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Keef


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PostPosted: Wed 01 Feb 2012, 16:51    Post subject:  

I vote for a "Community Shed".
Likely to end up like a cross between a Nissen Hut and the Sydney Opera House (as if built by Ikea).
Probably.
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PostPosted: Wed 01 Feb 2012, 17:12    Post subject:  

Quote:
I want I want I want!!!

Sometimes....to get what you really want....is not that easy....

http://www.projectcartoon.com/cartoon/3
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PostPosted: Wed 01 Feb 2012, 17:56    Post subject:  

Free speech can be off topic and in poor taste. putting down someones' work and free gift to the community simply because it's not to your liking is well......
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PostPosted: Wed 01 Feb 2012, 18:56    Post subject:  

jim3630 wrote:
Free speech can be off topic and in poor taste. putting down someones' work and free gift to the community simply because it's not to your liking is well......


Excuse me for the words that are off-topic, but:

If some personage is a locomotive then there is an impasse somewhere for him.

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cthisbear

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PostPosted: Wed 01 Feb 2012, 20:24    Post subject:  

pemasu :

Considering the last conversation >>re b43 Broadcom.

Would this help in Saluki?

I appreciate your previous help with Slacko, just that it
is a PITA with Broadcom.

However I am happy that I test it and moan on Murga
instead of a newbie....if you get my drift.

""""""

From >> Fluppy won't boot

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=75573&start=15

Part of the read me on their site.

" DISCLAIMER
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This is an Official Release of Broadcom's hybrid Linux driver for use with
Broadcom based hardware.

WHERE TO GET THE RELEASE
------------------------

http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php

IMPORTANT NOTE AND DISCUSSION OF HYBRID DRIVER
----------------------------------------------
There are separate tarballs for 32 bit and 64 bit x86 CPU architectures.
Make sure you use the appropriate tarball for your machine.

Other than 32 vs 64 bit, the hybrid binary is agnostic to

the specific versions (2.6.X) and distributions
(Fedora, Ubuntu, SuSE, etc).

It performs all interactions with the OS through OS specific files (wl_linux.c, wl_iw.c, osl_linux.c) that are shipped in source form.

You compile this source on your system and link with a precompiled binary file (wlc_hybrid.o_shipped) which contains the rest of the driver.

http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php

Chris.
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Geoffrey


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PostPosted: Thu 02 Feb 2012, 08:23    Post subject:  

jemimah wrote:
Retrovol is in the repo. Can you check if installing it fixes your problem?

Geoffrey wrote:
Bug, Having trouble with sound mixer, have tried two different usb headsets, c-media and a logitech I know these work as I have them working previously with the retrovol mixer,

I can see them listed and can select them in the xfce4-mixer, but still the sound only works through the main sound card, running the alsa wizard doesn't find any sound cards at all and Kirk's multiple sound card wizard doesn't run


Still no luck getting usb headsets working, still the same problem, unable to get them to play system sounds even though they appear in the xfce mixer,
the Logitech one I can hear myself in the headset and adjust levels but that's as far as it goes, they don't show in the retrovol mixer and still if I run the ALSA wizard
that kills the mixer and doesn't detect anything, this requires a reboot to get the sound back, the multiple sound card wizard doesn't run,
if I run teamspeak that works with the headsets as it has it's own sound setup utility.
This a usb stick install I wonder if that's the problem, anyone else had similar issues Confused
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Thu 02 Feb 2012, 10:19    Post subject:  

cthisbear. This link does contain nice datasheet of broadcom chips.

http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Supported_devices

With lspci -nnv you can check what broadcom chip you have and what driver will work for you. There is now new opensource driver family brcm80211, which have two new kernel drivers: brcmsmac and brcmfmac and they handle now 4 chips which were previously handled by proprietary wl.
Wl is tricky. To use it...you have to disable ssb and b43. There is scripts to do that in /etc/init.d or in /root/Startup....but there is also possiblity that ssb disablind has side effects.
Those 2 new drivers now handle some of previously wl driver handled chips...but not all......
If there is need....wl driver can be compiled and included as separate pet with script to automatically disable ssb and b43 and then load wl.

