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Posted: Mon 28 Nov 2011, 01:19
by Lobster
It's great that you are back!
John is back
Jemimah is back
Bugman is to blame
. . . it is like old times [joyful sobbing] :roll:

Posted: Mon 28 Nov 2011, 01:32
by Tman
ttuuxxx,
Jemimah,


Please see this post. http://puppylinux.info/topic.php?id=35

Not sure if we should use my current build as the base or if I should start the woof build again.

My In-progress stuff for Saluki is -> here.

Posted: Mon 28 Nov 2011, 11:40
by ttuuxxx
Hi Tman I rebuilt Barry's Seamonkey package that racy uses and added adblock, new theme, search engines, etc please use the browser package for your woof builds, it took 1.5 days to make it up.
http://www.smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/Racy/se ... .2-w52.pet

http://www.smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/Racy/se ... _entry.txt

ttuuxxx

Posted: Mon 28 Nov 2011, 13:56
by Aitch
Hi ttuuxxx
You were one of my missed friends

http://puppylinux.info/topic.php?id=103

Aitch :)

Posted: Mon 28 Nov 2011, 14:17
by Ray MK
Hi all

First run - very nice

http://puppylinux.info/topic.php?id=118

Extremely fast

Many thanks and very best regards - Ray

Posted: Mon 28 Nov 2011, 14:26
by jemimah
ttuuxxx wrote:Hi Tman I rebuilt Barry's Seamonkey package that racy uses and added adblock, new theme, search engines, etc please use the browser package for your woof builds, it took 1.5 days to make it up.
http://www.smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/Racy/se ... .2-w52.pet

http://www.smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/Racy/se ... _entry.txt

ttuuxxx
I've got a nearly working static Midori - still need to get ssl working, and figure out which version of webkitgtk is the most stable.

If you want, I can build it with html5 video support, which uses gstreamer. Then we'd pull out all of the multimedia applications and replace with gstreamer-based ones. I think that should save a good amount of size.

We also should decide which other apps shouldn't be included in the woof build - the ones we either want to replace or omit entirely.

Posted: Mon 28 Nov 2011, 14:27
by ttuuxxx
Aitch wrote:Hi ttuuxxx
You were one of my missed friends

http://puppylinux.info/topic.php?id=103

Aitch :)
Cool Aitch Yes you and many others were also missed, I did post a few times on Barry's Blog and also made a quick forum at my website
http://www.ttuuxxx.com/
ttuuxxx

Posted: Mon 28 Nov 2011, 14:42
by ttuuxxx
jemimah wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:Hi Tman I rebuilt Barry's Seamonkey package that racy uses and added adblock, new theme, search engines, etc please use the browser package for your woof builds, it took 1.5 days to make it up.
http://www.smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/Racy/se ... .2-w52.pet

http://www.smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/Racy/se ... _entry.txt

ttuuxxx
I've got a nearly working static Midori - still need to get ssl working, and figure out which version of webkitgtk is the most stable.

If you want, I can build it with html5 video support, which uses gstreamer. Then we'd pull out all of the multimedia applications and replace with gstreamer-based ones. I think that should save a good amount of size.

We also should decide which other apps shouldn't be included in the woof build - the ones we either want to replace or omit entirely.
Are you sure that's the path you want to go? I've never seen Midori being really stable, like will flash work properly on facebook games like cafeworld <-- I play that all the time currently at level 201 :)
The Seamonkey package I repackaged looks and feels a lot like firefox, plus it still has the other features like wysiwyg web page builder etc.
ttuuxxx

Posted: Mon 28 Nov 2011, 16:00
by Sage
Saluki5.2.2alpha.

Interesting. It works - good news. Roll your own browser - good, in principle. Chose FF, pile of ancillary libs missing, couldn't find some, couldn't remember others. Forced to pick SM ! Arrggh. Got Opera11.6beta from there - works! Really need a default like eg Dillo, Midori, w.h.y. or better, a Quickpick chooser panel like Slacko?

Polish: someone mentioned this. Good idea. Suggest starting with the opening panel chooser for locales. So far everyone else has ignored the USA/Perth paradox. Well, although it's a nice touch to defer to Perth as universal defaults, if Jemimah is heavily involved then all Florida would do! Unless we want to get into the GMT/UTC argument? The erratic spin-down of planet Earth is clearly the logical choice rather than some arbitrary value based on fundamental constants/galactic passes, which, of course, eventually gets back to some block of precious metal in the Louvre which is, albeit slowly, evaporating away its surface atoms! C'est la vie.

