Saluki

[Tman]

James,

Where did you get the 3.10 kernel from? Is it Pemasu's compile?

[James C]

James,

Where did you get the 3.10 kernel from? Is it Pemasu's compile?

Yes, I used Pemasu's kernel compile.It works great and it's well tested. No sense reinventing the wheel.

[l2ulinux]

I downloaded Saluki 002 and burn to CD. Booted with no problem, ran with no problem and everything went well. It ran great.
Misc
Uptime 11 hours, 16 minutes
Load Average 0.01, 0.02, 0.05

I saved to CD because I always save and then reboot to see if everything saved OK.
Input Devices:
Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000
Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse
Mouse works great but keyboard will not work.

I rebooted without running the save file and it works great. I am running it now to write this.

[pacer106]

I toned down the brightness.


saluki9-1366x768 by J. P. Stunna, on Flickr


saluki9-1024x768 by J. P. Stunna, on Flickr

[MinHundHettePerro]

I toned down the brightness

Stunning! (In actual use, the previous ones would've hurt my eyes, I reckon.)
Cheers /MHHP

[nancy reagan]

Hi Pacer,

Wouldn't it be more practical to start a separate topic for the Saluki eyecandy ?

Then you have them at one glance and besides it does not take so much room of the more technical details.

Like your wallpapers, though -at least my opinion - prefer a more smooth background without the waferpattern. But then again that is my personal experience.

Keep up the good work.

[jim3630]

Whilst we await the return of Tman and Luki 003, someone might like to try the new Libreoffice SFS in Saluki . . .
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02619

crashed couple of times shutting down to X but able to restart puppy with "xwin." opening the document chose yes to save crash report but can not find one. did get a mention or error in xerrs.log. ?lack of java. remove phony gz to see report.

[rjbrewer]

Hi Tman & jemimah:
To PAE or not to PAE: Racy or Quirky?

mikesir
Jemimah and I have already agreed that a non-PAE build is the way to go. The next step would be to compile the new kernel. Jemimah could do this, but it would save us time if we could get someone else to build a kernel for us.

An interesting thread on switching kernels that may be of
use to us that can't use a PAE kernel.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=60180

[Billtoo]

Jemimah and I have already agreed that a non-PAE build is the way to go. The next step would be to compile the new kernel. Jemimah could do this, but it would save us time if we could get someone else to build a kernel for us.

The luki-0.0.2 release is a keeper.
I look forward to trying out any future releases no matter what
kernel is used.
Thanks

[jemimah]

James,

Where did you get the 3.10 kernel from? Is it Pemasu's compile?

Yes, I used Pemasu's kernel compile.It works great and it's well tested. No sense reinventing the wheel.

I think Pemasu has a non-PAE kernel somewhere. I'd prefer to collaborate on this since if we can agree on a kernel, we can share drivers. It's less work for everyone.

Try the one here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=71755

[James C]

James,

Where did you get the 3.10 kernel from? Is it Pemasu's compile?

Yes, I used Pemasu's kernel compile.It works great and it's well tested. No sense reinventing the wheel.

I think Pemasu has a non-PAE kernel somewhere. I'd prefer to collaborate on this since if we can agree on a kernel, we can share drivers. It's less work for everyone.

Try the one here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=71755

That's the exact kernel I used, non-PAE,SMP-enabled.It's dual-core optimized but works fine on every cpu I've tried.
If you couldn't tell, prior experience has made me rather anti-PAE.

[James C]

Hi Tman & jemimah:
To PAE or not to PAE: Racy or Quirky?

mikesir
Jemimah and I have already agreed that a non-PAE build is the way to go. The next step would be to compile the new kernel. Jemimah could do this, but it would save us time if we could get someone else to build a kernel for us.

An interesting thread on switching kernels that may be of
use to us that can't use a PAE kernel.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=60180

Just a quick comment..... the technique in that thread has problems with some of the newer releases that use a different compression method than the regular,older Puppy releases.Works fine though on the regular compression method files.I tried.... had to resort to the command line.

[bigpup]

From the Puppy users that know just enough to get into trouble.
It is my understanding, that a PAE Kernel is needed for computers, that have more than 4GB of memory. This allows all memory to be seen and used.
Also, newer Linux Kernels do not support some older hardware. A little fuzzy on what hardware that really is.
The newer kernels are needed for really new hardware.
A kernel made two years ago, could not have features, to support hardware, just invented 6 months ago.

Again the question is. What hardware is it going to support?

[James C]

Just for informational purposes, I went ahead and upgraded SeaMonkey to 2.5, while keeping all of ttuuxxx's stuff intact......... appears to be working fine so far.5 hours uptime on this "experiment"...looking good.

[James C]

From the Puppy users that know just enough to get into trouble.
It is my understanding, that a PAE Kernel is needed for computers, that have more than 4GB of memory. This allows all memory to be seen and used.
Also, newer Linux Kernels do not support some older hardware. A little fuzzy on what hardware that really is.
The newer kernels are needed for really new hardware.
A kernel made two years ago, could not have features, to support hardware, just invented 6 months ago.

Again the question is. What hardware is it going to support?

I've tested this 3.10 kernel in some of my old P3's and it works fine.How old is old?
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 090#587090
I do agree with you, there is a lot of misinformation about PAE in this forum.I kind of take the word of the man who created the kernel though.

[Tman]

From the Puppy users that know just enough to get into trouble.
It is my understanding, that a PAE Kernel is needed for computers, that have more than 4GB of memory. This allows all memory to be seen and used.
Also, newer Linux Kernels do not support some older hardware. A little fuzzy on what hardware that really is.
The newer kernels are needed for really new hardware.
A kernel made two years ago, could not have features, to support hardware, just invented 6 months ago.

Again the question is. What hardware is it going to support?

bigpup,
Saluki will support whatever hardware the newer kernel and Xorg will support. And of course, drivers for newer hardware. I won't pretend that I know all of the details.
As for PAE, chances are in Puppy, you won't use anything beyond the 4GB limit, weather it is detected or not, and if you ever do; then it would be time to switch to a 64-bit OS.
I don't see how Pemasu would mind, so I've attached part of a post which he has sent me:

To not use PAE kernel is good decision. There are a lot incompatilities with PAE. AMD Sempron cpu does not work with it and there are other non working cpu models more...Pentium 4 might be sometimes sensitive also.
So non PAE is good thing. And if you really need more than 4 Gb RAM with your apps...real 64 bit distro would be better choice anyway....

[James C]

Think I found a bug in the remaster script.

Instead of creating the "puppy-luki._0.0.2.sfs" it is creating a "puppy-luk_0.0.2.sfs" ......missing the "i" in luki resulting in a non-booting iso.

EDIT:

Corrected the name in the sfs (added the missing "i") which solved the problem.

[Lobster]

thanks to Jemimah and tman . . .

. . . News for 003 (ISO not yet out)
now available
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Saluki
and on blog
http://puppysaluki.posterous.com/

. . . you lucky dogs

[Sage]

The luki-0.0.2 release is a keeper.

Agreed. It seems to run on old Durons and PIII s, even when seriously clocked, which is as good a test as you'll find!
Using an Xfce-lookalike panel is a really smart move. Even complete neophytes can use it.
As for the PAE debate, why waste intellectual as well as HW resources on an OS designed to run on skip/dumpster-liberated kit? Complainants using >4Gb RAM strike one as cheapskates trying to avoid the RH subscription. They're on the wrong Forum.

[aarf]