In 3.2.2 kernel those new drivers are changed from staging to network drivers section and same time me or 01micko didnt find the right recipe to get them enabled. Probably it will be fixed properly in next kernel.

Summary...there is still many broadcom chips which needs wl driver...but...I have seen very few requests for wl since brcm80211 family was introduced. Woof automatically installs needed firmwares for brcm80211 to the build if woof script recognizes 2.6.39 kernel or newer.
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jemimah


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PostPosted: Thu 02 Feb 2012, 11:23    Post subject:  

Geoffrey wrote:
jemimah wrote:
Retrovol is in the repo. Can you check if installing it fixes your problem?

Geoffrey wrote:
Bug, Having trouble with sound mixer, have tried two different usb headsets, c-media and a logitech I know these work as I have them working previously with the retrovol mixer,

I can see them listed and can select them in the xfce4-mixer, but still the sound only works through the main sound card, running the alsa wizard doesn't find any sound cards at all and Kirk's multiple sound card wizard doesn't run


Still no luck getting usb headsets working, still the same problem, unable to get them to play system sounds even though they appear in the xfce mixer,
the Logitech one I can hear myself in the headset and adjust levels but that's as far as it goes, they don't show in the retrovol mixer and still if I run the ALSA wizard
that kills the mixer and doesn't detect anything, this requires a reboot to get the sound back, the multiple sound card wizard doesn't run,
if I run teamspeak that works with the headsets as it has it's own sound setup utility.
This a usb stick install I wonder if that's the problem, anyone else had similar issues Confused


It seems the multiple sound card wizard is not actuallly installed. Tman posted a pet of it here to try.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=505690#505690

I'll add it to the next release.
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jemimah


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PostPosted: Thu 02 Feb 2012, 14:06    Post subject:  

Billtoo has uploaded his Seamonkey and Firefox pets and his VLC sfs to the saluki repo. To see them, open the Ppm and click the Update Repositories button.
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nooby

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PostPosted: Thu 02 Feb 2012, 15:23    Post subject:  

Not sure how to write this at all. My English fails me.

I know you are the Developer. You decide and I am just
a user. Suppose 90% of us users wants to ahve single click?

Why force 90% to change from double click to single click?


Would it not be easier to only force the 10% that needs
double click to get it using the set up? Smile

Nope I have no source for my take that 90% wants single
instead of double. Maybe it is 99% that wants single click instead .

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Bert


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PostPosted: Thu 02 Feb 2012, 15:36    Post subject:  

Nooby, I think jemimah explained earlier in this thread that single click is technically not possible.
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PostPosted: Thu 02 Feb 2012, 15:42    Post subject:  

oops well that is surprising almost every other puppy have it?
And I did change to it using the set up in control center or
whereever it is done. Maybe we talk about different things
I mean when one have the file manager going.
Maybe you talk about other situations?

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PostPosted: Thu 02 Feb 2012, 16:09    Post subject:  

Ah yes, I was thinking of the desktop.

Jemimah explained it in this post.

Magerlab's post following jemimah's is also worth reading.

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PostPosted: Thu 02 Feb 2012, 17:16    Post subject:  

My bad I should have explained that I meant
the file manager and not the Desktop or pinboard
as some name it,

Anyway often one are allowed to do two single click
after each other instead of double click.

One do a single right click and then a single left click.

That way one don't need to try and try and try and fail and
fail to make the double ones fast enough. Very embarrassing
to fail many times in a row.

Anyway she is the Boss so who am I to whine Smile

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Marv


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PostPosted: Thu 02 Feb 2012, 18:56    Post subject: singleclick and doubleclick time  

To set the file manager to single click, open it (Thunar). Under Edit, click on preferences, Under the Behavior tab, choose Single click to activate items. I lengthen the doubleclick time to 400 or so in the Mouse control app under hardware in the control panel. These settings, plus using launchers in the xfce panel satisfy my double click aversion. To reiterate, the doubleclick on desktop is part and parcel of xfce for now. Each window manager has strong and weak points and there are pups for all tastes.
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