Posted: Mon 28 Nov 2011, 18:54
by jemimah
ttuuxxx wrote:
Are you sure that's the path you want to go? I've never seen Midori being really stable, like will flash work properly on facebook games like cafeworld <-- I play that all the time currently at level 201 :)
The Seamonkey package I repackaged looks and feels a lot like firefox, plus it still has the other features like wysiwyg web page builder etc.
ttuuxxx
Try it and see. 4.7MB with ssl, inspector, and all plugins.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/jfhpkm

Posted: Mon 28 Nov 2011, 19:18
by sickgut
will this new distro support EeePCs / netbooks like Puppeee/ fluppy did or will this be something unrelated, and if so then will we see a Puppeee/ Fluppy update in the future?

Posted: Mon 28 Nov 2011, 19:25
by Lobster
midori seems OK in Racy (which is more or less the same as Tmans base) 8)

Posted: Mon 28 Nov 2011, 20:07
by jemimah
sickgut wrote:will this new distro support EeePCs / netbooks like Puppeee/ fluppy did or will this be something unrelated, and if so then will we see a Puppeee/ Fluppy update in the future?
I don't intend to heavily customize and patch the kernel specifically for netbooks. I also have stopped work on Puppeee and Fluppy, in favor of getting some of these changes into the mainline if possible.

I do intend to test on the eee and try to only include programs that fit on smallish screens, and to make sure power management is working.

Posted: Mon 28 Nov 2011, 20:09
by jemimah
Lobster wrote:midori seems OK in Racy (which is mre or less the same as Tmans base) 8)
Yes I expect it should work in Wary too, Maybe other pups since I compiled the deps in statically (though it may be picky about gtk version).

Posted: Mon 28 Nov 2011, 20:30
by Aitch
Hi Jemimah

/aside
Good to see you back in the saddle
I don't know if you know about the eeeuser forum issue?

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=73740

or the new/alternate forum?

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=73750

We are hoping to keep the new forum active and useful....different bb software, so slightly different, some say easier to find stuff....early days
thanks

Aitch :)

Posted: Mon 28 Nov 2011, 20:38
by Tman
ttuuxxx wrote:Hi Tman I rebuilt Barry's Seamonkey package that racy uses and added adblock, new theme, search engines, etc please use the browser package for your woof builds, it took 1.5 days to make it up.
http://www.smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/Racy/se ... .2-w52.pet

http://www.smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/Racy/se ... _entry.txt

ttuuxxx
Wow..1.5 days. Thanks very much for your persistence. Before murga went down Jemimah and I were discussing creating a repo for Saluki at smokey01.com. Jemimah is insistent on using Midori, but Seamonkey can definately go into the repository, along with Firefox (my default browser). Plus Midori is small, so it cuts down on the size of the iso. Also, Seamonkey was at version 2.4.1 the last time I checked (they update way tooo fast), but I could probably repackage your Seamonkey with your custom addons..unless you compiled it specifically for Saluki.

Posted: Mon 28 Nov 2011, 20:44
by Ray MK
Hi Jemimah

Posting from saluki-alpha using midori now - absolutely superb.

Good to see what your plans for mainline puppy are.

Thanks for an outstanding compact browser.

Very best regards - Ray

Posted: Mon 28 Nov 2011, 20:53
by Tman
Sage wrote:Saluki5.2.2alpha.

Interesting. It works - good news. Roll your own browser - good, in principle. Chose FF, pile of ancillary libs missing, couldn't find some, couldn't remember others. Forced to pick SM ! Arrggh....
Sage,
If you want a small Internet Apps downloader, I have attached it below:
You can get Flashplayer, Firefox, Seamonkey, Opera and Gnome-Office.
I tested them for SolidPup (Wary-5.1.1 based), so they will be fine in Saluki.
I will probably make it availiable in the 'additional pets' section, but want to improve it first.

Edit: I have made a new version of GetPackage that you can get -> here.

Posted: Mon 28 Nov 2011, 21:02
by James C
FWIW, SeaMonkey is up to 2.5 now.

Posted: Mon 28 Nov 2011, 21:03
by 8-bit
I don't know what I am missing here, but here is what I have found so far.
Installation of Seamonkey 2 and above seems to be missing libjpg.so.8 and even after install, the browser icon does not seem to start it.
I can start it from a terminal with the same command shown in /usr/local/defaultbrowser.

Also, other applications that are missing but have a desktop icon are
write - no abiword
calc - no gnumeric
paint - no mtpaint

I know it is a work in progress, but a small working browser would be good also.

Also, a bit off subject, but the flashing icons above the message window on the forum are distracting as hell and some could blame them for seizures. So not a good addition in my humble opinion.

Additional, Tman and others, Seamonkey when installed is as I stated above. And that was Seamonkey 2.05.