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aarf

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PostPosted: Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:30    Post subject:  

Delta for 006 to 007 is size 11 M
http://smokey01.com/aarf/xdelta/saluki/luki-006.iso___luki-007.iso.delta (*®* verified and certified to produce the real deal)
and
http://smokey01.com/aarf/xdelta/saluki/luki-005.iso___luki-007.iso.delta ( 14M )
also
http://smokey01.com/aarf/xdelta/saluki/devx_luki_006.sfs___devx_luki_007.sfs.delta size 2.4 M but see notes about dexv on the front page of this thread

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PostPosted: Tue 17 Jan 2012, 23:43    Post subject: Re: Luki 6
Subject description: I see you posted 7 while I was working on six. GREAT.
 

Pete22 wrote:
I really lijke this puppy. I have not worked on a alpha puppy before so please bare with me if I did this wrong.

Yep this is pretty much how it's done.

Pete22 wrote:

Message to windows users tells them all a lot of geeky stuff that most of them don't need to know. Have the message welcome everyone to Puppy Linux and several other niceties. Then explain the best way to get puppy on their computer. Then tell them if they are willing to do it that way, they are free to do it now. Then to the others who want to install it in others ways, them give this message about these concerns.


I'm not entirely sure which message this is. The one that says "Welcome, woof, woof?" at the top?

Pete22 wrote:

Needs auto-mount by default. The mount program in use is not friendly. Preferences does not let me choose to see all devises on one pages. Most of the other preferences are too geeky for me to understand. I could not tell if it did anything or not. I did not notice the little icon in the task bar that shows each of the devises until much later. I do not know if it is part of the same program or not. We have much friendlier mount programs that show us exactly what’s happening.


I agree, Pmount sucks. I'll probably replace it in 008.

Automouting is pretty dangerous on Puppy. First it gives windows users the idea that it's ok to not unmount, like it is on windows. If you do that in linux, you absolutely will lose data. Secondly, having the drives that you are not using unmounted prevents them from getting damaged, either by the user doing something dumb or by something going wrong with the software.

Pete22 wrote:

I kept loosing site of my mouse cursor. I guess because it is small and black on blue. Sorry I have old eyes. I changed it to the blue premium because it was the biggest. Now its blue on blue. So changed picture. Psychedelic Orange is beautiful but hard on old eyes. I like the one with purple, orange and blue, the orange as an accent is very nice. Unfortunately, the blue premium cursor seems to fade in and out. Is it supposed to do that? I changed to the white one on this screen, its great. So is the Blue crystal cursor.

Yeah the big white one is the best for visibility. Maybe I'll have it the default. The premium cursor is supposed to be animated, but it is kind of annoying.

Pete22 wrote:

No desktop key on task bar. there is a thingee that tells where each window is on this workspace but nothing that let me see the desktop monetarily.

You can add that in the panel preferences if you want. I'll replace the workspace switcher with the desktop shower for 008.

Pete22 wrote:

I also had trouble after I maximized a page, it only wanted to be full size or minimized after that. I would like the choice of having it go back to it normal size too.


I'm not sure what the cause of this is.


Pete22 wrote:

I had a problem with the puppy package manager. I had worked with it for about an hour before I realized on the far right was a discription of each package. It appears that the collums cannot be adjusted and mine did no allow the discriptions to start until 10 inches from the left. That means that I would never have seen the [package discriptions if I had not maximized the whole page. Also some of the discriptions include “geekspeek” so I don’t know they do.

Get the lhp pet to combine with package manager on the back end and tell puppy what is currenty installed each time the puppy package manager is opened. Then on the front end let Puppy tell the user what kind of puppy they have and highlight the packages the user could download that would work on their puppy. It would be nice if puppy package manager would also highlight in red any packages that the current puppy needs but has not installed. like libraries and stuff.

The package manage is not really ready for testing yet.


Pete22 wrote:

xfce Panel Preferences - When I started I had no idea what a panel was.


I guess you'd call it a taskbar?

Pete22 wrote:

I do not understand what the first three choices on the sound retroval are for. Why doesn't pcm have a check mark. and why are the some check marked and some not. I understand how to raise and lower the sound. If the person gets sound when they test it in step two, tell them they can exit. If not, try step three. On a side note the sound indicator on the task bar keeps popping up even when I don’t touch it or have any sound on. Now I cant get it to go away.

I'll see if I can do anything with retrovol.

Pete22 wrote:

Sven hotkey configuration - It does not tell you how to use it. Do I just type the numbers? if so how does puppy know that I am not just using those numbers in a program?


You just type whatever key in the keycode box and sven figures out what the code is. I agree it's not obvious that this is the case.

Pete22 wrote:

Internet install was a breeze because I knew the name of my system and the password. Is there a way to help people who don’t know this info?

Not that I know of.

Pete22 wrote:

pupX set properties of X. What is X? How is that different than windows tweaks?

