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[elroy]

You go girl! - God, I really do hate that saying. I must be getting old....

An adrive GUI that is actually usable (assuming it'd be GUI driven), and one that is intuitive and user friendly (for both Linux/windows users) would be revolutionary. It'd revolutionize puppy Linux as we know it. It'd effectively obsolete woof (for this fork, anyway. But for future forks, too, if they choose to use this design, and bad on them if they didn't). Seriously, we can't even calculate the possibilities that the proposed adrive concept adds to the equation. The potential is a serious brain--f_uck. In actuality, this is a significant development, not only ti Linux, and specifically, puppy Linux, but in computing in general. Jemimah has created a model, for open source, that should be much admired. Highly compressed, easily modified, and, if she can get a GUI up an running, simple to use and easily modified by the end user. What more could you ask for?

[jemimah]

Well it won't make woof obsolete. You won't be able to update the core, or the kernel with it. You'd still be stuck with xfce.

But it should make it very easy to change up the applications without the complexity of woof or the pitfalls of a remaster.

[elroy]

Alright, fair enough; too much enthusiasm...but even so, it'd be revolutionary. It'd take puppy to the masses. If one could take a minimal build, and add to it whatever they want,or don't want (maybe then just want a simple small frugal install for rescue (ala catman), terminal based...who knows...ask them...) regardless of the window manager (you can always add a window manager so long as xfce4 is not too hard coded into everything..) .and disregard whatever they don't want...in an easy, intuitive, user friendly way, this would be a 7 on a scale of 1 to 10. How could it not be? That's what I desire in a distro The only thing that would make it better is to create a package manager that would natively install slacko/debian repository apps with one click. Seriously, Jemimah, excluding a new Linux core/testing (which/obviously would take some testing), what else would improve upon Saluki? The adrive concept is in-of-itself revolutionary, whether you want to be humble and not acknowledge it or not. It's brilliant. It's what keeps me interested, and if that's the case for me, than that's probably the case for others, too.

[mavrothal]

[jemimah]

Many of the control panel items will not work unless xfce is running. I have no intention of trying to make saluki work with other window managers. There are plenty of jwm puplets to choose from.

[mikeslr]

Hi jemimah & all,

Can xfce's first panel be moved to the top? Maybe I missed how to? I know a second panel can be created and moved to the top, but in the second panel the "notification" plugin is grayed out. Or is "notification" something other than the "gauges" currently found on the bottom-right? [Excluding the partition mount app which I figured out, and the clock for which there's specific provision for adding].
The reason I ask is that I have in mind seeing how Saluki plays on an Asus 701SD where (a) screen space is limited and Xfce's ability to hide panels would be valuable; and (b) I've always had trouble using its touch-pad. My attempts to start an app by clicking a desktop icon frequently results in my just moving the icon someplace else. So having the most frequently used apps on a panel seems like a solution.

mikesLr

[Ray MK]

Hi mikeslr

Menu / Control Panel / desktop / panel

HTH - best regards - Ray

[mavrothal]

[mikeslr]

Hi Jemimah, Ray MK & All,

After my post a couple posts back it occurred to me that Saluki, being for "more powerful" computers, might not be so great on my Asus 701SD. So I moved the puppy boot files on an 8gb USB Key into a directory, copied Saluki's boot files onto it, plugged it into the 701SD and booted. Had to run xorgwizard but otherwise had no problem getting to desktop. I've only tested a couple programs, the one's I'm likely to use while traveling. Abiword ran reasonably quickly. Opera ran well, but youtube under it was a little choppy. Mini-TV was a pleasure. FBreader seemed fine. Tomorrow I'll try Calibre. If it runs without a problem I'll have a machine far more usable than my wife's Kindle Fire, without having to plunk down $2H. Well, one of the pleasures of Puppy Linux is bragging rights.

Thanks Ray MK for the info re Xfce panel.

mikesLr

[technosaurus]

you can pretty much always run jwm

Exit to console

Xorg & export DISPLAY=:0 && jwm -display :0
or
Xvesa -screen $WxHxBPP -nolisten tcp & export DISPLAY=:0 && jwm -display :0

if you _want_ anything else to start up with jwm there is a <StartupCommand> tag (it is on my todo list, but you can just add it in .jwmrc-tray for now) my microsaurus version only uses ~3Mb RAM total with Xvesa, jwm and rxvt all up and running

Edit ... thanks for reminding me about the %* in the desktop files - thats an easy fix

[Lobster]

I am running from DVD

When I shutdown
the DVD player opens - not something I want and not normal behaviour for a Puppy
I have about 10 seconds to close the player by button, if not I must do it manually . . .
Anyone else get this?

. . . and now for something completely different . . .
I spent at least a week using JWM in preference to XFCE (which I am not as familiar with)
in versions 010 and 011 of Saluki

I am now happier using XFCE and have not needed to resort to running JWM . . . so far . . .

Why did I prefer JWM for so long?
For various reasons, including being able to run a file by dragging from ROX to an on screen icon
I believe that as we move to touch screens and tablets we will need more on screen touchable icons . . .
. . . however that is another issue . . .
I also like having my media display and be mountable from the desktop

This time I have been dragging icons from the menus
to the desktop as I need them
Have I been Salukied?
Thanks Jemimah, Thanks guys

Puppy Linux
Born to run free

[nooby]

[smokey01]

[mavrothal]

[Lobster]