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#166 Post by don570 »

To meeki


You're the only person that has ever expressed any desire
to make a right click package :)

Be careful how you name the package.

I suggest rightclick-fatdog-1.0.pet

or

rightclick-64bit-1.0.pet


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#168 Post by tazoc »

smokey01 wrote:Don570, already done it here.
http://www.smokey01.com/software/Fatdog ... -5.9.8.pet
Thank you smokey01, I haven't had a chance to look at that. :D

I think some mimetypes in Lighthouse64 might differ from other Pups, but if so, and you haven't already, Meeki might be able to tweak the Pet.

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#169 Post by smokey01 »

tazoc wrote:
smokey01 wrote:Don570, already done it here.
http://www.smokey01.com/software/Fatdog ... -5.9.8.pet
Thank you smokey01, I haven't had a chance to look at that. :D

I think some mimetypes in Lighthouse64 might differ from other Pups, but if so, and you haven't already, Meeki might be able to tweak the Pet.

Regards,
TaZoC
tazoc they differ in Fatdog too but every right click app I have tried works so far. There are bound to be some that don't.
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#170 Post by don570 »

I originally got the scripts and apps out of Lighthouse 32 bit and
some from Fluppy

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#171 Post by meeki »

I'll test smokeys 1st on SAT then if any issue I'll build yours :)

I got burnt out with pet tweaking after Skype. I'm back to my self again.

My latest fun has been trying to get amazon videos working in LH64. thanks to tazoc getting me HAL im onto flash plugin issue. It now wants to work but as soon as it loads the vid it crashes the plugin to the amazon video and any other webpage open using flash.

I have a feeling this may be as bad a skype pet :( Its fun fig this stuff out though.

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#172 Post by Puppyt »

Hi TaZoC and other puppy gurus,
we love LH64 here - last few weeks have forgotten that we ever used MicroSoft OS's this baby has been rock-solid and such a pleasure to use. Thank You!

Now this morning I broke the system trying to get our (last working) scanner operational in LH64. Must have loaded the wrong package from the slackware repos and on reboot, lost the human interface peripherals of USB mouse and PS2 keyboard. Managed to replace the broken LH64save.3fs from an earlier snap2 backup (and make a habit of moving all my working files off-home anyway) so I've spent about a day trying to nut out sane, hplip and parport issues with HP backends under LH64 - but I feel like I'm tilting at windmills. Xsane doesn't look for parallel port scanners (nor peasyscan), hplip-slacko-5.3.3 pet doesn't seem to be functional here, and I don't have a clue about installing ppscsi - should I actually need it to communicate with the scanner. I first installed hplip_scan_fd64 -3.11.5 but I dunno that the 5100C is supported. Any suggestions on the matter will be gratefully received - but I am thinking that a parallel-usb port adapter might be the sanest way to go,
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#173 Post by rcrsn51 »

Puppyt wrote:I first installed hplip_scan_fd64 -3.11.5 but I dunno that the 5100C is supported.
It's not. According to the README here, you will need a lot of stuff to get this relic working. And it may not work at all with new kernels.
Any suggestions on the matter will be gratefully received - but I am thinking that a parallel-usb port adapter might be the sanest way to go.
An adapter won't make it work. Go to your local thrift store and buy an old HP or Canon multi-function unit. Check that the ink cartridges are still inside, even if they are dried up. The scanner unit will probably work fine.

Send your 5100C to the recycler.

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#174 Post by Puppyt »

Heh - thanks rcrsn51 ;)

I *might* try to get it working under WINE. We have generally pretty poor recycling options out here in rural Australia, and generally it winds up as landfill despite Council's claims to the contrary. My trouble is I've since bought (new) a CanoScan3000 and a HP ScanJet G2400 and both died in the *rs* very soon after purchase. The Disposable Mentality infuriates me... but so does the scan speed of the old beast. So I am in partial agreement with you - this dinosaur isn't worth any more time recompiling for 64-bit, Linux 3.0.3 kernel environs, particularly by a numpty like me.
Ho hum - might have to do my scanning from my old Toshie 3480CT - it still has an XP partition on it somewheres for just such contingencies. There's blood and electrons to be squeezed from these old stones yet...
Thanks for the heads up on the adapter issue.
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#175 Post by meeki »

So I needed to do some python coding. Have not done this out of windowsXP so I fig what they hey I know the Devx-LH64_514.sfs has let me run all my python stuff.

