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Fatdog64-520 Final

#1 Post by kirk »

Fatdog64-520 has been released. Lots of improvements!

Go here:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... atdog/web/

And click the Latest link for all the changes since 511.

Big thanks to all who tested. Please note that we now have a bug tracker. You'll find a link to it in the FAQs on the Firefox home page.

IF YOU TESTED ANY 520beta/RC DELETE ALL OF IT'S FILES, INCLUDING SFS AND SAVE FILES..


Edit: We left tap to click on for those using a laptop touchpad. To turn it off, go to Setup - Adjust Touch Pad and then on the tapping tab change Tap Time to zero.
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Re: Fatdog64-520 Final

#2 Post by Lobster »

kirk wrote:Lots of improvements!
Congratulations to Kirk and JamesBond
Have provided a link on the wiki
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/HomePage

JamesBond has also compiled this:
I've uploaded a 64-bit pjsua here:

website: http://mydrive.ch
userid: dotpet@puppyshare
password: puppylinux

(under fatdog64 folder)
and I am just about to
replace this file (use the same name) to test
/usr/local/psip/pjsua_custom_03-0.9.0

to see if we can get PSIP2 working in Fatdog . . .
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Psippy

Thanks guys
Have not used Fatdog in a while
Looking forward to trying it :)
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#3 Post by Sage »

Really good news and thanks to you both.
Have been having problems with recent releases of FF in Mint and some other distros. Other folks seem to be reporting the same (not only this Forum). Opera and Midori seem to function even when I've got FF running and overloaded (deliberately!) with open tabs and windows. What was the reasoning for Jemimah to switch to Midori? Did she ever give a full expalantion? Was it a netbook-only matter?
Boot-up is very very slow with a long detente before the DE emerges. Still getting unacceptable grief in res. selection, resetting xorgwiz with SiS chipset. Definitely something amiss - one of the outstanding features of all the alphas/betas/RCs was the speed - that is now not only lost but it's slower than all the 32bit derivatives on the same machine.
I imagine the next step will be to reduce the .iso complement?!

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#4 Post by Lobster »

The Iblio server is a bit slow :(
Any torrents or mirrors welcome . . .
Should this be released as our first official 64bit Puppy? I hope so . . .

FD64-520 went straight to desktop, connected to Ethernet
and I was in and browsing. :lol:
That is the way we like it!
Hopefully Icyos will do a review . . .
http://www.youtube.com/user/icyos

Do remember (I forgot again 'fatdog pfix=ram', when you want a clean boot up - most Puppys use 'puppy pfix=ram')

Had a problem importing my bookmarks again
I blame the Fox . . .
In the end I opened my saved HTML as a web page

In order to use the PPM (which was unpopulated)
I had to click the 'Configure Package Manager'

http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Fatdog64
Fatdog is a nice piece of work.
I wanted to get PSIP2 working in it but I need
the 32 bit code (being developed) + the 64bit compile (available).
So that would require a bit of time . . . 8)
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#5 Post by jamesbond »

Sage, you have 4 options:
a) pfix=vesa
b) pfix=vesa nomodeset
c) pfix=vesa,nox and once you're in terminal, run xorgwizard-old
d) pfix=vesa,nox nomodeset and once you're in terminal, run xorgwizard-old
Any

Ed,
Your bookmark problem is probably access issue - it's probably "spot" can't access your bookmark file. Use Rox to go to that bookmark file, then select "Properties", and make sure that "World" has read permission. Of - if youcan't be bothered, edit /usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser and change that to "firefox" instead of "firefox-spot".

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#6 Post by Sage »

Many thanks for your prompt suggestions, James.
I guess it's the strange combo of SiS chipset + cr*p Dell monitor. I think it sets up VESA by default without pfix=vesa? Problem is, every other 32/64 distro, Puppy & others, finds 1024x768 without this hassle. Either way, I am unable to get the higher res. by any subterfuge now, including setting it impossibly high on monitor capability and throttling back to 1024x768, which used to work on an earlier RC.
There is another weird and worrying feature now. The video DE never starts spontaneously - it holds at a flashing cursor, not prompt, after booting. Hitting 'x', (perhaps other alphanumerics? but not 'Enter') yields the desktop???
sr0 still not 'unmounting' from right-click on icon - needs to enter Pmount/mount/close panel/unmount !

