Slacko Puppy 5.3.1

[TLM]

Hello, Thanks for Slacky. I have always liked Slackware and derivatives. Slacky is working good for me. Is there any way I can get thunar file manager? Not seeing it in any of the repos. Is there a pet?

[James C]

Been running my AntiX/ Macpup P3 tonight so Slacko 5.30 (2.6.37.6) live pfix=ram. Display and internet good on initial boot....audio was muted. Simple enough to unmute though.


VIDEO REPORT: Slacko Puppy, version 5.3

Chip description:
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82815 Chipset Graphics Controller (CGC) (rev 04)

Driver used by Xorg:
intel

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: "" Depth: Depth 24

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video


-Computer-
Processor : Pentium III (Coppermine)
Memory : 512MB (172MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Mon 31 Oct 2011 04:07:23 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ICH - Intel 82801BA-ICH2

Multimedia audio controller : Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio Controller
Ethernet controller : 3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado]
VGA compatible controller : Intel Corporation 82815 Chipset Graphics Controller

# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 512972 496256 16716 0 68700
Swap: 1075196 0 1075196
Total: 1588168 496256 1091912
#

Appears to be working fine.

[jim3630]

01micko

flsynclient not working now. seems odd sure tested b4. clicking closed closes both in pic. get the same in racy.

installed flsynclient-wrapper-20101001.pet but only shows same message on start up, see pic, regardless of reboots.

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new save file pfix=ram flsynclient working. try figure out what broke it.

[Sylvander]

@rcrsn51
Regarding this reply of yours to me:
SUCCESS!
I installed that PET within Slacko-5.3, and it fixed the problem I explained in my post here.

[DaveS]

Hi Mick... I know you said you wanted to 'test Opera to death', so here is a funny little system bug: lets say you have a script attached to a keybinding to do something, typically to launch a browser, it might look something like this:

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<Key keycode="117">exec:defaultbrowser</Key>

, (taken from /root/.jwm/jwmrc-personal), where Seamonkey is the default browser.
Ok, will work just fine. BUT. Load Opera, exit, and the keybinding will no longer work without a re-start of X.
The fix is to de-select 'override window manager control of the pinboard and panels' from rox options Compatibility, but I dont know what implications this may have on other sub-systems.

[ICPUG]

For those having problems with Touchpad settings in flsynclient:

I found to get any decent speed of the pointer I had to set the min and max speed at maximum - With Lupu, a speed of 1.0 was perfectly OK.

Tapping problems.

In addition to having the touchpad mode ON one has to go into the tapping tab.

First set the tap time to something (225 for me)

New to Slacko:

On the top right of the tab there are settings for one finger, two finger, three finger, ...

In Slacko these are diabled.

Make sure you set the top 3 to something. Mine are set to left button, right button, center button.

Only after you do this does tapping work for me.

These settings were already there in Lupu. With Slacko they aren't and have to be made manually.

Any idea why things are different in Slacko, 01Micko? It's not very user friendly.

Edit: to correct what I originally wrote from memory.

[Jasper]

Hi 01micko et al,

Great news from here:

[rcrsn51]

@rcrsn51
Regarding this reply of yours to me:
SUCCESS!

Excellent. Perhaps Mick will update his post here.

[Jim1911]

Over the coming months I am going to rigorously test and abuse Opera, I think it can be made smaller than Seamonkey too. It does have proprietary ties but I will draw attention to pa_mcmlamrock's signature...

I have one serious drawback to using Opera, probably operator error, but I have never been able to save passwords regardless of security settings. Otherwise, I like Opera, I find it, fast with fine features and have had no other problems with it. In the meantime, I will continue to install the latest Firefox(with my prefered search engine) whether Seamonkey or Opera is used as the distribution default browser.

Regards,
Jim

[MoebusNet]

I know that glxgears is not a benchmark, but even so I notice a difference between Lucid 5.28, 3HDv2t2 & Slacko 5.3:

Lucid Puppy 5.28 w/Update 2 RC 2 & Xorg_High

sh-4.1# glxgears
1444 frames in 5.0 seconds
1473 frames in 5.0 seconds
1483 frames in 5.0 seconds
1483 frames in 5.0 seconds
1476 frames in 5.0 seconds
1474 frames in 5.0 seconds

3HDv2t2 w/ Xorg_High

sh-4.1# glxgears
1469 frames in 5.0 seconds
1479 frames in 5.0 seconds
1477 frames in 5.0 seconds
1495 frames in 5.0 seconds
1489 frames in 5.0 seconds
1488 frames in 5.0 seconds

Slacko 5.3 w/mesa-7.10.2-s

# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.197 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.957 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.957 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.957 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.958 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.957 FPS

Did I neglect to do something?

EDIT: corrected mesa xorg extras including gl

[James C]

Jumping into the new browser wars......

In descending order my preferences are 1.) SeaMonkey, 2.) Firefox, 3.) Opera and 4.) doesn't matter...I'll just install the one I want anyway.