Typed in idle in terminal and got;
" ** IDLE can't import Tkinter. Your Python may not be configured for Tk. ** "
Well I know i can do it in a text editor but rather missed IDLE Python GUI.

after much poking around It only needs tcl and tk http://www.tcl.tk/software/tcltk/
"export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="
and a putting it all in a sfs keeps it away from the current lib links. With out it python cant find them.

Made an icon in the utility/Development menu and some checks.

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#!/bin/bash

export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib

file="/usr/lib64/python2.6/site-packages/scripts/idle"
if [ -e "$file" ]
then
	idle
else
	zenity --warning --text "Unable to load IDLE\!\nFirst check that you have installed and are running the Devx-L64_514.sfs\n If Devx is installed feel free to contact meeki007@gmail.com to report an error." --title "LH64 IDLE warning"
fi
Install the Python-IDLE_tcl_tk-LH64-8.5.12.sfs and enjoy the stock Python IDE for your own code projects.

Download Link to the SFS 3.2meg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12968946/lighth ... 8.5.12.sfs




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#176 Post by Q5sys »

TazOC,
Was catching up on some reading on Barry's Blog and I found this post about PPM: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02985

Will those changes be able to get worked into the final LH64 release that you said you were working on? I personally dont need it, but I do think it would help those less skilled in Linux. Since you're release is already so user friendly, I was hoping it'd get added (if you had time).

Update: I'll be working on the new XFCE for LHP64 later tonight... hopefully things will go smoothly. :)

EDIT: You told me before but Im daft and forgot... what is the dir in LHP that shows all the installed packages? The one where each package has a corresponding file identifying it.

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LHPUP Record

#177 Post by meeki »

TazOC and every one else.

I too have been working on a program for LHPUP for a long time now. Its close to Release.

LHPUP Record

Screen capture GUI for FFMPEG. The GUI has a bit more to go but most of the bash hacks are done.

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Video of what i'm trying to do.
http://youtu.be/9bwOAV_tvvo

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I have not forgot you Puppyt

A while back you asked for some howto's on setting up lighthouse as a samba / web / server for hosting things.

I took this to heart and decided to do some stuff by recoding my desktop screen with audio and making some howto vids.

The Sad/Bad:
puppy for sure and linux in general does not have any real nice programs for this.

Recodmydesktop
http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/about.php

Loved it in linux mint or unbuntu, but when i compiled it for light house or puppy its supper slow as hell. tried all the tricks still slow. and it was not fun to make a pet of.
Recordmydektop also saves files as a ogg. You tube hates this format so you have to take the extra step of converting it and this required another program I had to make a pet of.

VLC media player can be found as a sfs for light house

I could never get this to work right as a screen recorder in LHpup

XVidCap
http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/x ... ?title=Faq

It worked. Lacks tons of features and would not grab my audio from mic. Its captures a nice vid but I got tired of recording my audio separate and then merging them with ffmpeg. yep built a pet of this too for LH64 but I dont relese pets that are a pain to use.

Pup record made by Lobster (you may know him for his macpup videos)
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 519#613319

This neet simple script brought my mind into using ffmpeg as a desktop recorder. It worked and was EZ to use but you can only record your entire screen with it. But it made me take a closer look at FFmpeg

So this had lead to:
LHpupRecord

Its far from done but it should work with all Puppy's 4 and up as its all built using SH / BASH Scrips and a few C files that build on install of the pet.

Instead of modding pups I'm stepping into the world as a pup maker.

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#178 Post by Puppyt »

Thanks meeki!
writing in haste due to work/study/family commitments, but I thank you very much for looking into the issue of using LH64 for noob-friendly server functions. My immediate goals have shifted a little since then, but I wonder whether you (or others) might look into at some stage in the future compiling pets for "Openshot", JabRef and the latest "Docear"? Actually, your planned screencasts with LHPUPREC could be especially useful in showing just how a typical compile is performed, and an SFS or PET then generated...

