Firefox 9 -- next version, same game as FF 8

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Firefox 9.0.1 Pet for Lucid

#16 Post by playdayz »

Firefox 9.0.1 Pet for Lucid

Still working on this. Or, rather, working on it again. Thanks.
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Re: Firefox 9.0.1 Pet for Lucid

#17 Post by Brown Mouse »

playdayz wrote:Firefox 9.0.1 Pet for Lucid

I checked and Firefox 9.0.1 played a youtbube video with the latest flashplayer. Please let me know if there are other problems with flashplayer

I have implemented a variation of 01micko's suggestion--which makes perfect sense, since I could not understand why Firefox would not use its own libraries by preference.

Fast -> http://diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/Firef ... -Lucid.pet

Unbelievably slow -> ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pet ... -Lucid.pet

This pet does not symlink any of the Firefox libraries. Rather it uses the following command in /usr/bin/firefox. (This is what should have been done anyway.)

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/usr/lib/firefox/firefox
I think this should allow FF to update itself normally.
Hi playdayz

Still no go here after installing Firefox9.0.1 Lucid .pet
As soon as its fired up it completely freezes on me and I have to kill it.
Rolled back to FF8 again for now.

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#18 Post by willem1940NLD »

Cannot use lupu 528 as it breaks my alsa sound, so keep to 525 lupu.

Both firefox 8 and firefox 9 destroy my flashplayer; 9 moreover slackens down my internet, opening any site costs more than a minute.

Stepping back to firefox 4 is of no use, damage done, flashplayer hurt beyond repair and "install flashplayer" as dead as a doornail.

It looks as though I must make a new, clean install lupu 525 and keep old firefox 4 in place, without upgrading.

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#19 Post by Zhao »

I start firefox with this this line "su -c firefox YourNickHere" (root complex I guess xD), and that caused problems in lupu 528 so I've also stuck with lupu 525. Firefox 8 was the first to cause flash problems, but the libnss3.so replacement trick worked fine. However I can't make Firefox 9 work with flash. It's no problem, I'll just keep using Firefox 8, while an easy solution to this problem shows up :P, because it works just fine.

PS: I've found many solutions to some problems I encountered while using Lucid Puppy in this forum, so thanks for all your work here.

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#20 Post by playdayz »

Yes. Yes. The Firefox 9.0.1 pet still locks up. Sorry. I thought it was working for a while. Back to the drawing board.

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#21 Post by playdayz »

Let's Call This Testing for Now! At least it's on the fast server ;-)

This is a new version from the previous 9.0.1 pet. This is 9.0.1-2. The code below is implemented in this new pet.

Firefox 9.0.1 seems very sensitive to how it is started. One way it starts but it locks up. Another way it doesn't lock up but flashplayer doesn't work. This way seems to work.

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/usr/lib/firefox/run-mozilla.sh /usr/lib/firefox/firefox
Firefox 9.0.1-2 -> http://diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/Firef ... -Lucid.pet

You should uninstall any other Firefox pets before installing 9.0.1-2. And it should be OK to update--for a while at least ;-)
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#22 Post by Puppyt »

Thanks playdayz-
your 9.0.1 was still 'shuddering'/functional blackouting for me for normal browsing, so I opted to also install Opera from the Quickpet menu - from which I'm writing now. Did that rather than try and correct using the scripting suggestions from seaside/micko01 et al (which was confusing a trog like me),
Cheers!

PS HungarianXP-528, frugal install on intel celeron 2.4Ghz, 2GB ram, in JWM

UPDATE: While sending the previous, I just cut'n'pasted your code straight into the terminal I opened on the desktop, pressed 'return' and up it came, with negligible hiccups in the 30mins I've been browsing with it (and posting now). Even given my patchy internet service, I think that your updated code has solved it! Thanks :)
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#23 Post by Zhao »

playdayz wrote:Let's Call This Testing for Now! At least it's on the fast server ;-)

This is a new version from the previous 9.0.1 pet. This is 9.0.1-2. The code below is implemented in this new pet.

Firefox 9.0.1 seems very sensitive to how it is started. One way it starts but it locks up. Another way it doesn't lock up but flashplayer doesn't work. This way seems to work.

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/usr/lib/firefox/run-mozilla.sh /usr/lib/firefox/firefox
Firefox 9.0.1-2 -> http://diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/Firef ... -Lucid.pet

You should uninstall any other Firefox pets before installing 9.0.1-2. And it should be OK to update--for a while at least ;-)
I have installed this new pet (Firefox-9.0.1-2-Lucid.pet) and it works great. Firefox 9.0.1 and flash are now working in my lupu 525 with no problems. Thanks playdayz for your work :)

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#24 Post by willem1940NLD »

I took the risk .... on my clean re-installed puppy 525. Yes, everything seems o.k now.

Edit: Now all of a sudden "Lucid Puppy News" is out of reach in my Quickpet, browser opens but page does not show. Coincidence?

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#25 Post by playdayz »

Edit: Now all of a sudden "Lucid Puppy News" is out of reach in my Quickpet, browser opens but page does not show. Coincidence?
willem1940NLD, Which browser? Possibly not coincidence.

Add: But I just checked and it opens for me in both Chromium 18 and Firefox 9.0.1-2.

