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#76 Post by Iguleder »

First of all, just to clarify - Guy Dog doesn't ship with ndiswrapper, so don't say it doesn't work well if you don't even have it :lol:

Before you report a bug, check the facts.
8-bit wrote:The problem there was that when I started Puppy Package Manager, I had no files displayed.
Run the update ... with an internet connection. If something with PPM fails - it's an upstream issue in Woof.
8-bit wrote:I would still have liked a regular menu along with the desktop right click one.
The right name is "JWM's menu".
I never did find the application for finding files on the system in the menu either.
Known issue with Searchmonkey, I'm investigating this at the moment.
8-bit wrote:And... I also had problems with no desktop displayed until I ran xorgwizard and selected visa.
Same, checking it out.
8-bit wrote:Also, I had a black screen for desktop until I clicked on the initial splash message that displayed at the top of the screen. Is that by design?
Yep, by design. Another Woof issue.
8-bit wrote:I also did not like not having a desktop background that did not look like something from WinXP.
If you hate having a desktop background different from the one in XP ... you want me to put XP's wallpaper in Puppy and ilegally distribute it?
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#77 Post by 8-bit »

No, I actually did not get across what I meant about the wallpaper.
I thought the one in GuyDog looked like the WinXP one and would have preferred it to be something else.
Also, I did not realize I had no internet connection when I clicked Update in Puppy Package Manager.
I know that the problem was that the code in Puppy Package Manager Update should check for a valid working internet connection and abort with a message rather than trying to create some files that end up empty and bork the restarting of Puppy Package Manager.

I point these things out and I am not trying to knock your great derivative. I am only trying to point out things that I think would help in bettering it.
So, to clairify, if I am setting at a prompt outside of X, what do I type to get JWM?
I was used to just typing "xwin jwm".

EDIT: I did not need ndiswrapper, And I assumed wrongly that an internet connection through my card was already set up.
As a matter of fact, when I did run the internet connection wizard, and used SNS (Simple Network Setup), it found my card fine and gave me a working internet connection.

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#78 Post by Volhout »

Iguleder wrote:If you hate having a desktop background different from the one in XP ... you want me to put XP's wallpaper in Puppy and ilegally distribute it?
Can you explain how I can change the wallpaper ? 8-bit tried to explain het yikes anything that looks like XP, and wants to differentiate from it.

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#79 Post by Iguleder »

/usr/share/default.jpg or /usr/share/default.png.
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#80 Post by pacer106 »

I am working on a name based logo for Guy Dog 1 version is featured in the newest backgrounds I posted. Here are the 2 variations I have currently but looking to add a pup logo somehow. The black you see is not actually there.

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newlogo1-524x383 by J. P. Stunna, on Flickr

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newlogo-453x319 by J. P. Stunna, on Flickr

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#81 Post by 8-bit »

Iguleder wrote:/usr/share/default.jpg or /usr/share/default.png.
And here I thought it was /usr/share/backgrounds/default.jpg or /usr/share/backgrounds/default.png.

Oh well.

To change wallpaper, you would copy a new background jpg/png file to /usr/share/backgrounds as default.png or default.jpg.
If you like the current backgound image, be sure to copy it elsewhere first to keep it.

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#82 Post by Iguleder »

Oops, a hurried mistake. I just got home, answering your question was the first thing I did :lol:

It's /usr/share/backogrounds/default.*.

EDIT: I found the cause for the NVIDIA issue! Try to install this package (usr /usr/local/petget/installpkg.sh :wink:), then run xorgwizard.
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#83 Post by pacer106 »

Here is my idea for a name based logo. The 1st one is the main base. The rest are ready to go & have variations in size.

The black you see should be transparent when downloaded.

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gdlogo3-425x307 by J. P. Stunna, on Flickr

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gdlogo3-312x223 by J. P. Stunna, on Flickr

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#84 Post by Iguleder »

FML! The new driver doesn't work either, for some unknown reason - it complains about some missing function, although it was built on Guy Dog, which makes it pretty much impossible.

I think we should roll back to the Squeeze X and stop using the backported one - this means X 7.5, very similar to the one from Lucid.
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#85 Post by pacer106 »

Background with a cleaner looking logo.

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#86 Post by pacer106 »

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#87 Post by stu90 »

Im not in Guy Dog right now but regarding wallpaper changer / setter - i think this little script should work.

