully much for good look, or reducing number of default wallpapers and themes if the default one hits the spot.
But not everyone's taste is alike.
Lately I much more like clean desktop with wbar, I hate when wallpaper is too high contrast or busy - it will be there on your desk so it needs to be easy, soft and calm, so pleasant to look at. Curently I use Aurora theme, fluxbox with custom theme, wbar with Bluestep Humanity icons and wallpaper of mine



For a while I was also obsessed with conky/lua setups, this was on kdpup though (kde3)

[jemimah]

Hi Jemimah,

Oily mackerel that's a lot of engines. I had a quick looking around at the themes available.

These engines kind of look old. Of course if you like them, that's totally fine, was just wonder if you knew what they look like, chunky, like Win95. Good for a retro look I suppose.

crux
industrial
thinice
bluecurve
magicchicken

Are you planning to add all these engines just for the theme support they provide, or you're only looking for the good looking engines? (Good looking is subject to opinion)

On the other hand, these engines look pretty modern from screenshots:

Aurora
equinox
nodoka
moblin
murrine
rezlooks
TerraNova
gflat
(Edit: Clearlooks is great too, I'm just sick of it)

Sorry for all the questions.

I was trying to get all the available engines, for maximum support. It probably does make sense to trim out the ugly ones.

[harii4]

As long there isn't 20 icons themes and gtk themes.
Some like the Minimalist’s Guide to a Productive Desktop - The K.I.S.S philosophy

[battleshooter]

Finally! Have regular internet back again!

Here are some Murrine themes. They're all basically the same, just different colors:















Pets can be found here.

I'm not sure if it's because I'm not running Metacity, but most of the Equinox and Aurora themes look similar. Haven't looked too deeply into them though.

Equinox:



http://www.puppylinuxstuff.meownplanet. ... TK/Equinox


Aurora:




http://www.puppylinuxstuff.meownplanet. ... TK/Aurora/

I couldn't find any TerraNova themes except for the ones that come packaged with the engine. They're pretty cool though and the engine is really interesting:



Not sure if I've given you too many or too little themes for you to peruse.

[jemimah]

Thanks for these! I'll take a look!