Slacko B3

[Jasper]

Hi 01micko et al,

My continuing experience with Slacko remains excellent and 4.99.5 seems less demanding on RAM and CPU than 4.99.4.

There are two small points:

(1) re Pburn: I did not manage to burn an ISO image because neither CD-R nor DVD+RW discs were recognized as being in the drive.

(2) re xorg_high: The download did not seem to be available via slickpet or install.

My regards

I used Burniso2cd instead (which can actually clean a DVD+RW before writing - I think that was a tip from Flash). Neither Pburn nor Burniso state they can deal with "+" varieties; so it seems ideal that these descriptions might be updated - by someone, sometime.

I don't need xorg_high (recommened for me by slickpet) though it does seem to improve access speed e.g perhaps in loading this Forum's posts/threads a bit faster.

[Béèm]

Thanks for your consideration, mick. I suppose it all comes down to the definition and use of 'decent'. Perhaps one could argue 'adequate'? Not sure how the guys over at Luci came to their strategy or how they implemented it, but it's nice to see choice pop up at an early stage. Politicians like to talk about choice, but they usually mean their choice! No need to parrot their behaviour?!

SeaMonkey is a decent browser. Using it for years without problems.

[aarf]

Transmission at 1.2 is long out of date.

[MinHundHettePerro]

Hello !

On Brookdale chips:

01micko, your plan B looks promising, judging from the pic, I guess it's best to fix things like this before X is started.

I have no clue as to why your first fix, writing the xorg.conf.d files, didn't work for me - maybe because X was already running and restarting X was flaky with the running conf. It should have worked.

charlie6, thanks, yes I already tried with BoardName ...... (rev03), didn't make a difference, though ....

I now employ conf-files in xorg.conf.d , and it seems like the BoardName and BusID entries for the Section "Device" aren't needed.....
I might as well learn how to use the xorg.conf.d/conf-files .................

Anyway, prepare to make fix-ups of this character also for other cards ........ See post 47 of this weeks DWW comments

Cheers / MHHP

[Stripe]

hi all

update on flsynclient

I have got a fully functioning touchpad but I had to set it up in 528 and copy the root/.flsynclient file from 528 and overwrite the original slacko file (not ideal but it worked)

in 528 when I opened flsynclient I got a message saying it recognised my touchpad and to restart xserver, when I restarted x I could make changes to the touchpad and they were saved.

in slacko I do not get any message and all I can change is the speed of the cursor. no tapping but the vertical scroll works out of the box,

I tried installing jemimah's synclient-0.1.4.6.pet and flsynclient-.6.pet but this made no difference

what versions are we using so that I can try and compile it again to see if I can get it working? (some chance )

everything else seems ok

cheers
don

Just noticed that youtube are looking for html5 testers
http://www.youtube.com/html5

[charlie6]

Hi Mick,
here again ... as promised ...
1. Burned 4.99.5 after .iso md5sum check OK;
2. Booted at first nice; upon personal settings (PSet) got stripped caleidoscopico-multicoloured lines just at the place of the first PSet box together with Menu text disappeared.
2.1. At once installed (menu icon are still present and rox is also still running) the two /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d files (see my previous post) and restarted X ... nothing to do: black screen "fooorrreeeveeeer"...

3. Rebooted ( puppy pfix=ram pkeys=be-latin1 ) without doing anything at the personal settings. No more caleido.. strip nor missing Menu text.
3.1.Then installed:
+ the two above *.conf files
+ xf86-video-intel-2.15.0.txz
+libdrm-2.4.25.txz
+glew-1.5.7.txz
as also mentioned in the link in my previous post (link to "cccc's and ignotus's" post).
3.2. Reboot and save the personal file.
3.3. X displays nice. Could complete the personal settings and restart X to activate it.

(NB: I already have done points under 3. on 312.37 - so I had stored all the relevant files in an apart USB stick ... ).

(IMHO:
1. I doubt about the need of the files under /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ... as 4.99.4 didn't needed them here.
2. All these is inspired from informations found just browsing the net - so I cannot give any warranty about correctness)

Now, again thank you so much to you and other contributors !

attachment: report-video + lsmod comment + installed packages info ins the same report-video.txt.tar.gz : JUST RENAME it dropping off the .tar.gz tail to read it with whatever text editor.

Hope this helps
Cheers, charlie

[jpeps]

libusb-0.1.12-w5.pet worked to show printer; hp laserjet P1102w worked with foo2zjs drivers, and networking an hp deskjet 940c worked out of the box.

I still had to manually load localhost:631, I have defaultbrowser set to a firefox link. After seamonkey, firefox opens, but not to localhost.

edit: posted a links-2.3.pet link back one page, since it looks like my original posting is non-existent.

[Brown Mouse]

Hi Micko

Probably not what you want to hear from a very inexperienced Puppy tester but I cant fault B3 in any way running on my desktop and I just love Seamonkey as a fast and perfectly suited default browser.

Great stuff as always

[01micko]

Hi Micko

Probably not what you want to hear from a very inexperienced Puppy
[snip]

Why not ?

ah, thanks for letting me know about firefox jpeps, I may adjust things so firefox is supported (other browsers too).

-

In other news..

