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Posted: **Mon 05 Sep 2011, 12:03**

Thanks, jb. I expected to find the email client in the menu as well as desktop. I don't use Thunderbird, anyway - Claws or EudoraOSE!
Yes, the video is a major bugaboo, but so could be the mouse one if there isn't a boxload of spares knocking around...

Posted: **Mon 05 Sep 2011, 14:05**

Congratulations,

Great final release. Fast, stable, and everything works on my two systems, including wireless.

Kudos,

Thanks,
Jim

Posted: **Mon 05 Sep 2011, 15:02**

I suspect it might be the drivers.. .however I have never seen this in any puppy, and not with the RC

Computer - Intel E8400 Duo 3GH. Nvidia GeForce 9400GT card.

Boot halts with tiny print on the screen. I suspect, wizard has adjusted the video. NOTHING till I hit enter then something flashes on the screen. I get a desktop...Icons seem large, yet hardware info shows 1040x.

STRANGE part is the screen flashes about every three or five seconds.

Posted: **Mon 05 Sep 2011, 21:59**

Thanks, folks, for the FD 520 final.

I hope I don't dampen your enthusiasm with bad news - X can't work in my AMD Fusion Laptop even with the kernel parameter tweaks of pfix=vesa,nox nomodeset (and any possible combination).

But FD 520 never hangs Xorg at once, only after about 2 minutes.

My emachines fusion laptop monitor must be the problematic part that makes Xorg fail in this machine (too sad, this is the much-promising AMD Fusion APU solution). (However, FD 511 has pristine Xorg setup doing direct rendering in this machine, so there lies the confusion.)

I wonder how Xorg setup can be tweaked without hanging the whole system? FD 520 and even other/newer Puppies can't get past xorgwizard's "Probing..." in this machine. Older Xorgwizard (in pup 431, for example) never hangs at that point.

EDIT: For diagnostics, am attaching the contents of /tmp and the result of lspci.

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00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 14h Processor Root Complex
00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 9802
00:11.0 SATA controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 SATA Controller [AHCI mode]
00:12.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller
00:12.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller
00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller
00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller
00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 SMBus Controller (rev 42)
00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40)
00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 LPC host controller (rev 40)
00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge (rev 40)
00:14.5 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI2 Controller
00:15.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Device 43a0
00:15.1 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Device 43a1
00:16.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller
00:16.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 0 (rev 43)
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 1
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 2
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 3
00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 4
00:18.5 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 6
00:18.6 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 5
00:18.7 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 7
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications AR8152 v2.0 Fast Ethernet (rev c1)
06:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)

Posted: **Tue 06 Sep 2011, 01:52**

Thanks for this superb release of Fatdog64.
The Nvidia 280.13-for520-final pet made a huge difference in glxgears.

Before;
$ glxgears
5458 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1091.505 FPS
5443 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1088.464 FPS
5406 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1081.159 FPS
5451 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1090.188 FPS
5437 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1087.379 FPS
5460 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1091.853 FPS

After;
$ glxgears
59700 frames in 5.0 seconds = 11939.896 FPS
60600 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12119.887 FPS
61053 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12210.467 FPS
60648 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12129.568 FPS
60998 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12199.422 FPS
60948 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12189.529 FPS
61149 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12229.744 FPS

Posted: **Tue 06 Sep 2011, 03:40**

I have edited the wikipedia page announcing this release @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puppy%20Linux
More users will look at it

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Posted: **Tue 06 Sep 2011, 04:32**

Has this been reported? PPM issues. Maybe I missed,but is documented to use a different method for system package management?

Might want to consider an update?

Hope this helps

Posted: **Tue 06 Sep 2011, 06:23**

FWIW, configuring the PPM worked well here.

Posted: **Tue 06 Sep 2011, 12:20**

gcmartin, what exactly is the problem? I clicked "update now" and then it works, I can see the packages ... as James C also confirmed.

Posted: **Tue 06 Sep 2011, 15:16**

Fatdog64-520 Final is sweet. Thumbs up. Thanks!

Posted: **Tue 06 Sep 2011, 15:45**

Minnesota wrote:Boot halts with tiny print on the screen. I suspect, wizard has adjusted the video. NOTHING till I hit enter then something flashes on the screen. I get a desktop...Icons seem large, yet hardware info shows 1040x.

I am getting something similar, but only in PUPMODE=5 - a frugal install with no pupsave. I need to type "xwin" to get a desktop. I'm sure that no previous version behaved like this.

Also, sfs_load is still broken because of the change in kernel number. However, when I try to force it into SFSVER=4, the program breaks. (???)

Posted: **Tue 06 Sep 2011, 18:03**

Also, sfs_load is still broken because of the change in kernel number.

Sorry, somehow I didn't put that in. I'll attach a pet to fix it.

I am getting something similar, but only in PUPMODE=5 - a frugal install with no pupsave. I need to type "xwin" to get a desktop. I'm sure that no previous version behaved like this.

What kind of graphics card is that with?

Posted: **Tue 06 Sep 2011, 18:35**

kirk wrote:
Also, sfs_load is still broken because of the change in kernel number.
Sorry, somehow I didn't put that in. I'll attach a pet to fix it.

