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#1111 Post by gcmartin »

jemimah wrote:New SFS files:
goo... ... ...bird

New pets:
file... ... ...vpn
Is there any chance of a current jre which survives over a reboot of a multi-session Live media? (I think all understand the need) A PET would be the preference.

Also, check PM

Thanks in advance

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#1112 Post by Geoffrey »

gcmartin wrote:
jemimah wrote:New SFS files:
goo... ... ...bird

New pets:
file... ... ...vpn
Is there any chance of a current jre which survives over a reboot of a multi-session Live media? (I think all understand the need) A PET would be the preference.

Thanks in advance
The jre-1.6u30-i586.sfs is compatible with the LibreOffice3.4.5.sfs, I've tried jre-1.7u2-i586.sfs and it doesn't work with it, it might be just as easy to convert the jre-1.6u30-i586.sfs into a PET.

I just tried SFS_Installer-1.0-430.pet from Here, seems to work ok, I installed xaralx-1785.sfs and uninstalled it with the package manager.

I did notice that it leaves empty directories when uninstalling, it must not be making a proper pet package so install only if making a remaster should be ok.

It might be easier to just extract the sfs and use dir2pet.

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#1113 Post by futwerk »

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#1114 Post by scsijon »

Geoffrey wrote:
I did notice that it leaves empty directories when uninstalling, it must not be making a proper pet package so install only if making a remaster should be ok.
This is happening in a number of cases lately, not just Saluki and not just with sfs's, so I did a bit of testing and searching.

With pet's, i've found it most prevalent when installing but not using the ppm to install with, and then uninstalling with the ppm. I was wondering if it was because 'something' was in use by a process until restart/reboot, i've even found local temp directories (not /tmp/xxxx) have been left behind. Plus quite a few times the menu icons are also still there.

With sfs's, so far it seems to always be process related, some directories are gone, but directories related and down to a process's start file are still there. Maybe there needs to be a cleanup script to run after restart added to sort the problem out.

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scsijon
ps, notice that the glade Interface designer icon is missing in the dev sfs, :lol: everyone seems to be doing it!

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#1115 Post by jpeps »

scsijon wrote:
Geoffrey wrote:
This is happening in a number of cases lately, not just Saluki and not just with sfs's, so I did a bit of testing and searching.
The uninstaller leaves a lot, including open directories. If concerned, it's simple to write your own uninstaller. Mine checks for open directories and prompts me prior to removing. I guess it tends to be ultra conservative about removing anything, which might be wise for public use.

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#1116 Post by scsijon »

Sage wrote:Anyone for Eudora?!
Just for kicks tried to install a FULL onto a regular IDE HD mounted in a (trans)portable USB box. Removed drive and tried to boot from a regualr setup (initially because most older boards cannot do an USB boot). It sort of worked, files, etc, even started to boot with some strange messages but eventually KP. Didn't expect anything better, but adds to the Dept of Useless Info.
If you want it, i'll build it, however if your using Firefox past version 4, it will fail to send anything as, by default, it hasn't been designed to work with the later mozilla and thunderbird libs.

bty, Eudora OSE 1.0 was the last as far as Qualcomm was concerned, and is really only a Thunderbird front end with a few tweeks. It was announced back in 2006!

Any later updating is just Thunderbird updates, however by doing so you can loose special features like the old "Transfer" menu, which worked because of a mozilla problem that was fixed with ff5.

Recomendation is to use Thunderbird, even from the Eudora group or go back to Eudora7 (pre-oss)!

If there is enough yells, i'll have a go at 'melding' it to Thunderbird 9.0.1, but it won't be this month as i'll have to find and un-archive it all, then work out what to interface to what. You will have to install both packages.

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#1117 Post by Sage »

If you want it
Indeed. Gone right off Mozzy Corp. They didn't deserve the free gift of Eudora. Never used Tbird, always gave me grief. As for FF, still haven't found the correct settings to get Distrowatch. Already told why I hate SM from Moz. Can't trust this behemoth. Even BK noticed their duplicity. Shame, bearing in mind their gestation from Netscape. Eudora 7 was for 'doze and was uttery reliable, flexible, etc. but no plans to go back there! So, I'll go with angel's Midori & Claws. If anyone is kind enough to do a Saluki Eudora OSE 1.0, that'd be welcome for the front end alone. Only the Webster's rankles then.

