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don570


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PostPosted: Tue 03 Apr 2012, 12:27    Post subject:  

User review

I got great results with the following Laughing


I tested squeeze-5.X.3.1.10.2-SCSI.iso
with Charlie6's xf86-input-k.3.2.11-wacom-0.14.0.pet
that I got from Murga wacom thread
and the Wacom Bamboo tablet

.... and it worked beautifully!!

I didn't have the problems that I experience with Lucid Puppy.

i.e. not problems with a black screen when I make a Pupsave file
and there was no persistency problems.

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Apr 2012, 13:04    Post subject:  

Note to pemasu:

Barry Kauler puts a link called usr/bin/nicoedit in his recent puppies.

I think he does it just in case there is a script that
needs nicoedit.
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Tue 03 Apr 2012, 14:09    Post subject:  

Thanks don570. I havent encountered so far problems, but I can put symlink to point to leafpad.
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Tue 03 Apr 2012, 16:21    Post subject:  

Quote:
1) your bluetooth start-up file (that lives in /root/Startup) is missing

Bluetooth starting file is and has been in /etc/init.d...do you mean something else ?

Quote:
2) when I downloaded .5 bluetooth pet, for the first time in my dpup try-outs, it warned me of copying over libs. I knew I needed .5, so I went ahead and installed. But the file is necessary, and you don't want to scare off new users and bluetooth. Maybe this pet should come pre-installed

I believe the pet really overwrites some existing files. It has been packaged and tested by stu90. I dont have working bluetooth system so I cant much test it. Of course I could inspect the overlapping files but...if it works...
Quote:
3) fn brightness works, but with no on-screen scale (similar to volume control). I don't mind, but is a file missing (the way volup, etc was missing from previous version)?

I believe Jemimah could answer better to that problem. You could pm her ? And if you get working solution...please post the procedure here.
Quote:
I hadn't realized that Racy 5.2.2 had a 3.07 kernel, so I tried that out. Racy saw my router, but couldn't connect, nor was the ClickPad fully functioning. My xorg re-config crashed Racy.

Well...that is the best part of puppy land. You can find working solution from other puppy. There is so many kind hardware and needs that several puppies complements each other...There is official Puppies for older hardware and so on... I cant much use Racy because the xorg does not like my touchpad. The same problem with Saluki and also with Precise Pangolin...which has Barrys compiled xorg-server:
Quote:
There were some issues, such as the xorg-server segfaulting, so I recompiled it, used version 1.11.4 instead of 1.11.3 used by Ubuntu.

Somewhere in this compile happened the same kind intolerance to my touchpad which affects Racy and Saluki. So...I stick with Dpup. It supports my hw perfectly.

Great news is that Barry K has returned to use aufs. So...it ensures the support to the aufs in Barrys woof and his builds. Slacko and Dpup have been examples using aufs all the time. Well...Slacko tested unionfs for awhile. I did one compile and got weird errors...didnt like it at all.
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Tue 03 Apr 2012, 17:06    Post subject:  

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Strange for me, the PupShutdown does not accept keyboard.
I pressed the power-button, the PupShutdown dialog arises, but it cannot be managed by the keyboard.

It seems to be gtk-theme related..whether you see the changing selected box or not. Nodoka themes shows the selected box alright. Aurora doesnt. So....it might be better to change the default theme for next version...sniff...
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radky

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Apr 2012, 22:57    Post subject: Re: Shutdown without mouse
Subject description: or with the power-button
 

shinobar wrote:
Strange for me, the PupShutdown does not accept keyboard.
I pressed the power-button, the PupShutdown dialog arises, but it cannot be managed by the keyboard.

PupShutdown-1.8.1
-Added keyboard shortcuts for the eight standard shutdown options: Alt+P (Power-Off), Alt+R (Reboot), Alt+L (Log-Out), Alt+S (Lock Screen), Alt+X (Restart X), Alt+W (Restart WM), Alt+T (Manage Task) and Alt+F (Backup Files). Thanks shinobar.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=56077
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PostPosted: Wed 04 Apr 2012, 01:02    Post subject: Re: Shutdown without mouse
Subject description: or with the power-button
 

pemasu wrote:
It seems to be gtk-theme related..whether you see the changing selected box or not. Nodoka themes shows the selected box alright. Aurora doesnt.

radky wrote:
PupShutdown-1.8.1
-Added keyboard shortcuts for the eight standard shutdown options: Alt+P (Power-Off), Alt+R (Reboot), Alt+L (Log-Out), Alt+S (Lock Screen), Alt+X (Restart X), Alt+W (Restart WM), Alt+T (Manage Task) and Alt+F (Backup Files).

Great. Both works fine. With keyboard:
[F12] >> [↑] >> [Enter] (Nodoka theme)
or
[F12] >> [↑] >> [Alt][P] (PupShutdown-1.8.1)

But still i propose another solution for the case we loose mouse and keyboard, or the display. Or for the keyboard-less systems.
I made a timeout feature against radky's PupShutdown. It goes to power off if no replay for 60 seconds. This timeout behavior is only when the PupShutdown is launched by the power button thanks to the acpid. Eternal wait (normal behavior) if the PupShutdown is launched from the menu.