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#!/bin/sh

IMAGES="/usr/share/backgrounds" 
feh -g 540x380 -d -S filename "$IMAGES" -A "feh --bg-scale /usr/share/backgrounds/%n"
Change the IMAGES= to what ever directory you like - to look though the wallpapers left click on the image or use the <-- and --> arrow keys, to set the wallpaper as background hit enter - or to set with a different scale right click > file > backgrounds.

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#88 Post by Billtoo »

The script works.

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#89 Post by pacer106 »

Yep the script works great :) 1 question though. stu90 are there any other options besides scale & center for setting the background? As can be seen in my screener it squishes the image a bit with scale & of course with center it does not fill whole screen.

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#90 Post by stu90 »

pacer106 wrote:Yep the script works great :) 1 question though. stu90 are there any other options besides scale & center for setting the background? As can be seen in my screener it squishes the image a bit with scale & of course with center it does not fill whole screen.
Hi pacer106,
The options for Feh are - tiled, seamless, scaled, centered.

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#91 Post by pacer106 »

Thanks for the info stu90 & the script :) The other options did not work for me but theres good news gimp 2.7.2.sfs works in guydog :) managed to crop the background so it looks right.

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#92 Post by pacer106 »

Spent a little time tweaking the desktop & this is what I have now.

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#93 Post by Keef »

Before you report a bug, check the facts.
The two included network setup tools (one of which mostly works :lol: ) both offer to try and setup Windows drivers. That tends to require ndiswrapper.
I just clicked the buttons, There'll be menu entries that point to none existent programs next. This is precious finger time I'm wasting. I could be picking my nose, or poking small children in the eye.
Just a thought....

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Stu90's Wallpaper Chooser & XP portables

#94 Post by mikeslr »

Hi iguleder, Stu90 & All,

Thanks Stu90 for the Wallpaper chooser, which works fine. However, I wanted to add it to the menu by creating a desktop file in /usr/share/applications. The technique I generally use is to place a script calling the app in /my-applications/bin and identify that script in the desktop file's exec argument. [As the chooser was already a script, I just placed in in /my.../bin]. I've used this technique with several applications for example, opera unpacked to /mnt/home. Some worked, such as opera. Some didn't, such as the Wallpaper chooser. Except as noted below, with regard to those which failed, clicking the script in /my-applications/bin would start the app; while clicking the desktop file in /usr/share/applications wouldn't. Perhaps it's one of the quirks of emelfm2 I don't understand. [The desktop files would not start their respective applications even when permissions were changed to executable by all].
The exception are programs to run under wine. I was able to install Greendome's 1.3.28 pet, and using either wine's task manager or progman "install" an XP program, and thereafter create a functional menu entry via the above technique. But I was unable to configure emelfm2 to recognize the file ending "exe" as something to be opened with wine. Neither was I able to find any way to "install" a portable program under wine. Consequently, in order to run them I had to start wine's task manager and browse to the executable each time.
So I am compelled to ask the questions. It's not that I don't appreciate iguleder's efforts to explore other possibilities. Indeed, I believe they are essential if puppy is to remain both light-weight and functional. And its been (what?) eight years since Barry K decided for some reason on Rox-filer as his file manager of choice. 8 years in computer development, especially Linux development, is an eternity. But how much space is saved by using emelfm2 rather than rox-filer? And what are the advantages & disadvantages each has respecting the other?

Respectfully,

mikesLr

Edit: After a refreshing night's sleep, I seem to be more clear headed and adventurous. It occurred to me that it is "early days" in our exploration of emelfm2: that solutions for some of its quirks have already been found. And Guy Dog, using emelfm2, appears to be much more responsive than Rox-filer. So let's press on.
In any event, the more important challenge to overcome is the difficulty some of us have encountered in the conflict between Guy Dog and our Graphics Cards.
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Bug in xorgwizard?

#95 Post by superchook »

During the X setup I select in turn <probe>, <Test> and <Test_X_Now>.
X does not start and eventually I am returned to <FINISHED>
If I select <Tweak>, <Tweak_xorg.conf> and <Edit_xorg.conf> a dialogue appears which tells me that selecting <OK> will open the editor but instead it returns me to <Test_X_Now>. The VESA driver works OK.

I have noticed this bug in some other puplets.

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