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Fatdog64-520 Final

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I did a manual frugal install of 520 final.
Installed devx + nvidia-280.13-for-520-final.pet

Sun 4 Sep 2011 Operating System: Fatdog64-520 Linux 3.0.3
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 1082 (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA product: GF110 Board - 12630002 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia: vendor=NVIDIA Corporation
X.Org version: 1.9.5
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (513x292 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GTX 560 Ti/PCI/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 4.1.0 NVIDIA 280.13

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU
Core 0: 1600 1: 1600 2: 1600 3: 1600 4: 1600 5: 1600 6: 1600 7: 1600 MHz

# glxgears
104363 frames in 5.0 seconds = 20872.547 FPS
106346 frames in 5.0 seconds = 21269.037 FPS
106527 frames in 5.0 seconds = 21305.326 FPS

No problems here, thanks

edit: I've been running fd520 final for a few hours and no problems so
far, the wallpaper is a photo of our cat and she wants to go out and
play with the chipmonk that's watching from the safe side of the door
:)
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#8 Post by Lobster »

Ed,
Your bookmark problem is probably access issue - it's probably "spot" can't access your bookmark file.
Makes sense. 8)
Fatdog uses the security of its own downloading folder . . .
OK will try later when back in 64bit world
Would just moving the bookmarks to the spot download directory be sufficient or must permissions still be altered?
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#9 Post by rcrsn51 »

Sage wrote: Definitely something amiss - one of the outstanding features of all the alphas/betas/RCs was the speed - that is now not only lost but it's slower than all the 32bit derivatives on the same machine.
I have not experienced this. There has been no change in speed.

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#10 Post by Sage »

chacun_à_son_goût...

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Calibre Install Issues Continue

#11 Post by Fishy »

Followed instructions and installed dbus from package manager. As you can see from the screen shot it says dbus installed incorrectly. Not sure what to do about incorrect installation.

I have changed/removed spot from default browser and firefox in /usr/share/applications. Can I remove the default download folder and spot as I have one outside of save file? any other things to do to get it working like a standard puppy.

All in all seems to be working fine, looking forward to trying to fix the Fatdog install on his AMD socket FM1 system.

Thanks for all the hard work :D
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#12 Post by jamesbond »

Sage,
520 went under a couple of kernel changes - some of the betas used 2.6.38.8 and 2.6.39.4, the 520-rc uses 2.6.39.4, 520-rc2 uses 3.0.3 (same as final), and kirk optimised the settings on each iteration. It's possible that it could cause slowdown in your particular configuration - but the rest of us don't feel it (definitely not me or kirk or rcrsn51, we don't feel the slowdown).

I'll leave the graphics question to kirk when he's back. It's odd though that you need to press "x" before the DE starts, I've never encountered any of those issues. That being said, you're running in full install, I suppose?

Fishy, just run this:

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dbus-uuidgen > /var/lib/dbus/machine-id
and you're good to go.
You can remove "/root/spot/Downloads" but please don't remove "/root/spot" as it's used not only by firefox but others.
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Dbus Issue

#13 Post by Fishy »

Tried dbus-uuidgen > /var/lib/dbus/machine-id and received no such file or directory> :?

But having fun, thanks.