I have Frisbee working, out of the box.. what a pain! But it is fully integrated into the Internet wizard .. starts by actually installing it, then you are prompted to open it by either menu, icon on desktop or right clicking the network icon in the tray. Sns and Dougal's network are untouched and if you don't install frisbee it sits there forever uninstalled, I got the size down to about 250K as well, so it's not taking too much room on the main sfs. Seems persistent too.

Next stop.. flsynclient ..

[rcrsn51]

libusb-0.1.12-w5.pet worked to show printer; hp laserjet P1102w worked with foo2zjs drivers, and networking an hp deskjet 940c worked out of the box.

And people complain about printer setup being difficult

I still had to manually load localhost:631, I have defaultbrowser set to a firefox link. After seamonkey, firefox opens, but not to localhost.

Look at /usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser and see if you are passing the right arguments to firefox.

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exec firefox "$@"

[cowboy]

01micko, here is my output for the lspci command given above:

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device [8086:2562] (rev 03)

initial report on B3 - probed, changed default to 1024x768x24. Set numlock, started Seamonkey from browser icon, and installed Flash. Restarted Seamonkey, and came over to the forum for this report. No problems yet, and will report if anything comes up. Will be running from LiveCD with a new savefile. Thanks!

[jpeps]

And people complain about printer setup being difficult

well, things are much easier with you on board, for sure.

Look at /usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser and see if you are passing the right arguments to firefox.

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exec firefox "$@"

oh geez....yeah, I have a personal setting pet that automatically copied it in wrong. Thanks for your insight. It works. Sorry for the blunder.

[01micko]

Thanks for owning up jpeps! Saves me any bother.

MHHP, interesting about nouveau. It's in ppm .. I might add a pinstall.sh, or even a little sub proggy to add those lines to "50-device.conf". Nouveau works splendidly on my GeForce 8400 GS and ok on my old P3 with old vanta (which has sadly died ). There are many cards in between that have strange issues that's why nouveau was dropped. Perhaps in the future, with a new kernel, I'll bring it back.

Charlie, hopefully tonight I'll upload B4, it has the little "PLan B" brookdale extension to xorgwizard, based on MMHP"S and your work.
So brookdale 'r' us ( @ cowboy), thanks for the out put of lspci for your cards, but as I stated, I can get completely different results when changing monitors, so I think a choice is ok. IIRC, James C has some super brookdale chip that has never had a problem!
I may also mention in that dialog that "mesa" is recommended, it includes the libs you refer to Charlie, I should also mention the bios mem setting being set at 8M.

Jasper, "Xorg_high" is "Mesa" for all intents and purposes, it downloads ok in B4, due soon.

aarf, yeah old transmission (for size), works ok for me though, newer one is in PPM>Internet category.

Stripe.. seems this release the bugs are to do with the 3 F's... Fido, Frisbee, Flsynclient .. Status:
Fido: Usable (in B4)
Frisbee: Fixed (in B4)
Flsynclient: work in progress.(hopefully improved for B4)

[charlie6]

Hi Mick,

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..."Xorg_high" is "Mesa" for all intents and purposes...

mesa-7.10.2-i486-1.txz
(downloaded from slackware 13.37 repo)

That last Mesa version has ran OK on Brookdale here (B2 and earlier), together with the 3 .txz files mentionned in my previous post.

I remind mesa-7.9.2 did not work here on an earlier Slacko version (X crashed or something like that).

Charlie

[James C]

Better late than never I guess......

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]# lspci -nn|grep  -iE "vga"
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device [8086:2562] (rev 01)

Still no problems on this box.

[01micko]

yeah James! We know You must have the only brookdale chip on the planet that works 100%

Charlie, xf86-video-intel-2.15.0.txz is in the main iso anyway, you've no need to add it, but libdrm-2.4.25.txz I might update, we are at libdrm-2.4.23.txz

I've updated the mesa pet, it includes GLEW.

Cheers

[Tasgarth]

Sorry to just report always the same problem and not suggest a solution : tray slider of sound did not work. (but sound is OK).

1) I tried changing its 'full window' or (and) its 'config window' => no action. It always displays CD
2) I then tried to modify the .retrovolrc script => tray_control=14 or 37 => no action.
What is the procedure to be followed?
Thanks

[01micko]

Sorry to just report always the same problem and not suggest a solution : tray slider of sound did not work. (but sound is OK).

1) I tried changing its 'full window' or (and) its 'config window' => no action. It always displays CD
2) I then tried to modify the .retrovolrc script => tray_control=14 or 37 => no action.
What is the procedure to be followed?
Thanks

if I have a problem I go to the config window and select the tray tab, then adjust the tray slider pulldown to what works. I don't know if that will help as you may have already tried.
I do intend to put another tray volume app in PPM for cases where retrovol fails, it's simply called 'volumeicon'. I don't have a current package as yet, but will in the coming days. The package will automatically disable retrovol, make alsamixer the default mixer and place it's own icon in the tray.

Thanks for the report

[James C]

yeah James! We know You must have the only brookdale chip on the planet that works 100%

At least something is still working right.....I've had 2-2gb sticks of ram go bad,a hard drive suddenly develop a bunch of bad sectors and a dvd drive decide to quit reading in the last few days.Almost afraid to touch a computer.......

Anyway, Slacko is still working fine on my 2 frugal installs.No problems.

[Tasgarth]

I do intend to put another tray volume app in PPM for cases where retrovol fails, it's simply called 'volumeicon'.

OK
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