I see, you are using the Firefox 9.0.1-2 pet in Lucid 5.2.5. Am i right? I didn't test that. Does it put http://diddywahdiddy.net/LupuNews/ in the address bar when you click Lucid Puppy News in Quickpet?

Add: I just t4ested in a pristine boot (pfix=ram) of 5.2.5 and Quickpet Lucid News worked with the Firefox 9.0.1-2 pet.

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#26 Post by willem1940NLD »

No, http://diddywahdiddy.net/LupuNews/ does no more appear in browser, just only the browser homepage.

Have now added this address to my bookmarks in browser, which will do for the winter if necessary.

Might of any use be, boot, F2, puppy pfix=clean or puppy pfix=purge?

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#27 Post by playdayz »

willem1940NLD wrote:No, http://diddywahdiddy.net/LupuNews/ does no more appear in browser, just only the browser homepage.

Have now added this address to my bookmarks in browser, which will do for the winter if necessary.

Might of any use be, boot, F2, puppy pfix=clean or puppy pfix=purge?
Does the file /usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser contain

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#!/bin/sh
exec /usr/lib/firefox/run-mozilla.sh /usr/lib/firefox/firefox "$@"
Right-click the file and choose Open as Text to view the contents.

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#28 Post by willem1940NLD »

No,
#!/bin/sh
exec /usr/lib/firefox/run-mozilla.sh /usr/lib/firefox/firefox "$@"
is not there .... seems logical to me as I had to make choice after firefox installed, which browser must be "default" and then it calls itself just "firefox" in automation ... (!?).

Nevertheless, this works flawlessly .... for now.

Less pleasant: link "Puppy News" in petget still inactive, even after I have used "purge" startup; firefox opens with nothing but my home page.

Edit: thinking further, if it were not the charm of reference that caused the stabilisation, maybe "uninstall old Firefox first" may have done the trick. So, 2 reasons for me to wipe 525 for another fresh reinstall. Will be back thereafter.

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#29 Post by willem1940NLD »

Done.

Formatted, cleanly installed 525, downloaded and tried the new Firefox, working alright.

Installed & rebooted: Firefox dead.

Checked "default browser" and it showed the long new string as name, also under desktop icon taskbar bottom left, as an extra browser listed.

Switched to plain "Firefox" .... still dead.

Rebooted: Firefox working, string nowhere present.

Note well: this is the first Firefox I installed this time, no memories present to any earlier version.

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#30 Post by willem1940NLD »

F*

Again, link to "News" disappeared from petget.

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#31 Post by willem1940NLD »

Also, "more pets" out of reach now in petget.

Offside: why are several of such and other important pets missing in 525/Lucid package manager ..... e.g, Startmount, Guvcview ..... ?

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#32 Post by willem1940NLD »

Things are worsening.

Couldnt use "click" links given in chats, they only open my home page in browser.

Uninstalled Firefox9 and found Firefox4 disappeared from petget & package manager; picked offered No.7 instead, working fairly well.

But: Install_crashplayer(flashplayer) dead, no use trying de/re-install; it pretends to install but does no more appear in menu.

I am getting annoyed wiping and re-installing puppy 525 almost daily.

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#33 Post by bigpup »

willem1940NLD,

Is there some reason you have not moved to Lucid Puppy 5.2.8.004.
It is much improved over Puppy 525.

Get mad at Firefox for their screwed up Linux update.
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected :shock:
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#34 Post by willem1940NLD »

bigpup wrote:willem1940NLD,

Is there some reason you have not moved to Lucid Puppy 5.2.8.004.
It is much improved over Puppy 525.

Get mad at Firefox for their screwed up Linux update.
528 main problem, several upgrades as well as clean installs tried: it killed my Alsa sound within 3 reboots, repeated setup of no use. Even speaker icon in tray bottom right never returned.

Fighting again with Slacko 531 now, 3rd clean re-install; cannot get Libreoffice working, it just doesn't open up for me. Borrowed 1.6 java Lupu pet installed without comments but is of no help. Slacko further works fine, using (lupu) Pidgin pet 2.1. I find it stable so far and pleasantly quick even with full Ext3 format on stick USB1. It uses Seamonkey pre-installed. Would like to keep Slacko but I need Office.

Now thinking about again a new install 525 and trying a different browser, before having any traces of firefox on board.

Might all this keep failing then I will give 431 a new try.

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#35 Post by RetroTechGuy »

willem1940NLD wrote:Now thinking about again a new install 525 and trying a different browser, before having any traces of firefox on board.

Might all this keep failing then I will give 431 a new try.
I found that 5.20 was less power-hogging than 4.3.1 Had tried the earlier 5.x series, but they weren't inspiring enough to make me upgrade from my working 4.3.1.

5.20 made me jump right on board (and it worked so well, that I was hesitant to upgrade to 5.28 -- but I broke my 5.20 save file, and figured I give it a try).

Only recently upgraded from 5.20 to 5.28 (since I have frugal installs, I still have 5.20 laying around on several machines).

Put 5.25 on a really old laptop, which seems to work well (light memory load, which is good for that old critter). It had 4.3.1 Retro previously, but that was hardware intensive also. 4.12 worked pretty well on it.

But you shouldn't have to go back that far...

Don't recall if you mentioned it, but what's your hardware? Relatively new, isn't it? (i.e. > 1 GHz processor, etc).
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