[jim3630]

opera doesn't save passwords here either.

[James C]

Over the coming months I am going to rigorously test and abuse Opera, I think it can be made smaller than Seamonkey too. It does have proprietary ties but I will draw attention to pa_mcmlamrock's signature...

I have one serious drawback to using Opera, probably operator error, but I have never been able to save passwords regardless of security settings. Otherwise, I like Opera, I find it, fast with fine features and have had no other problems with it. In the meantime, I will continue to install the latest Firefox(with my prefered search engine) whether Seamonkey or Opera is used as the distribution default browser.

Regards,
Jim

No problem with Opera saving passwords in Slacko 5.30 here.

After saving the password, the next time you attempt to log in, here on the forum for example, the small key icon will appear(see screenie) .....just click the icon.
The user and password boxes remain blank but click on the icon and it logs in.

Posting from Opera 11.52 now... no problems with passwords.

HTH.

[soundNICK]

01micko01

good news and bad news... the good news is, Ive tried both 2.95 and 3
slacko-s. Other good news is, after a huge number of packages broke
in RC, all this was apparently fixed in 3... so... with lots of other
fixes, 3 was a real improvement - in example, printing worked in 5.3
with a nice link to a how-to.

Now the less good news, which is... having loaded my standard
10 applications, which all worked after loading, these began to
break as I loaded the remainder.

Gimp stayed for the ride, as did XPaint.
Inkscape-48 died... Acrobat reader died... scribus died...
the special vlc-for-slacko worked for a while, then it too died, and
it is then I gave up(!).

While these may be non-standard apps for some people, they are a
bread and butter installation for me.

The problem seems to be [file conflicts]... while one loaded file works
fine, whichever app is installed first seems to determine what can
or cannot be installed after it... dont know if this tells you
anything useful.

my best to you

soundNICK

.

[Jim1911]

I have one serious drawback to using Opera, probably operator error, but I have never been able to save passwords regardless of security settings. Otherwise, I like Opera, I find it, fast with fine features and have had no other problems with it....

After saving the password, the next time you attempt to log in, here on the forum for example, the small key icon will appear(see screenie) .....just click the icon.
The user and password boxes remain blank but click on the icon and it logs in.

Posting from Opera 11.52 now... no problems with passwords.

HTH.

Thanks, I knew it had to be something simple, maybe now I can appreciate Opera more.

Regards,
Jim

[DaveS]

Is there a goggles package for Slacko?

[otropogo]

Have just downloaded and burned Slacko_5.3-Main.

I verified the iso with md5sum. I burned with burniso2cd a 4x speed and verified the burn. I then rebooted without touching the CD on my
Intel D865GLC desktop system.

Everything I tried worked, including my 3TB Goflex drive partitioned down to 2TB ntfs (on the USB2 port), which mounted without errors, and to which I was able to write without issues.

Display was good at the probe-suggested resolution of 1024x768, and also at my prefered 1600x1200. I was able to use the wallpaper manager and insert my prefered Puppy 4.0 image. And the pmount preferences tab worked normally.

Internet autoconfigured, and Seamonkey worked, as did the firewall. I made the personal configuration adjustments, and then rebooted, choosing an unencrypted 2fs 512MB savefile on a fat32 partition, and allowing the sfs file to be written to the hdd.

When the system rebooted, I got the following frozen display:

Loading personal file /slackosave_y01.2fs (sdb2)
Loading the 'puppy_slacko_5.3.sfs' main file...copying to ram
Performing a 'switch _root' to the layered filesystem...Kernel panic-not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
Pid: 1,comm: switch root Not tainted 2.6.37.6 #1
Call Trace:
[<c12a2998>]? panic+0x4d/0x130
[<c1029179>]? do_exit+0x5a/0x59d
[<c1029868>]? do_group_exit+0x0/0x7b
[<c12a48a5>]? syscall_call+0x7/0xb

The keyboard was locked with flashing LEDs, CTL-ALT-DEL nonfunctional, and I had to hard reset.

I rebooted with pfix=ram, everything worked well again, and this time I left the display resolution at the original 1024x768, increased the savefile size to 1GB, and placed it on another fat32 partition on a different hard drive (sda3).

rebooting with this savefile produced exactly the same results as with the previous one.

Finally, I tried rebooting with the 32MB 2fs savefile previously created by slacko 5.29.6, it also failed with the same text display, except that the test was preceded by the lines:

EXT2-fs (loop1): error: ext2-lookup: deleted inode referenced: 2xx

An attempt to boot with the 5.29.6 3fs file also failed. So far I've booted the LiveCD three times fresh, and each boot ran without a hitch. I've booted it four times using a slacko savefile, and each of those attempts locked up the system. I haven't removed the CD from the drive yet, and the attempts were interspersed, so a scratch can't explain the differing results, nor can a corruption of the iso.

Hope this helps. Unfortunately your effort and mine are useless to me as things stand.

[otropogo]

Have just downloaded and burned Slacko_5.3-Main.