Pupx is gone in 007.

Pete22 wrote:

did this puppy automatically set up a firewall or not? I found a place and set one up, but I still don’t see a place where I can tell if it is on.

It does not set one up automatically. In my opinion the firewall is not usually necessary and requires a fairly high level of expertise to configure and monitor correctly. I'll think about an applet but I think it just adds unneeded junk to the tray.

Pete22 wrote:

adobe flash player preferences: I would put update on the first page or on its own page near the front instead of on the advanced page.

Does this mean the user has to remember to update flash player occasionally. If so, could puppy somehow remind user to check for updates for this any other software n a regular schedule?

Does storage mean keeping cookies? or is this something else?



Flash is not open source so there's really not anything about it that I can change. You don't really have to update it unless your favorite websites tell you that your flash is too old. I think about an updater though.

Pete22 wrote:

Two workspaces as a default is not a good idea for average window users. The task bar buttons are not self explanitory. The setting to allow the the mouse wheel to switch workspaces as a default is also an issue. If a user accidently hits one of these, they’ll believe that they lost all their work. They would be clueless of how to remedy the situation. On the other hand it's really easy for geeks to add more screens using the application listed on the control panel menu, as well as set the windows manager tweak to use the mouse wheel to switch workspaces.

Windows shortcuts and other tweaks that deal with workspaces: Could they all be hidden if puppy was only using one workspace? If more workspaces are added puppy could then automatically reveal all the tweaks and shortcuts to work with them.

Agreed. Changing to one workspace only will probably fix the hotkey problem.

Pete22 wrote:

I tried to download a seamoney that was not a suite but I got the mail, news, address book and the composer anyway. Is there a way to only get a browser? I just opened seamonkey and there is a home page for Sakuki. What a suprise since there was no browser installed.

It would be nice if there was a link to the Saluki discussion at the forum for more info.

I go to the forum and click on puppy projects and seamonkey closes. I finally got it open by right clicking and selecting open in a new tab. Had to do the same on all the pages at the forum today. If I have to press a button the browser closes too. Makes it hard to be in the forum.


I'm going to need a few more releases before I have time to stock the repository with decent stuff.
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jan 2012, 00:10    Post subject:  

Quote:
Automouting is pretty dangerous on Puppy. First it gives windows users the idea that it's ok to not unmount, like it is on windows. If you do that in linux, you absolutely will lose data. Secondly, having the drives that you are not using unmounted prevents them from getting damaged, either by the user doing something dumb or by something going wrong with the software.


First time I have heard an explanation of WHY we mount and unmount
That makes sense. Many thanks
Wiki updated . . . but will need more editing if anyone has the time?
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Saluki

Are Sneaky or Icyos about and able to do a video on this (or is it too early)?

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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jan 2012, 00:54    Post subject: sucessfull 006 to 007 update  

Updated my much modified 006 save file with the 007 iso files (frugal install to a CF card). Theme and Dropline Neu-blue icons all ok. Panel contents and settings intact. Dealt gracefully with Pfind and xarchiver I had installed from pets and kind of deliberately didn't strip out first. Wireless intact. Overwrote one background I had in the /usr/share/backgrounds directory and I had to reenter one line in the .xinitrc file. I pass the parameter vblank_mode=0 to xfwm4 there. Setting that environmental parameter makes the i915 driver play much better with glxgears. Haven't tried googleearth yet to see how the acceleration really is.

Somewhere along the line, installed galculator and stripped out what was left of Xcalc. Small and works well.

Pretty much resolved my fonts issue in Opera using solely Deja vu Sans for the font, turning on antialiasing and using RGB order but using no hinting. I use Deja vu Sans bold for the system font.

The more I use Saluki, the better I like it. Thunar has a couple of quirks but now has accepted the Neu-blue icon-theme throughout and the custom actions are well worth the admission. I symlinked inode-directory.png in /usr/share/icons/Neu-blue/48x48/mimetypes to the folder.png in the /usr/share/icons/Neu-blue/places. Either that survived the update or if you installed Neu-blue it is now correct in there. Anyway, it works. Thunar seems to be a bit clumsy about falling back if it doesn't find exactly what it wants in mimetypes.

I really think the drive management on the panel is adequate, especially since any mounted drives show up in the side panel in Thunar.

Thanks again for the splendid dog!

