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PostPosted: Wed 31 Aug 2011, 07:40    Post_subject:  parental control for a shared pc  

Idea
Would like to see configurable parental control as a definite must have in the new development releases.

Like K9 software (Blue Coat) but sadly its not available for Puppy.
Has any one got a pet on this ?

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PostPosted: Wed 31 Aug 2011, 08:57    Post_subject:  

Beem gave you an advice back in 2010
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=472552#472552

Could you share if that worked so we get some perspective what you look for. k9 what do tehm do to help you?

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PostPosted: Wed 31 Aug 2011, 09:26    Post_subject:  

@nooby
K9 is actually a pretty sweet piece of software, it is basically an internet proxy which resides on the client, is user independant (different settings for each user), and cannot be uninstalled except for by the admin. I used it for a few different people that didn't want their kids looking up unsavory things on the net and was able to get pretty specific with it (blocking porn sites yet still enabling sites about body anatomy) I would love it if K9 could y in Linux however I don't ever really see it coming to puppy. I tried DG in Ubuntu back in the day and it works relatively well however I was never able to get it running in Puppy I know a few people have but I just don't have the patience to get it up and running.

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PostPosted: Wed 31 Aug 2011, 09:31    Post_subject:  

So this is one more reason to dual boot so one can keep the ability to use such programs that only work on the dreaded other OS then Smile

Yes I can understand that one don't want a kid say 7 years old to suddenly get into Hard Core actions. Or to click on something that download a trojan horse with keyloggers to the bank account. Sure.

so what advice can we give to the OP then?

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PostPosted: Wed 31 Aug 2011, 10:45    Post_subject:  

As I said Dansguardian does work it just takes a lot of configuring and I think doesn't work in all versions of Puppy, I'd recommend doing a search for it in the forum as there are people that have gotten it working in Puppy and it is the only real choice for internet filtering on a client linux box unless if you are gonna run a proxy server (what I do at my parents house for my little sister).

Edit: Dual booting on a Windows computer running K9 is definitely a no no as simply booting into the Linux OS would circumvent the internet filter unless Linux OS was kept on a disk/usb stick where the one meant to be affected by the filter could not get to it.

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PostPosted: Wed 31 Aug 2011, 11:44    Post_subject:  

So k9 would bark at puppy being booted? How does it now if one reboot in between?

Maybe me misunderstood.

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PostPosted: Wed 31 Aug 2011, 13:05    Post_subject:  

it is the complete opposite of what you are thinking, since K9 is only for Windows and Mac booting a Linux OS on a computer which uses Windows and K9 (or MAC and K9) would make having K9 installed on that computer worthless as they could just boot into the Linux OS and look up whatever they wanted on the net without worrying about the filter.
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PostPosted: Wed 31 Aug 2011, 16:11    Post_subject:  

According to this, there is a Linux version of K9
http://www.kaska.demon.co.uk/download.htm

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PostPosted: Wed 31 Aug 2011, 17:02    Post_subject:  

The K9 which you linked to is a clock sync utility.

edit: however it did sync my clock with the system clock as soon as I ran it so I think I just found a new useful tool that way you don't need to set the clock on a live cd.

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PostPosted: Wed 31 Aug 2011, 17:15    Post_subject:  

Gnome Nanny
http://linuxers.org/article/gnome-nanny-parental-control-system-linux

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PostPosted: Wed 31 Aug 2011, 17:47    Post_subject:  

DPUP5520 wrote:
it is the complete opposite of what you are thinking, since K9 is only for Windows and Mac booting a Linux OS on a computer which uses Windows and K9 (or MAC and K9) would make having K9 installed on that computer worthless as they could just boot into the Linux OS and look up whatever they wanted on the net without worrying about the filter.


Ah that was what your referred to. Yes okay even young kids can understand to do such things Smile

Or elder "Buddies" tell them and show how to do the cheating.

Password for the root account on puppy would make it hard to boot?

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PostPosted: Wed 31 Aug 2011, 20:37    Post_subject:  

Yes a password would sure help however kids these days know more than you would think, all in all i feel a password on a linux system is pointless as it can be circumvented in all of about 30 seconds. Checked out the "Gnome Nanny" site, wonder if Gnome is an actual dependency if so itd be hard to get working in Puppy.
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PostPosted: Thu 01 Sep 2011, 04:35    Post_subject:  

Not sure if I should write this. Some say that a human are mature only after 30 years old or so. Road accidents show that 16 to 25 or so have the most accidents? Them not mature enough to understand the dangers of driving too fast for their own capacity.

Similar with young kids them don't understand that internet experiences can change how them feel about life.

So it is natural for parents to protect them by using filters.

Being as curious as them can be them try to secretly circumwent these filters ...

So maybe an inner mental "firewall" is better than a "Nanny" in the software of the computer? That the child get trusting enough to abstain from giving in to the nosiness and don't go where curiosity leads them.

Maybe I am naive but such "Trust" in the good advices from my Dad kept me from smoking and drinking and hijacking cars freeloading and such bad behavior.

Am I too naive? My Dad gave me an inner mental "Firewall"

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PostPosted: Thu 01 Sep 2011, 13:14    Post_subject:  

"kept me from smoking and drinking and hijacking cars freeloading" -didn't you ever have *any* fun?
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PostPosted: Thu 31 Oct 2013, 00:12    Post_subject: PARENTAL CONTROL FOR FIREFOX  

nooby wrote:
[...] one don't want a kid say 7 years old to suddenly get into Hard Core actions [...]

so what advice can we give to the OP then?


I've found this is good:
1. Firefox Add-ons to block sites
AntiPorn Pro is good, but I rather use BLOCK SITE, since it let me block all sites and then built a "white list" so I can restrict browsing to known sites.

2. Firefox Add-ons to block manipulating Add-ons.
PUBLIC FOX puts a password to add-ons and preferences of Firefox

Not yet controlling what is outsite of Firefox. Thanks goodness my children still don't know another browser or how to download things.
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