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Hints and tips

#1119 Post by einar »

Thanks to Billtoo i got my ATi drivers to work :) And this got me thinking, would it not be nice to have a document with all the tips & tricks from this thread ? It is now 75 pages long and i found out how to install ATi drivers from Billtoo on page 60. It does not have to be a full FAQ just a text document with how to install ATi / Nvidia drivers, make a SFS into a .pet, how to comile a .tar etc. I and i think other noobs would love that :)

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#1120 Post by Lobster »

i think other noobs would love that
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/SalukiTips
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#1121 Post by einar »

Lobster wrote:
i think other noobs would love that
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/SalukiTips
nice one but dont forget the kernel source that i did :) check the updated post from Billtoo :)

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#1122 Post by Lobster »

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Let me know when a pet is available. For now I have created a link on the tips page. I Just do not have the patience to follow this procedure . . .
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#1123 Post by einar »

Lobster wrote:Image

Let me know when a pet is available. For now I have created a link on the tips page. I Just do not have the patience to follow this procedure . . .


the kernel source is here : http://smokey01.com/pemasu/Saluki/kerne ... atched.sfs

and by the way on http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Saluki the extra pet button links to the old saluki pet place. the new one is: http://www.smokey01.com/saluki/pet_packages-saluki/

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#1124 Post by shelezyaka »

There is a problem.
We have chip-adapter PCI -> PCIMCIA name Ricoh RL5c475.For it's working we need core module "yenta_socket.ko"
wich is absent in standart destribution.Whese can we get it and how can we makeit to work.
I checed Saluki-011 and 009.Add in please in future destribution.3G modem inserted in PCIMCIA slot is not working.

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#1125 Post by jemimah »

futwerk wrote:Even saluki will be enjoying St-Valentine's day. Happy Valentine everyone.
Awesome! Thanks.

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#1126 Post by jemimah »

shelezyaka wrote:There is a problem.
We have chip-adapter PCI -> PCIMCIA name Ricoh RL5c475.For it's working we need core module "yenta_socket.ko"
wich is absent in standart destribution.Whese can we get it and how can we makeit to work.
I checed Saluki-011 and 009.Add in please in future destribution.3G modem inserted in PCIMCIA slot is not working.
Yenta_socket is there. Check in the bootmanager. What makes you think it's not there?

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#1127 Post by jemimah »

mavrothal wrote:
jemimah wrote:New SFS files:
xz compression in the SFSs brakes possible backwards compatibility (older kernels) and taxes the CPU of older hardware with minimal bandwidth/size gains.
May be could be avoided.
My understanding is that xz decompression is easier on the cpu than gzip. (It's compression that is slower). Can you find any documentation that states otherwise?

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#1128 Post by mavrothal »

jemimah wrote:
mavrothal wrote:
jemimah wrote:New SFS files:
xz compression in the SFSs brakes possible backwards compatibility (older kernels) and taxes the CPU of older hardware with minimal bandwidth/size gains.
May be could be avoided.
My understanding is that xz decompression is easier on the cpu than gzip. (It's compression that is slower). Can you find any documentation that states otherwise?
here is a rather extensive comparison of compression algorithms.
I believe it shows that xz is decompressing twice as fast as bzip2 but half as fast as gzip.
Depending on the xz compression level, xz also requires 4 to 100 times (!) more memory during decompression, compared to gzip.

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#1129 Post by jemimah »

Interesting. Thank you.

However - I'm still stuck on the at&t cut you off at 5GB/month plan. So I'll stick with XZ. It should be fairly straight forward to recompress them if needed.

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#1130 Post by jemimah »

Minitube is now available in the ppm and also bluetooth.

If you want the bluetooth applet to work correctly - first install the fixed hicolor icon theme from here:
http://smokey01.com/saluki/pet_packages ... saluki.pet

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