Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

[dawg]

[Puppyt]

@ jemimah and crew,
Earlier today I 'dismembered' the ISO for the key files and did a manual frugal install of Saluki 19, on my Lenovo T60 laptop (dual core, 2GHz with 2GB RAM).
The MD5 checked out fine, but some weird stuff was happening with persistence in Frisbee and panel settings (i.e., I really love multiple workspaces on a lappie). Very strangely, nothing was staying resident despite dozens of reboots/restarts.

Anyway, I love the look battleshooter has given Saluki http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=617582#617582 so I installed cairo-dock (love it!) and Firefox 10 (Saluki) from your repro. I closed the lid to test the ACPI - but I re-opened it too early and got a schizo-screen of flashing rows that only a manual boot would resolve. After a filesystem check on reboot - I now have Frisbee and workspaces PERSISTENT. Yay! Even a (proper) hibernation with lid closure and reopening has everything as it should.
(Not asking for explanations (!) Just stating observations.)

THANK YOU for "Recent Documents" in the menu! (A 'first' in Puppy?) I'm really looking forward to working with Saluki for a very long time [insert loveheart icon here]

[dawg]

One thing I'm missing in Saluki, or rather under its "network status/setup icon" in the tray, is the ability/option to bring the network connection up/down quickly at will, as it is possible in other Puppies.


Edit: Another annoyance / undesired behaviour (AFAIC):
In Thunar: right-click a file -> Gzip. This does make a gzip of the file, but it also deletes the original file afterwards!
One might not want to touch the original file necessarily, other than making a compressed back-up version of it, such as of a file that is currently in use by Puppy (or some app), namely the savefile.

[Sage]

[smokey01]

[mavrothal]

[mavrothal]

Tried to load a couple of homemade SFSs in 019 and I get

[Aitch]

Maybe SFS3/4 problem?

Aitch

[Sage]

[jim3630]

[DaveS]

[aarf]

cant see a need to fork a website. was under the impression that saluki will be released as official puppy. just another in the kennel.
edit:cant (typo)

[l2ulinux]

Still working great.

Operating System

Version

Kernel Linux 3.2.8-ski (i686)
Compiled #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Mar 12 16:42:30 EET 2012
C Library GNU C Library version 2.10.1 (stable)
Default C Compiler Unknown
Distribution Unknown distribution
Current Session
Computer Name puppypc30325
User Name root (root)
Home Directory /root
Desktop Environment XFCE 4
Misc
Uptime 6 hours, 1 minute
Load Average 0.04, 0.04, 0.05

[TTW]

[elroy]

I guess I can see it (a website fork, that is). I mean that if Saluki isn’t a viable candidate for being Puppy 6.0, if it’s considered a fork, it does have the strength (IMHO) to stand on it’s own as a viable distro. I use it exclusively on an everyday basis (heck, my everyday distro is still 017 - very usable - absolutely no complaints). The only 'Puppy-goal' that it doesn't meet, again IMHO, would be 'Puppy will breathe new life into old PCs' - it's targeted for computers five years old or newer. And, as a ex-MS-Windows user/refugee, I find it very usable - I prefer it to Lubuntu, etc. Frugal install is where it’s at (again, IMHO), and if Barry does deem it a fork it needs to live on...somehow. But Jemimah needs some help. She’s expressed that. And I’m sure she has some 'real life’ things that are taking up her time as of late. And questions about SFS’s/PETs that were developed for another version of Puppy not working on Saluki aren’t helping her any; but they do show her what she’s up against if you’re planning on making your distro 'idiot proof’; and no disrespect intended. It’s not your fault if you’ve been using Slacko and you can’t get the same app/pet/sfs to work on Saluki. After all, they’re both Puppy Linux. If you don’t know, you don’t know. Doesn’t make you stupid. Ignorance is not stupidity. Let’s be clear about that fact. But as far as advancing Saluki, if you have expertise in creating/maintaining web sites, you may prove to be a valuable commodity to Jemimah. I know how to code HTML/CSS, but message board/CGI/etc. is not my field of expertise; otherwise, I do have the time and financial resources needed. If financing is an issue Jemimah, please do pm me, and maybe we can come up with something. I believe in Saluki, and I’d like to see it continue regardless whether or not it’s an ‘official’ Puppy release. I do think you’re on to something here.