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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jan 2012, 02:20    Post subject:  

Fresh manual frugal install of Saluki 007 on my main Linux box.Sound and internet connection working on initial boot.... needed to use xorgwizard to get desired 1440x900 resolution.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Saluki, version 007

Chip description:
oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

Driver used by Xorg:
nouveau

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video

Summary
Computer
Processor AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory 1033MB (164MB used)
Operating System Unknown distribution
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Wed 18 Jan 2012 12:14:23 AM CST
Display
Resolution 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Multimedia
Audio Adapter VIA8233 - VIA 8235
Ethernet controller Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+
Multimedia audio controller VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller
VGA compatible controller nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x]

Display
Resolution 1440x900 pixels
Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Version 1.11.0
Monitors
Monitor 0 1440x900 pixels

OpenGL
Vendor Mesa Project
Renderer Software Rasterizer
Version 2.1 Mesa 7.10.3
Direct Rendering Yes

Looking good.. Smile
No to automounting drives too.
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jan 2012, 03:21    Post subject:  

Got enclosed error message just before xstart (I had clicked the option to run the extra video drivers)
After error message it went into xorgwizard

I tried using Lucid Chromium 15
and Slacko Chromium 18 pets to run a browser but without success.
. . . however flash was installed during the Saluki setup procedure.

Early days. Very different to either Lucid. Slacko or Racy. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jan 2012, 04:27    Post subject:  

jemimah wrote:

Code:
Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
from xorg.conf.

Mavrothol can you see if that is in your xorg.conf?


Yes. is there. I'll check latter if this is the issue.
Though this configuration works with mainstream Fedora and Ubuntu (since 2010) and debian/ubuntu puppy-derivatives.
Even if I inactivated synaptics in the kernel (# CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2_SYNAPTICS is not set), does not fall-back with the racy/saluki synaptics driver as it does with the working synaptics drivers. Confused

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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jan 2012, 05:13    Post subject:  

Few problems: eye-watering default res., wouldn't change using the panel, had to CTRL_ALT_BKSPCE. Difficulties getting sda2 mounted, then it failed to unmount. More problems than previously getting stuff installed either from .sfs or repos. Long detentes in several actions. I know, I know about PPM not being ready, but this makes a default browser even more vital, whatever it is - even Dillo! FF is the only one to load properly with correct Flash at present and FF is riddled with issues.
Otherwise, very nice.
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jan 2012, 05:36    Post subject:  

Sage wrote:
FF is riddled with issues.


Is FF in general riddled regardless of which OS it is on
or is the FF.pet or FF.sfs version for Saluki different from
say a FF for Lupu or Slacko?

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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jan 2012, 05:50    Post subject: MS Windows terms in Saluki
Subject description: Potential copyright issues?
 

I cut a CD of V.006 to run in live mode.

No driver or internet access problems on boot-up. Smile However, none of the desktop items worked, and it refused to shut down, but I assume these are alpha issues.

An interesting project, clearly designed for Windows refugees. Well done so far!

One issue: by using familiar Windows terms such as 'Control Panel', 'My Documents' etc, do you think there could be any potential copyright issues with MS should they choose to care? In these SOPA days you never know...
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jan 2012, 06:09    Post subject:  

minesadorada I think you are on the right track but it is
even worse. To even use a Windows Manager or others such
Graphic User Interfaces (GUI) can be patented.

But usually such only get into legal issues if they feel a competition is strong enough Watch the Patent Wars
among the three big? Apple against Samsung and Microsoft against all others? They would only care if Saluki was on that level?

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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jan 2012, 08:09    Post subject:  

Hi Jemimah

really looks and feels good - and still very snappy on my 10yr old laptop.

Loaded Gatotray2.0.pet - for CPU temp and activity display in panel - works nice.

Loaded dillo, opera and SoftMaker Office SFS’s - on thr fly using sfs loader - very nice.

Loaded Viewnor.pet and so far all seems to be working very well.

Superb presentation - nicely polished - very impressed and much appreciated.

Very best regards - Ray

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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jan 2012, 08:12    Post subject: Right click behaviour  

Hi jemimah

Pristine manual frugal install of 007 on my HP550 laptop.

All looking really good - touchpad ok - pnethood ok - midori ok - pfind welcome back - new look and feel is distinctive and smart.

2 small problems:

how do I change right click behaviour? you now have to hold right button down whilst navigating the menu - is this flsynclient?

mounting might be easier if the logo was more distinct on the panel - grey on grey is not good.

If only there was a way to make the desktop single click.....

Cheers and well done
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jan 2012, 12:02    Post subject:  

Lobster wrote:
Got enclosed error message just before xstart (I had clicked the option to run the extra video drivers)
After error message it went into xorgwizard

I tried using Lucid Chromium 15
and Slacko Chromium 18 pets to run a browser but without success.
. . . however flash was installed during the Saluki setup procedure.

Early days. Very different to either Lucid. Slacko or Racy. Smile


I think I know how to fix this. Stay tuned for a fix.
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jan 2012, 12:56    Post subject: Re: Right click behaviour  

peebee wrote:
Hi jemimah

2 small problems:

how do I change right click behaviour? you now have to hold right button down whilst navigating the menu - is this flsynclient?

mounting might be easier if the logo was more distinct on the panel - grey on grey is not good.

Cheers and well done
peebee


I didn't change the right click behavior on purpose. I think this is a bug of some sort.

If anyone knows of an icon that looks distinctively like a hard drive, even at a small size on a grey panel - please send it my way.
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