Attached my proposal. It requires thePupShutdown and the acpid. Contains 3 files, /etc/acpi/actions/acpi_poweroff.sh, /usr/bin/wmpoweroff, and /usr/local/PupShutdown/PupShutdown.
EDIT: UPDATED 14:19:09 4 Apr 2012
EDIT: UPDATED 5 Apr 2012 http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=617422#617422

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pemasu


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PostPosted: Wed 04 Apr 2012, 01:11    Post subject:  

Thanks Shinobar. I will test. We will get also improved Aurora theme with better visualization of selected button.
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PostPosted: Wed 04 Apr 2012, 01:25    Post subject: acpi_poweroff.sh updated  

pemasu wrote:
Thanks Shinobar. I will test.

Updated the pet (timestamp 14:19:09). Only the file /etc/acpi/actions/acpi_poweroff.sh to be configurable the behavior.
Quote:
#!/bin/sh
# Patriot Jan 2009 for Puppy Linux 4.1.1 GPL
# Revision 0.0.6
# 13sep09 dialogbox by shinobar
# 4nov09 TIMELIMIT 30sec
# 26dec09 wmpoweroff, adjustable less than 10sec.
# 4apr2012 shinobar: PupShutdown with time limit
TIMELIMIT=60 # in second, 0: eternal wait, negatives: skip dialog

SOUND="/usr/share/audio/bark.au"
PLAY="aplay"
[ -f "$SOUND" ] && which $(basename $PLAY) >/dev/null && $(basename $PLAY) "$SOUND"

#echo "DISPLAY=$DISPLAY" >> /root/acpi.log
X_pid=`ps ax | awk '{if (match($5, "X$") || $5 == "X") print $1}'`
if [ "$X_pid" != "" ]; then
#if [ "$DISPLAY" != "" ]; then
[ $TIMELIMIT -ge 0 ] && [ -x /usr/local/PupShutdown/PupShutdown ] && P="/usr/local/PupShutdown/PupShutdown $TIMELIMIT"
[ "$P" = "" ] && P=wmpoweroff
else
P=poweroff
fi
exec $P

Skipping the dialog is preferable for the keyboard-less systems. I frequently use Puppy for the keyboard-less monitoring systems in manufacturing factories. Boot from USB flash, no HDD, and no saving back thanks to the pupsaveconfig.

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jakfish

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PostPosted: Wed 04 Apr 2012, 01:41    Post subject:  

Hi, pemasu,

Regarding the missing bluetooth file--it's an sh called "bluetooth" in /root/Startup. It's basically a kill-all file, with a bt restart, and then obexd setup for file transfer.

I think it's needed, or at least, I wasn't able to get bt working until I put it /root/Startup

Jake
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Wed 04 Apr 2012, 09:40    Post subject:  

/root/Downloads/bluetooth-0.5/root/Startup/bluetooth
The bluetooth script comes with bluetooth-0.5.pet and it has not been part of base Dpup.
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Wed 04 Apr 2012, 10:33    Post subject:  

I have tested now PupShutdown-timeout-20120404.pet. It seems that from script /etc/acpi/actions/acpi_poweroff.sh the part: && P="/usr/local/PupShutdown/PupShutdown $TIMELIMIT"
does not carry the TIMELIMIT value to the modified script: /usr/local/PupShutdown/PupShutdown.
The part:
Code:
# 4Apr2012 shinobar: tieout
[ $TIMEOUT -eq 0 ] && exit
for I in $(seq $TIMEOUT); do
  sleep 1
  pidof PSD-bin &>/dev/null || exit
done
wmpoweroff

does not take TIMEOUT timelimit in action. I am not sure should it be TIMELIMIT as in acpi_poweroff.sh script to carry it here, but even changing the TIMEOUT to TIMELIMIT does not help. The powerbutton shuts down after sleep 1.
Also the MENU > Shutdown which launches the PupShutdown script shuts down after 1 second.

It could be easiest solution that I revert back to just shutting down with powerbutton and forget the PupShutdown usage. It seemed good change but as always: every action has also counter-action.....
And Shinobar has shown that there is real need for just shutting down.
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PostPosted: Wed 04 Apr 2012, 10:56    Post subject:  

[quote="pemasu"]
Quote:

Quote:
3) fn brightness works, but with no on-screen scale (similar to volume control). I don't mind, but is a file missing (the way volup, etc was missing from previous version)?

I believe Jemimah could answer better to that problem. You could pm her ? And if you get working solution...please post the procedure here.


The brightness scale only works on the EEEPC, which sends acpi events when you changes the brightness. With other machines the kernel changes the brightness silently and AFAIK there's no easy way to know from a script when it happens or how bright it is.
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Wed 04 Apr 2012, 11:46    Post subject:  

I have removed the overwriting - preinstalled bluetooth files from bluetooth-0.5.pet. Jakfish or someone with bluetooth connection testing possibility could test the reloaded bluetooth-0.5.pet. It is now of course slimmer.

http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/pet_packages-exprimo/bluetooth-0.5.pet
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jakfish

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PostPosted: Wed 04 Apr 2012, 14:53    Post subject:  

Yes, bluetooth .05 installs, works, without overwriting files.

I've been doing so much testing of this OS that I've lost my place and hadn't realized that the /root/Startup/bluetooth.sh was put in by this pet. My mistake, I thought it was part of the stock OS.

As jemimah's warning about graphic for screen resolution, that makes sense, and the graphic is unnecessary--all that matters is that it works, and it does.

Jake
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