JUST SAW YOUR YOUTUBE - LHPUP RECORD LOOKS FABULOUS! I've muddled about with avidemux, openshot, open movie, handbrake and videodub, and only briefly with screenCapture and simpleSHOT (the latter 2 in pemasu's Exprimo 5x14) so I appreciate the extra miles you've put in to this, and with gtkdialog. I'm sure it will be a real asset to the Puppy fold,
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#179 Post by meeki »

Puppyt

Well got tired of working on the LHPUP Record. Decided to make your video request for building a pet / sfs and make one of your requested apps in the process.
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Docear
PET
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12968946/lighth ... ild123.pet
MD5
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12968946/lighth ... 23.pet.md5


Docear
SFS
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12968946/lighth ... ild123.sfs
MD5
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12968946/lighth ... 23.sfs.md5

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Docear JAVA to a PET or SFS Tutorial

Video 1 - 31 min
http://youtu.be/H5Qv_ktjIZc

Video 2 - 4 min
http://youtu.be/KLcCcsDVz9M


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#180 Post by Puppyt »

Hey meeki -
just got back from a birthday dinner out for my daughter, practically to find that all *my* birthdays have come at once! Thank you so much for the effort that you've put into LHPUPrecord - I've just downloaded both your pet compilation 'tubes for intense review material on some of my pet projects... I've actually been bleating about such a video instructional resource, elsewhere on the forums (Newbies threads) for ages - this will be a huge help and lift my confidence to actually DIY rather than pester the likes of your Good Self. Thanks especially for burning the midnight oil on this, it's marvelous work. Will give feedback also on the 64-bit/LH Docear SFS later - you've got the absolute latest build there - I've gotta tell Joran and the guys there about that long startup splash - happens in every Puppy I test, but not Windblows - so it isn't the speed of your computer.
Kudos!

(P.S. Just been trying to explain to the wife the significance of your input here, within the broader context of what makes the Puppy Linux Community such a great place to hang around in :) )
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#181 Post by meeki »

Hey puppyt, thanks for the support.

I know I can make more organized howto's. In the army as a medic I got CPR instructor trained and CLS (Combat Life Saver) Instructor trained by the unit for teaching Battalion down 7 different 50 -60 man classes. Then later in my carrier I retrained and became the Task Force armor for another unit. Had to teach weapon qualification.

Public speaking is not an issue. However I should not have just winged it like that. next time I'll make myself a note card on the other screen to keep myself on track. Lay out a lesson plan like i did when I was instructing.

I left the video as is because its shows how to fix a mistake in a build. IE the Exec="foo" issue in the *.desktop file.

I'm back in College now so time is limited. I'll try to get out a video on making a pet with new2dir and if that fails ./configure, make, make DESTDIR= make DESTDIR can help if your ending up with an empty new2dir as some pets are a pain to be made. Its not that hard just a time hog to slow down and explain.

Some things will never be in the realm of a 15 to 30 min video. Some pets are a nightmare to make.

I'm thinking about doing a video series on gtkdialog, and zenity. Kinda like the videos bucky does on The New Boston. http://thenewboston.org/tutorials.php

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Puppyt Wrote
Just been trying to explain to the wife the significance of your input here, within the broader context of what makes the Puppy Linux Community such a great place to hang around in
This is the truth.

I love it here in puppy land too. People aren't stingy with there knowledge.

The only thing I recommend to any one looking to start doing any thing outside a Linux stock Desktop application (making pets, config .deb packages, making a dialog) is to take one class online or in collage for one programming language.


I'm a total puppy / linux noob. The only thing that has saved me is that I took Pascal, Java, Java Script, HTML back in the day (1996-1999).
You may not remember all the code but you remember how code works. You know a function, you know a While loop, if statements, and most important Comparisons.

There are allot more than that but if you have a good Idea of how the above work in a few languages when you see code else ware you head does not do a mobious strip maneuver.

Good luck puppyt I'm sure you get it and be providing how to's to other puppy fans in less than a year.

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#182 Post by Puppyt »

@ meeki your Docear sfs works perfectly in my LH64 - Big Thanks!