But if Saluki is to be released as an ‘official Puppy’ I would think that it would be a plus for the Puppy Linux community as a whole. There’s definitely some forward thinking with Saluki; to me, that’s what makes Saluki viable. Obviously there’s going to be some rough water, but that’s to be expected with any knew release. It’s cutting edge, and that’s what makes it so beautiful. It’s unique. As a MS-Windows refugee, the Saluki-Puppy Linux flavor is the easiest Puppy for me to relate to (with an honorable mention to Lucid-Puppy, but that distro is in no way as easy to modify as Saluki is...) that, to me, is what makes Saluki the obvious choice...except for the fact that when you're moving over to the Linux side of things, nothing is obvious. Therefore a new (professional) website may be of great service. Let's face it - ex/current-Windows users are pre-conditioned to simplicity via a dialog. If it isn't spelled out for us in basic terms, whether or not it is good or bad, whether or not it's in our best interest (have to admit, we do have a bit of the lemming in us), we do tend to loose interest and shy away from it very quickly, regardless of the fact that it may have substance. We've been preconditioned to simplicity. Even Ubuntu refugees suffer from this state, albeit to a lesser degree. So, to me, promotion of Saluki is PARAMOUNT to its' success. Saluki can be the biggest/best thing since ice-cream, but if the average user doesn't find it accessible, its' value is mitigated. If this happens, and if it is deemed a fork and not a viable candidate for Puppy 6.0, then it will be relegated to a Puppy niche. To me, that would be a shame. My first Puppy was 3.x, and for myself, Saluki incorporates many things that I desired for Puppy when I first started using it. I guess that's why I feel so strongly about Saluki. Don't get me wrong...every thing new has its' issues...but Saluki, for me, comes closest to representing what I desire in a Puppy distro.

I have a small OS that I can run from a USB/CD/DVD or HD, and can even do a full install if I desire. Not to mention that I have access to a rich repo, all for the cost of my ISP bill...what more could I desire? And, here’s the ultimate catch - I get timely, free IS support regardless how preposterous my question(s) may be. Are you serious? I mean, nothing is perfect, but for me Saluki is pretty much the Cat’s-A**. Here’s a tight distro that on the vast majority of new computers works pretty much right out of the box, with superior IS support. How often do you deal with MS directly and get to talk (forum/pm) with the developer (and for free????). If Saluki isn’t in consideration for Puppy 6.0, if it’s viewed as a fork, then yes, Saluki needs a website of its’ own, someway, somehow.
Saluki may end up just being a niche distro - but regardless, Saluki has value. Jemimahs’ forward thinking should be celebrated. Saluki actually has substance, regardless of whether or not it's done in the 'Puppy way'. I find it usable, and to me, that's the ultimate proof of OS value.

And, at a minimum, to be able to alter the 'adrive'; to include/exclude in a very simple fashion what one wants in their base system; to not recognize the ingenuity of such a leap forward in Puppy, I mean seriously,look on the evidence - bad on them...jemimah has, simply, (because in actuality, it isn't really that difficult, just a different way of looking at it...) created a new reality in regards to Puppy. Saluki is what it is...usable, customizable, accessible. If you have the necessary skill-set, and you believe in Saluki/what jemimah is doing, please step up to the plate.

And for god's sake, be patient. Jemimah is doing this solo. Help her out. If you can answer a forum question, then please do so. Spread the wealth. Regardless of how silly the question may seem to you, it may be pertinent to a newbie. For one, you'll be helping to promote Saluki. For another, you're helping by lightening jemimah's load. Like I said earlier, I'm sure jemimah has other 'real life' adventures at present, and any knowledgeable, accurate help on the forum would be of great service.