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#14 Post by jamesbond »

ah yes, the folder of course. I forgot to tell you before you run that uuidgen command you need to create the folder first

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mkdir -p /var/lib/dbus
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Fatdog64-520 Final

#15 Post by Billtoo »

I did a manual frugal install of fd520 final.
Installed devx + ati-catalyst-11.8-3.0.3.pet

Sun 4 Sep 2011 Operating System: Fatdog64-520 Linux 3.0.3
0.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Redwood PRO [Radeon HD 5500 Series]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS product: REDWOOD 01.00

X Server: Xorg Driver: fglrxdrm: vendor=FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc.
X.Org version: 1.9.5
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (508x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: ATI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon HD 5570
OpenGL version string: 4.1.11005 Compatibility Profile Context

AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 810 Processor
Core 0: 800 1: 800 2: 800 3: 800 MHz
# glxgears
35287 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7057.250 FPS
39300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7859.910 FPS
39299 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7859.720 FPS

I installed Window Maker (just because I could I guess) and it's working well
with lxpanel.

The opensource video driver wasn't working 100%, some screens were
blurry, but the ati pet is working well.
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#16 Post by Sage »

I've never encountered any of those issues.
Thanks for your interest, James, Some new features seem to crop up at every iteration with 'new' projects! As a good scientist, I only report reproducible results (just in case you wonder). If I get the chance today, I'll wheel-out my trusty(?) old 939 which guarantees different behaviour to almost everything else in my armoury.

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#17 Post by James C »

Fresh multi-session dvd of Fatdog 520 final.Everything working on initial boot and persistent through several saved sessions.

-Computer-
Processor : 4x AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 620 Processor
Memory : 3796MB (235MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.50
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Mon 05 Sep 2011 01:12:26 AM GMT+5
-Display-
Resolution : 1366x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
Audio Adapter : PC-Speaker - pcsp


-Version-
Kernel : Linux 3.0.3 (x86_64)
Version : #1 SMP Thu Aug 18 22:58:50 GMT+5 2011
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.11.1 (stable)
Distribution : Puppy Linux 0.50

Still using the "nouveau" driver but working fairly well.

# glxgears
2532 frames in 5.0 seconds = 506.200 FPS
2588 frames in 5.0 seconds = 517.554 FPS
2581 frames in 5.0 seconds = 516.065 FPS
2590 frames in 5.0 seconds = 517.867 FPS
2591 frames in 5.0 seconds = 518.182 FPS
2558 frames in 5.0 seconds = 511.449 FPS

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#18 Post by James C »

Installed the Nvidia 280.13-for520 pet.

# glxgears
11035 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2206.800 FPS
11032 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2206.319 FPS
10852 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2170.272 FPS
10801 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2160.106 FPS
10709 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2141.773 FPS
10855 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2170.938 FPS
10798 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2159.483 FPS
11040 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2207.889 FPS

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#19 Post by Sage »

Well-founded suspicions! 939 behaved very differently. Whether pfix=ram, or vesa, or ram,vesa the boot up black-screened after completing the routine. This was only retrievable with an hard reset. Wary HardInfo detects on-board nV15, GF2 GTS/Pro chipset. Think there's been nV issues already!
Yes, there is something badly amiss with the initial video setup. First priority is to get a picture on any HW thrown at an OS. Twiddling with drivers/resolution/w.h.y. has to come later? There must be a way of doing this without prejudicing final setup and without using boot codes?

Later:
- using the full complement of pfix=ram,vesa nomodeset gave me a picture but xorgwizard still isn't functioning to enable a change of resolution.
PS: the 'pupX' came too late to change the mouse settings. Had to change the mouse to get access to the ability to change the settings! All this has to come first!
And finally?!: managed to get 1024x768 (icons askew) by using the menu version of Xorg Video Wizard - it didn't work from the CLI after CTRL-ALT-BKSPCE. No email client (in main menu)?
Package Manager is empty? and this is the first Puppy that won't accept Opera(other Deb)??? Looks like you guys will have to postpone that world cruise for a couple of years!

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#20 Post by jamesbond »

Sage,
The email client is "Thunderbird" - it's on the desktop next to the Firefox icon. As for the PPM - yeah it's blank, you need to "configure" it first to download the latest package list. The graphics is the difficult one, I don't have any answer.

For others:
- I've just uploaded the latest skype.sfs and jre 1.6.
-An as announced earlier, there is openshot.sfs version 1.3 which includes blender too.

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