App to allow "live boot" of an iso on HDD??

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#46 Post by nooby »

Hi there Musher.
I'll still try out some of nooby's grub listings. It would be nice to be able to run say a Mepis or a Ubuntu from iso and have a persistent file.
Not Mepis just now but maybe in future but almost Mepis named AntiX.
I try to find thread.
http://antix.freeforums.org/live-persis ... t3604.html

I guess that would work for frugal on ext2 and ext3 too.
Two guys at AntiX worked on it for years wanting this to work.
Thankfully they achieved it in the end. Good work indeed.

PCLinuxOS have persistence since 2010 but not iso boot?
Not sure but frugal boot on ext3 or ext2 or other linux but not NTFS.

I wish somebody could teach us to get persistence from my
"cheat" booting of LinuxMint and other ubuntu varieties.

http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.ph ... #msg887040

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menuentry "pclinuxos-phoenix-2012-02.iso" {
recordfail
	insmod ext2
	set root='(hd0,1)'
	search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set xxxxxxx
 linux (hd0,1)/isolinux/vmlinuz root=UUID=xxxxxxx BOOT_IMAGE=LiveCD livecd=livecd initrd=initrd.gz bootfrom=/dev/sda1 changes_dev=/dev/sda1 acpi=on fstab=rw,auto 
 initrd (hd0,1)/isolinux/initrd.gz
 }
AntiX if I remember don't want us to be root?

While PCLOS seems to accept it even if they maybe are against it?
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

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#47 Post by WindUpToy »

"How are you managing to get them for 18c each?"

Actually I bought some yesterday for .16 each from the trash market.
Haven't tried them yet.

Maybe even able to get them cheaper online from China.
Never thought of that before. I'll follow that up.

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#48 Post by greengeek »

WindUpToy wrote: Actually I bought some yesterday for .16 each from the trash market.
Haven't tried them yet.
Dang Australians! Evrything's better over there!

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#49 Post by kooliepup »

Heh heh.

That seems to be the opinion of half your former population who now live here. :)

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#50 Post by WindUpToy »

Haven't found any cheapies from China yet, but came across these while looking.

"People Aren't Buying Blank CDs Any More, So Collection Agency Demands Media Levy Expanded To Mobile Phones"
The plan is to tax mobile phones 100 kronor (about $14), because having the government step in and force people to give you money is, you know, a lot easier than actually having to work for a living.
http://www.techdirt.com/blog/wireless/a ... 0298.shtml
I used to think that Sweden seemed to be a great place,
but after the Julian Assange extradition shonkyness, and numerous other devious happenings, it seems that Sweden is the pits.

On the other hand:
"Australia To Explore Adding Greater Copyright Exceptions"
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201203 ... ions.shtml
Dang Australians! Evrything's better over there!
I wouldn't want to live anywhere else. :)

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#51 Post by greengeek »

Just wanted to add some more links that offer more info about booting isos without burning CDs:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=28913

and options to boot Puppy from Windows:

http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal- ... -as-1-2-3/
and:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=49077

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#52 Post by greengeek »

Another suggestion along the lines of having an "experimental iso" folder in the boot directory:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=297
I need to find a way of automating this process. Will get there eventually - just don't have the scripting skills yet. Workin' on it tho'...

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#53 Post by greengeek »

I haven't gone any further with the Vbox method yet, but when I do, this other post includes some info (link to an online tutorial) which has some basic, useful pointers about setting up a puppy on vbox:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=82492

Direct link to tutorial here:
http://fermatslastspreadsheet.com/2012/ ... or-coding/

gcmartin

Would this be a help on this thread's topic?

#54 Post by gcmartin »

I created this document several months ago. It was inspired in large part by JamesBond for FATDOG booting of an ISO.

Hope it is helpful to those here, for, I envision that it can support booting in a Virtual Machine.

You may comment on that information either there or in the forum.

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Re: Would this be a help on this thread's topic?

#55 Post by jpeps »

gcmartin wrote:I created this document several months ago. It was inspired in large part by JamesBond for FATDOG booting of an ISO.

Hope it is helpful to those here, for, I envision that it can support booting in a Virtual Machine.

You may comment on that information either there or in the forum.

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FAT16 doesn't support drives larger than 2GB, in addition to wasting a lot of space. It was used back in the days before 512MB drives. I don't think you need a permanent document illustrating the errors you received due to incorrect formatting.

re: updated file: Interesting that ext2 didn't work..might have something to do with the bootloader? FAT32 is probably more comportable.

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#56 Post by linuxcbon »

Did you try frugal method from XP ? http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=75257

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#57 Post by greengeek »

linuxcbon wrote:Did you try frugal method from XP ? http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=75257
No, I haven't tried that approach yet. Good info there though for anyone wanting to try puppy from an XP installation, rather than trialling a new puppy from a previous puppy installation. Thanks.

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#58 Post by dk60902 »

I simply do a frugal install onto a USB drive to try out different versions of puppy. I had Puppy dual booting with an WinXP box before, but I sold it. I had a separate Puppy partition on my HD (part 1 WinXP, part 2 Puppy, part 3 swap part 4 (extended partition)) with different folders for various versions of puppy. To try out different puppies, I would create a new folder in the puppy partition, open the iso and copy over the necessary files, and edit my menu.lst. I used Grub4Dos.

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#59 Post by greengeek »

Another possibility:
Les Kerf suggests that Scooby's multiboot method allows dragging a whole iso into a folder and running with it:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=83583

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#60 Post by greengeek »

Scooby also offers a method of achieving the same thing from Windows:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=83560

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#61 Post by greengeek »

Also worth a look:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 179#684179
(Scooby's method compared to Trueriver's method). Both sound good.

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