Your PET does the same weird thing as my patch. It breaks the gtkdialog so the file chooser icon no longer appears. Maybe someone else can test this.

kirk wrote:
I am getting something similar, but only in PUPMODE=5 - a frugal install with no pupsave. I need to type "xwin" to get a desktop. I'm sure that no previous version behaved like this.
What kind of graphics card is that with?

It's an old ATI Radeon Xpress 200G. But I believe that I also saw it happen on a newer machine with Intel graphics.

Posted: **Tue 06 Sep 2011, 19:19**

This morning I reported PPM update not working

Now, It working fine as you can see

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rm: cannot remove `/root/.packages/Packages-puppy-fd64-offical*': No such file or directory

A package information database file needs to be downloaded.
This will be downloaded from:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/fatdog/pets/500/Packages-puppy-fd64-offical
and will be processed and named Packages-puppy-fd64-offical.
Press ENTER key to download, any other to abort: 
...success.

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/fatdog/pets/500/Packages-puppy-fd64-offical
and will be named Packages-puppy-fd64-offical.
Press ENTER key to download, any other to abort: 
...success

FINISHED
After returning to the main GUI window of the package manager,
it will be reading the updated database files.
Press ENTER key to exit:

Maybe a glitch somewhere between then and now. Interestingly, I was able to surf the web, and access the FATDOG site for PETs. But the PPM was not cooperating as it always had.

Posted: **Tue 06 Sep 2011, 23:28**

I ran some tests on a newer machine with Intel graphics and the video worked fine.

However, the sfs_load bug continues. The gtkdialog doesn't render properly.

Posted: **Wed 07 Sep 2011, 09:42**

First, I'd like to say great job on Fatdog64! Since I've bought my new Toshiba laptop (Satellite L755-5216), I've not been able to get if fully operational with Puppy 5.2.8 or 5.2.9 (referring to http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=71023). Regardless I luv Puppy and it's only a matter of time before it'll will work out.

Last night, for S&Gs I tried Fatdog64, since the laptop came with 64-bit Win 7. Well, using Fatdog64, my video looks good (screen is at native resolution). I get audio (another positive). But my wifi nic was not recognized. So after some research, I found the

firmware-realtek_0.28_all.deb

file and installed it. Now I see my Realtek wifi nic. Although I'm prompted to setup and login into my router, it comes up as WPA and not WPA2. In any case, Fatdog says I'm connected but I cannot access the internet.

I went into the wireless diagnostics and created the attached tar.gz file. Any ideas? Thanks!

Posted: **Wed 07 Sep 2011, 10:14**

rcrsn51 wrote:
Minnesota wrote:Boot halts with tiny print on the screen. I suspect, wizard has adjusted the video. NOTHING till I hit enter then something flashes on the screen. I get a desktop...Icons seem large, yet hardware info shows 1040x.
I am getting something similar, but only in PUPMODE=5 - a frugal install with no pupsave. I need to type "xwin" to get a desktop. I'm sure that no previous version behaved like this.

This didn't happen to me on all the machines I throw 520 at - ATI, nvidia, Intel (I don't have any SIS graphics) - desktop, notebook, netbook. Not saying that it's not happening, but I can't reproduce it. I've looked at the code in /etc/rc.sysinit and /etc/profile, there isn't anything that stops the desktop waiting fro the key - except testing for previous run of Xorg /tmp/bootcnt.txt.

Posted: **Wed 07 Sep 2011, 12:06**

The messages are

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/usr/X11R17/bin/Xinit (errno 11):
unable to connect to X server
no such process (errno 3): server error

But these old ATI graphics have always been a bit wonky, so I'm not going to worry about it.

Has anyone else tested SFS-load-on-the-fly?

Posted: **Wed 07 Sep 2011, 12:54**

rcrsn51 wrote:The messages are
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/usr/X11R17/bin/Xinit (errno 11):
unable to connect to X server
no such process (errno 3): server error

This simply means that Xorg can't start. There may be additional error messages in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ... but it's really odd if you can then run "xwin" and everything works. Sounds like something is slow to start so that Xorg failed the first time, but then works the second time.

Now that I'm thinking about this, it may explain Sage's perceived slowness. Somewhere in beta/rc stage, kirk made acpid start synchronously (before that it started in the background), because sometimes Xorg started before acpid was fully running and it behaved weirdly. This means the whole boot process now needs to wait until acpid is ready - and that could explain why the boot process is now longer.

But these old ATI graphics have always been a bit wonky, so I'm not going to worry about it.

I agree heartily and won't pursue this further

Has anyone else tested SFS-load-on-the-fly?

Yes, in frugal install mode (PUPMODE=12), the fix works. But remember - try not to exceed the 6-SFS limit. If you exceed 6-SFS limit, weird things will happen (I can load beyond the 6-SFS limit but can't unload).

joe0855, I will get back to you when I have an answer. If you don't hear from me that means I don't have an answer for you

Posted: **Wed 07 Sep 2011, 13:15**

jamesbond wrote:
Has anyone else tested SFS-load-on-the-fly?
Yes, in frugal install mode (PUPMODE=12), the fix works.

I finally got it working. For some reason, sfs_load was detecting the presence of puppy_slacko-4.99.4.sfs in the same partition as Fatdog and the gtkdialog was choking on it.

Once I renamed that file, sfs_load was fine.

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