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Geoffrey


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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jul 2012, 08:17    Post subject:  

the last saviour wrote:

4. Image list doesn't change wallpaper properly.


It does work, but you need to install a wallpaper changer xfwpcnm-1.0 to use it, though I did find that if installed from the package manager, gamin-0.1.9-486, Psip32-1.3-Saluki and xfce4-4.80 also want to be downloaded, these dependencies are not needed with Saluki 023, it seems there is a bug with the package manager.
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bruceoutdoors

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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jul 2012, 13:30    Post subject:  

You know what I think? if more people knew that there's this saluki puppy, puppy linux would be in the top 5 in distrowatch.

I've always been very particular about my OS, so I'm dead serious when I say that this is by far the best pup I've ever used. When I saw the internet setup(frisbee) I nearly laughed... until I realize - it really is that easy. Media files are played with ease. Even 1080p videos that usually lag playing in a 1 gig ram laptop played smoothly. Love how there's only 1 media player for both music and movies. Keep things simple.

love thunar and xcfe and how it was implemented. Plugging in my external drive took some time to mount and process, but it's so fantabulous compared to ROX I don't give a damn.

Chrome worked really well. Even save me the trouble of needing to get flash player. My only wish is that it could be a newer version so I can sync my bookmarks and passwords.

Finally, something non geeks can enjoy!! Very Happy

all this in 15 minutes. Just giving my 1st impressions. Awesome work Jemimah!
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jul 2012, 13:44    Post subject:  

bruceoutdoors wrote:

Chrome worked really well. Even save me the trouble of needing to get flash player. My only wish is that it could be a newer version so I can sync my bookmarks and passwords.


O my bad, didn't realize you can also sync bookmarks and passwords - it's just not as straight forward as newer versions:

settings>Preferences, under Personal Stuff

and you should see Sync immediately.

In other words, all praise for saluki!!

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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jul 2012, 13:48    Post subject:  

How can I mount and browse an MTP device (specifically Nexus 7)?
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jul 2012, 15:38    Post subject: Jdk 1.6u33 and Nixnote compatibility  

hey all,

I've tested jdk SFS in saluki 023. Seamless, without problems:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=62939

Also tested Nixnote SFS(requires jre), an alternative to Evernote since I LOVE EVERNOTE:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=72716&sid=4740a25f060f518c387a094885510779
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jul 2012, 17:21    Post subject: evernote with saluki  

You can use Evernote with Saluki by installing the Chrome.sfs (and it should also work with the Firefox.pet) Both of these can be accessed via the package manager. Then go to https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/pioclpoplcdbaefihamjohnefbikjilc# and click 'add to chrome' to install (using chrome, of course). It'll give an error message upon install, but give it a minute or so and it will install. On chrome you'll end up with a widget icon on the top-right hand side of the tool bar that you can click on to login to Evernote.
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jul 2012, 17:36    Post subject: distro watch  

bruceoutdoors wrote:
You know what I think? if more people knew that there's this saluki puppy, puppy linux would be in the top 5 in distrowatch.


I think you're right. And the crazy thing about it is that it's still in beta. It hasn't been officially released yet.

If the general public knew what Saluki (and other Puppy's) had to offer in terms of security (live read-only CD/DVD RAM loading), and ease of install (frugal), not to mention speed and great support, if they actually could get a grasp on those concepts, I think they'd see the value of a distro such as Saluki. And let's not forget the tiny size of the OS. Saluki is very user friendly; not hand holding like an average MS user would be used to, but liberating for an advanced MS user. It's not Ubuntu, but at the same time it's not Arch Linux, either. It has a little bit of both, with an interface (Xfce) that should be familiar enough for most MS/Mac users to intuitively figure out with a little bit of effort.

The real plus, and this is the unspoken benefit, is it's modular re-mastering system - the customization via the custom-builder. This sets it apart from the other Puppies. It's a snap to include/remove desired packages from an ISO, and to re-brand the distro if you have the inclination to do so. Saluki is wonderful. IMHO I think it should stand as a model for the next version of Puppy Linux because of the modular design, but that isn't my call. At present my wish is that it eventually reaches the point that it gets an official release. It deserves that much.
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jul 2012, 17:56    Post subject: mount MTP device  

DaveS wrote:
How can I mount and browse an MTP device (specifically Nexus 7)?


If I’m not mistaken, that’s a tablet, right?

