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HowTo turn off the darned beeping...
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faifpuhp


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PostPosted: Thu 22 Sep 2011, 20:06    Post subject:  HowTo turn off the darned beeping...
Subject description: Especially but not only with setterm
 

setterm -blength 0 is great for turning off the beep in the real console (VT) but it's not available with Lucid Puppy and Busybox. (For ROXTerm just turn off the settings in the ROXTerm window menu, or use xset b off in the other terms.)

For Puppy in the real console (not the term window) use the ANSI sequence:

Code:
echo -e "\033[11;0]"


And careful with this, I think I crashed Puppy mistyping it, have your stuff saved.

If it works for you, you should be able to add it to /etc/profile or .bashrc (someone can probably recommend a better place to put it, then I'll change it here.)

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PostPosted: Thu 22 Sep 2011, 23:18    Post subject:  

Would you please explain the difference between the "real" console and a terminal window? Confused
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PostPosted: Thu 22 Sep 2011, 23:36    Post subject:  

Flash wrote:
Would you please explain the difference between the "real" console and a terminal window? Confused


Yeah, sorry about that... a term window is in a window, and a "console" (VT) is not. Click the Term icon to open a term window, hold Ctrl+Alt and F2 to see the console. Different environments, different ways to make them stop beeping. CTRL ALT F4 TO GET BACK!

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PostPosted: Thu 22 Sep 2011, 23:50    Post subject:  

Oh, I see. But they both run the same command set? (Bash, or whatever it's called.)
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PostPosted: Fri 23 Sep 2011, 00:46    Post subject:  

in 528 I can't get to the console because when I switch over it asks for a login and password, i've tried every puppy combination I can think of but to no avail, been wondering about it for a while now.
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PostPosted: Fri 23 Sep 2011, 02:48    Post subject:  

DPUP5520 wrote:
in 528 I can't get to the console because when I switch over it asks for a login and password, i've tried every puppy combination I can think of but to no avail, been wondering about it for a while now.


Open a term, login as root. If it says # then you're there. Now type: passwd (and hit enter.) Put in the new password you want. Now Switch to console and login as root with the new password

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PostPosted: Fri 23 Sep 2011, 03:11    Post subject:  

I trust that it beep on your side of the Atlantic? but here in Sweden.
I have used Puppy now for some three years and it have never beeped ever!

I got curious on your first thread post yesterday.

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Mostly I use totally "libre" distros, because I like that every little snippet of code belongs to everyone and is controlled by the user, not some giant corporation, but every long while I try some kind of semi-free distro for educational purposes.

I like the size, you don't see distros this small, not like you used to. If I had the know-how, I'd put together a totally "Free as in Freedom" Puppy, all with only software that's Free/Libre and even the kernel. But I suppose then I'd have to recompile everything, but even then I wouldn't know how to put the newer kernel in.

Basically you'd need a lot of people here who believed in that sort of idea. If that ever happens they've got my vote. It would be cool if there was some kind of manual for building Puppy, a sort of Make Your Own Distro for Dummies. I recall Puppy being remixable, but not to that point.

Anyway, have fun Puppy people, I'll let you know if I have more questions or make any cool discoveries about this thing, which I'm posting from now.

Ciao!

FaifPuhp


So faif stands for Free as in Freedom (from proprietary and company controlled and owned code. ) puhp refers to:
1. A contemptible person; usually a male of questionable hygiene, manners, intellect, fashion sense or body weight who is not held in high regards by his peers. Displays an arrogant ignorance of the fact that he is, in fact, a puhp.

2. A lazy mispronounciation of poop (slang).

I wonder what you are trying to tell us with that choice of user name.
Especially after reading your take on that we are root.

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The other thing is that it's tough to get people to take your security seriously when everything is root.

A user-level account helps, the firewall probably helps, but privilege escalation seems to be what attacks are all about and you're escalated by default.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=566579#566579
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PostPosted: Fri 23 Sep 2011, 03:45    Post subject:  

nooby wrote:
puhp refers to:
1. A contemptible person; usually a male of questionable hygiene, manners, intellect, fashion sense or body weight who is not held in high regards by his peers. Displays an arrogant ignorance of the fact that he is, in fact, a puhp.

2. A lazy mispronounciation of poop (slang).

I wonder what you are trying to tell us with that choice of user name.
Especially after reading your take on that we are root.


Thanks for chatting, I don't think you and I have anything else to talk about.

By the way... here, "Puhp" would be pronounced the same as "Pup." I was having some trouble with the signup process, don't ask why I thought the h would help. (Seriously, don't ask me anything at all.)

Not to be a bigot, but you are the third person who has convinced me that when Scandinavians don't understand what they're reading in English, they immediately start to put words in your mouth, and insulting you the whole way. I hope to revise this when one solitary experience goes otherwise. Next time you talk to me, if ever, I hope it's in Swedish.

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PostPosted: Fri 23 Sep 2011, 03:53    Post subject:  

faifpuhp wrote:
DPUP5520 wrote:
in 528 I can't get to the console because when I switch over it asks for a login and password, i've tried every puppy combination I can think of but to no avail, been wondering about it for a while now.


Open a term, login as root. If it says # then you're there. Now type: passwd (and hit enter.) Put in the new password you want. Now Switch to console and login as root with the new password


Thank you. Now I feel stupid.

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PostPosted: Fri 23 Sep 2011, 04:02    Post subject:  

DPUP5520 wrote:
Thank you. Now I feel stupid.


I hope you don't mean that! The whole thing about unintuitive tricks that technically shouldn't be necessary in the first place is that sometimes they just "get us," even when by now you'd think it would be obvious...

Unfortunately it means you sometimes have to assume the person missed the obvious, and risk insulting them, no matter how good the intention Smile ah, the many hazards of online support! But I suspect you're in good humor about it.

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