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Panasonic laptop won't boot, says Invalid System Disk
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Riano

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PostPosted: Sun 25 Sep 2011, 09:06    Post subject:  Panasonic laptop won't boot, says Invalid System Disk
Subject description: How can I boot Puppy?
 

Hi everyone!

I want to use Puppy on a (seemingly) broken Panasonic CF-25 from the 90s. It no longer has the floppy drive, and I'm not sure if it can boot from a CD drive. And besides that, it also doesn't boot to any operating system. It just boots up and says that it's loading a hibernation file, then it says:

"Invalid system disk
Replace the disk, and then press any key"

What do I need to do? The CDs seemed to be read, because I hear it moving around, but nothing happens. And I can't find how to change the boot order.

This was my dad's old computer. He said he messed it up when trying to put Windows 98 on it.
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darkcity


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PostPosted: Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:21    Post subject:  

you need to enter the BIOS settings

more info here
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/BIOS

possible key combos to get to bios here
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/TableOfBIOSKeys

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Semme

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PostPosted: Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:58    Post subject:  

Welcome Riano. With the floppy gone and nothing usb connected, it's F1 to reach BIOS and change your boot order.
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PostPosted: Sun 25 Sep 2011, 13:47    Post subject:  

Nice 1, Semme, added to the wikki page. Started Wiki table (rather than image) so people can add more.

http://puppylinux.org/wikka/TableOfBIOSKeys

Nice ; -)

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Riano

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PostPosted: Sun 25 Sep 2011, 15:07    Post subject:  

I can't get to the BIOS settings, though. I pressed F1 (multiple times)like Semme said, but it just went on and said, "searching hibernation file," loaded it up and then said "invalid system disk."

My dad seems to think the BIOS is "broken." Is there any way to fix it?
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PostPosted: Sun 25 Sep 2011, 15:35    Post subject:  

Try the manual at http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=4&sqi=2&ved=0CEUQFjAD&url=ftp%3A%2F%2Fftp.panasonic.com%2Fpub%2FPanasonic%2FDrivers%2Fnotebooks%2FCF25%2Feam%2F25m3oso1.pdf&ei=Yn9_To60NoiAhQe9t7E5&usg=AFQjCNESUdbDsYKcEgnNM8vj_r13paUoKw
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PostPosted: Sun 25 Sep 2011, 15:39    Post subject:  

Maybe.. Does this thing go through a memory check before delivering the "invalid system disk" message?

Do we have an exact model number? Tell me too whether there's a usb port on the right side there.

You think your dad would remember why the old drive was removed?
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PostPosted: Sun 25 Sep 2011, 16:29    Post subject:  

It's more than likely the bios (cmos) battery is dead after
all these years.
It will take some work to replace the old one; Laptop
disassembly and soldering in a new one.
If this is a Mark3 cf with 96mb ram it may run a smaller
Puppy, like 4.12 okay.
The easiest way would be to pull the hard drive and use a
more powerful laptop (or pc with adapter) to install Puppy
to the drive.
A swap partition of about 500mb would help.
A full install will boot easier than frugal in this case.

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PostPosted: Sun 25 Sep 2011, 16:43    Post subject:  

Dead after all these years as logic might suggest.
Last edited by Semme on Sun 25 Sep 2011, 18:57; edited 2 times in total
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PostPosted: Sun 25 Sep 2011, 17:08    Post subject:  

Semme wrote:
Dead after all these years as logic might suggest. Still, I'd like to hear from Riano again.


Those cf models did not have usb ports, and there is nothing
in bios screens pertaining to boot options.

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PostPosted: Sun 25 Sep 2011, 18:47    Post subject:  

At this point- I'm with you rjbrewer. With no floppy drive and no ability to alter the boot sequence... "the easiest way would be to pull the hard drive and use a more powerful laptop (or pc with adapter) to install Puppy to the drive." In other words Riano, slave the drive on another box.

If not you or your dad, perhaps your local repair shop could handle this and the battery for a reasonable exchange..
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PostPosted: Sun 25 Sep 2011, 19:29    Post subject:  

If the BIOS offers no way to alter the boot sequence, then the floppy must have been the first boot option by default, followed by the hard disk drive. On the other hand, in his original post Riano seems to say the CD drive appears to be trying to do something. Maybe the CD he's trying to boot from is not burned correctly and that's why he's getting the Invalid System Disk message? Just a thought.... Smile
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PostPosted: Sun 25 Sep 2011, 19:42    Post subject:  

That is a point. If the floppy is missing and the hard drive is either faulty or missing, then it will try to boot from a CD.
That message means it cannot find ANY device to boot from in the whole of the boot sequence

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PostPosted: Sun 25 Sep 2011, 20:49    Post subject:  

If (and only if) it's the Mark 3 version; there is a bios
update available that would allow it to boot from cd.

http://www.jeffborders.com/techdocs/panasonic/cf25.html

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PostPosted: Sun 25 Sep 2011, 22:12    Post subject:  

Correct! I guess asking for a model number then was getting ahead of myself? That's OK.. we'll see if Riano responds...
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If (and only if) it's the Mark 3 version; there is a bios update available that would allow it to boot from cd.
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