I don’t have a tablet, but I do have an android. I installed an app called ‘FTP Server’ on my android (it’s free from the app-market or whatever they call it nowdays). From there I can open ‘gFTP ftp client’ in Saluki from the internet sub-menu, and, after connecting to the wi-fi on the android, I click ‘Start’ from the ‘FTP Server’ app. This gives me an FTP URL. I type that URL into the ‘Host’ entry box in gFTP and click the far left button to connect. I can then transfer files to and from my ‘droid and ‘puter. You can even add a bookmark in gFTP to automate the process for future sessions.

If you don't have an android OS on the tablet, you should be able to duplicate this by adding a FTP server app.

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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jul 2012, 18:04    Post subject: Xfce/Saluki visual menu editing  

rob_0126 wrote:
I am taking saluki for a testdrive now. Is there a way to edit menus like the kde menu editor does, visually thru an updated listbox?


Saluki automatically updates it's menu system, but if you find the need to do manual editing, go to 'Start Button->Control Panel->XMenu Entry Maker'. Xfce has a much better automated menu system than does IceWM or JWM. In most cases you won't need to do any editing. But if you do find the need, the means are there via the 'Control Panel/XMenu Entry Maker'.

If you're looking to remove menu entries, an easier option may be to open the file manager (Thunar) and navigate to /usr/share/applications and rename the *.desktop file that you wish to remove (rename it instead of deleting it so you can reverse the process if needed at a later time).
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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jul 2012, 06:05    Post subject: Re: distro watch  

elroy wrote:
At present my wish is that it eventually reaches the point that it gets an official release. It deserves that much.


Yes... totally!!!

I wish Saluki had been based on Ubuntu binaries!!!

Then we'd have a huge repo to get stuff from.

I know there is Lucid and various Upup derivatives, but I love the integratedness Saluki offers and does deliver.

I do hope in future Upup and Saluki can come together to create the ultimate Puppy.

Anyway, my 2 cents.... Awesome job Jemimah and developers!!! Thanks for this wonderful OS
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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jul 2012, 15:38    Post subject:  

@whoguy

I wish a puppy with

Kernel from pemasu
bulld with roar-ng from Iguleder
the new concepts and Desktop from jemimah

But I do not get it Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jul 2012, 16:19    Post subject:  

deepsea wrote:


I wish a puppy with

Kernel from pemasu
bulld with roar-ng from Iguleder
the new concepts and Desktop from jemimah


Well, as that wise man Meatloaf once sang, "Two out of three ain't bad'. The Saluki Kernel is a pemasu build. And Saluki has the concepts and desktop from jemimah.

Saluki offers a 3.2.8 kernel, and a 3.2.13-pae kernel. They're available here - http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/Saluki/.Using jemimah's custom-builder, you can easily change the kernel when creating a new iso of Saluki (or a custom distro if you choose to go that route).
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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jul 2012, 16:59    Post subject:  

elroy wrote:

The Saluki Kernel is a pemasu build. And Saluki has the concepts and desktop from jemimah.


Yes you're right
I meant it in general
and as the official version. Wink

elroy wrote:

Well, as that wise man Meatloaf once sang, "Two out of three ain't bad'.

I would not say bad, but different.
But different is maybe even exciting
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PostPosted: Sat 21 Jul 2012, 03:24    Post subject: ATI Radeon HD6450 fglrx problems
Subject description: won't build in latest Saluki 023
 

I've just installed Saluki 023. I can't get the proprietary AMD fglrx driver to build and install. I've tried upgrading XORG to 7.6 using the Saluki mega xorg pet, but still no joy. The ATI pet in the Saluki repo doesn't install either. I'm using the devx from Saluki 022 and the kernel sources from K3.2.8-ski.

I can live with the VESA driver but it's slow.

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PostPosted: Sat 21 Jul 2012, 07:09    Post subject:  

deepsea wrote:
I wish a puppy with

Kernel from pemasu
bulld with roar-ng from Iguleder
the new concepts and Desktop from jemimah

But I do not get it Crying or Very sad

No.
The way I understand an "official" puppy must use Woof2, so roar-ng is out.
Saluki used originally an old woof and AFAIK Jemimah never "woofyfied" her changes nor published her build system (if it exists as such). So Jemimah's changes are also out.
Kernel is flexible in "official" puppies, so we are good there but is still hard for any "official" puppy to fulfill your wishes.
But what's wrong with the non-official ones? Wink

The real problem however, is who is/are going to build, and consistently support, the next official puppy. Most of the active developers are working on ARM on development boards so will be ready if ARM laptops/desktops catch up with the public or maybe eventually outperform Google's android and Apple's iOS on touchscreen devices.
For the last few months or so there is no "official" x86 puppy in development (except maybe the slow Slacko update) and no developer(s) had shown any interest picking up PrecisePup after Pemasu and Barry K. went other ways.
Who knows maybe is the summer break (or heavy winter under Razz )

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