I verified the iso with md5sum. I burned with burniso2cd a 4x speed and verified the burn. I then rebooted without touching the CD on my
Intel D865GLC desktop system.

Everything I tried worked, including my 3TB Goflex drive partitioned down to 2TB ntfs (on the USB2 port), which mounted without errors, and to which I was able to write without issues.

Display was good at the probe-suggested resolution of 1024x768, and also at my prefered 1600x1200. I was able to use the wallpaper manager and insert my prefered Puppy 4.0 image. And the pmount preferences tab worked normally.

Internet autoconfigured, and Seamonkey worked, as did the firewall. I made the personal configuration adjustments, and then rebooted, choosing an unencrypted 2fs 512MB savefile on a fat32 partition, and allowing the sfs file to be written to the hdd.

When the system rebooted, I got the following frozen display:

Loading personal file /slackosave_y01.2fs (sdb2)
Loading the 'puppy_slacko_5.3.sfs' main file...copying to ram
Performing a 'switch _root' to the layered filesystem...Kernel panic-not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
Pid: 1,comm: switch root Not tainted 2.6.37.6 #1
Call Trace:
[<c12a2998>]? panic+0x4d/0x130
[<c1029179>]? do_exit+0x5a/0x59d
[<c1029868>]? do_group_exit+0x0/0x7b
[<c12a48a5>]? syscall_call+0x7/0xb

The keyboard was locked with flashing LEDs, CTL-ALT-DEL nonfunctional, and I had to hard reset.

I rebooted with pfix=ram, everything worked well again, and this time I left the display resolution at the original 1024x768, increased the savefile size to 1GB, and placed it on another fat32 partition on a different hard drive (sda3).

rebooting with this savefile produced exactly the same results as with the previous one.

Finally, I tried rebooting with the 32MB 2fs savefile previously created by slacko 5.29.6, it also failed with the same text display, except that the above-cited text was preceded by the lines:

EXT2-fs (loop1): error: ext2-lookup: deleted inode referenced: 2xx

An attempt to boot with the 5.29.6 3fs file also failed. So far I've booted the LiveCD three times fresh, and each boot ran without a hitch. I've booted it four times using a slacko savefile, and each of those attempts locked up the system. I haven't removed the CD from the drive yet, and the attempts were interspersed, so a scratch can't explain the differing results, nor can a corruption of the iso.

Hope this helps. Unfortunately your effort and mine are useless to me as things stand.

PS. I'm posting this with Slacko 5.3 loaded with

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pfix-ram

[rcrsn51]

Delete the sfs file from the hard drive. Make sure that you look on all the partitions, so that Puppy is not finding a corrupted version somewhere.

Reboot. Puppy will get the sfs file off the CD but use the savefile off the hard drive. Does that work any better?

I duplicated your procedure.

1. I booted off the Slacko CD.
2. I saved both the sfs file and the save file to a vfat partition.
3. I rebooted.

Puppy found both files and loaded properly.

[otropogo]

Delete the sfs file from the hard drive. Make sure that you look on all the partitions, so that Puppy is not finding a corrupted version somewhere.

Reboot. Puppy will get the sfs file off the CD but use the savefile off the hard drive. Does that work any better?

I duplicated your procedure.

1. I booted off the Slacko CD.
2. I saved both the sfs file and the save file to a vfat partition.
3. I rebooted.

Puppy found both files and loaded properly.

I was just trying your previous suggestion before logging in last time. It hadn't worked, but I thought I might have missed a copy of the sfs file. So I went back and tried searching with pfind. Pfind, unfortunately, is not working properly. It found one "puppy_slacko" that time, and I deleted it. I also deleted all but the last slackosave file.

I then rebooted, expecting to either crash again or to open with my remaining slackosave. Neither happened, instead, I had yet another uneventful fresh boot. When I looked at the slackosave file, it was corrupted - showing a Yellow triangle with an exclamation mark. I can't delete or rename it. And since I don't have Windows on my system, I can't fix it with chkdsk. Happily, the partition is not locked, and I can still write to it.

I then looked for any other puppy_slacko sfs files, and found that from 5.2.9 (pfind couldn't locate it using the "search all files" option, and with all partitions mounted, just as it can't locate the 5.3 version sitting in my home partition right now).

After deleting the 5.2.9 sfs, I reconfigured, created a new save file, then meant to decline the "save sfs" option, but accidentally brushed the keyboard (I think that's what happened, and the sfs file was saved to the hdd after all (a fat32 hdd partition, the one all my other puppy 2fs and sfs files run off).

And now the system booted fine. I rebooted just to be sure, and had my second success.

So, the culprit appears to have been th puppy_slacko_5.2.9.sfs file all along.

Any idea how I can delete the corrupted slackosave files from my two hard drives with a Puppy app?

PS> the two corrupted files are on different hard drives, one was created by slacko 5.2.9, the other by 5.3, but both are on ntfs partitions. None of the slackosave files written to fat32 have become undeletable.