I hadn't meant to deflect you from your other goals when I mentioned Docear earlier, so I didn't provide the link (http://www.docear.org/) - I'm very grateful that you took the trouble to track it down *and* compile the latest in PET and SFS when you have so much else going on. Docear is still getting minor kinks worked out (e.g., importing and organising user's PDF annotations) and is going through lots of updates recently. So, when Docear gets a bit more mature I'll use your tute to update the pets. Your contribution does all that I need it to do, so is a great research tool for LH64 (and other pupplets).

Sorry TaZoC and all for slightly derailing the LH thread further, gotta respond :)
meeki I *thought* you might have had professional experience in tutorial settings - well, you might have made some bloopers but your natural delivery was excellent, and turning it into a tutorial-within-a-tutorial, on-the-fly made it more memorable and effective. Don't take it down! The asides you make on java pets and sfs/pet compatibility are also very useful points for us noobs, too.
I reckon it would be useful to bring a LightHouse/64-bit Puppy perspective to the realm of 'how to" tutorials already covered here http://puppylinux.org/wikka/TutorialYouTube. I feel that LHPUPrecord would be a big gain in this regard, in due course...

Good luck with your studies meeki! I'm back in college now meself, so I appreciate your time with this.

(erm I did Basic and Pascal in High School back when MicroBee's were the "In" thing, and haven't really touched the field of programming with a barge pole since - but I quite agree, the discipline that a (or any) computer language teaches you, is a big help when you need confidence to get "under the hood" in Linux)
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#183 Post by tazoc »

Q5sys wrote:TazOC,
Was catching up on some reading on Barry's Blog and I found this post about PPM: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02985

Will those changes be able to get worked into the final LH64 release that you said you were working on? I personally dont need it, but I do think it would help those less skilled in Linux. Since you're release is already so user friendly, I was hoping it'd get added (if you had time).
Good question, I'll add it to my To Do. I was waiting for all the updates to PPM to settle before inclusion. Might not make into RC1, but hopefully after that.
Update: I'll be working on the new XFCE for LHP64 later tonight... hopefully things will go smoothly. :)

EDIT: You told me before but Im daft and forgot... what is the dir in LHP that shows all the installed packages? The one where each package has a corresponding file identifying it.
/var/log/packages, same as in Slackware. I think I'll put a symlink to that directory in /root/.packages.
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Ideas for now or later

#184 Post by Pete22 »

Hello to TazOC and others:

The developers for a puppy named Carolina to be released Oct 5; has the
latest version of the XFCE desktop working in puppy as well as enhanced
Xfce options via GUI not offered in Saluki, or any other distro Puppy or
otherwise. I know it is x32 bit so perhaps their work will not be helpful
to you.However, some times just an idea can spark someone's creative
juices, so I thought I would mention it. You may want to contact Elroy or
Geoffrey for more information .

I also like the improvements that Jemimah made to the Puppy Package
Manager, It looks for dependencies and if they are not already installed,
it looks elsewhere to find a copy and downloads them when possible
Very handy, However, Jemimah has "Linux Burnout" right now so I would
contact Elroy or Geoffrey for more information about that if you are
interested.

I know that LHP x64 has a much greater capacity to do beautiful screen
savers. Is there a way, or could there be a way created to also create an
ongoing random picture slideshow screensaver that uses pictures from
files or folders that I designate?

Keep up the wonderful work you folks are doing.

Pete

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#185 Post by meeki »

Pete22
I know that LHP x64 has a much greater capacity to do beautiful screen
savers. Is there a way, or could there be a way created to also create an
ongoing random picture slideshow screensaver that uses pictures from
files or folders that I designate?
XscreenSaver 5.14 (stock screensaver app in LHPUP64) will do just what your asking.

Mode: is stock set to random. It will cycle through the screen savers in the list checked below that are not subdued and have a check in the check box.

Out of the ones available in the list the following will do images from a folder of your choice:

Carousel
Decayscreen
GLSlideshow
Jigsaw
Photopile

After unchecking/checking the ones you want or if one select mode: only one click the Advance tab next to Display modes

Uncheck grab Desktop images

Now check : Choose Random Image:
Brows to a folder of the photos you want to display and now your using photos of your own choosing.

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