Lucid Puppy 5.28 X/ALSA/FLASH crash

Please post any bugs you have found
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dio444
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#16 Post by dio444 »

So, I'm back to thinking it's not about the extra sfs files. I had the crash 3 more times with just a lupusave.2fs and no sfs files loaded (except of course the base lupu528.sfs).

I'm getting a little stressed trying to chase this down. Going to take a few days break from it, I'll check back in a few days after I've relaxed some.

Tom

P.S. Still has never crashed this way when clean booted without any save file created.

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#17 Post by puppyfan1 »

My sound worked fine for at least a few days of rebooting. But my sound just broke after the last reboot my computer and it seems like it is somehow related to these other problems. X did crash once so it might of been involved. My sound card is different then the other cards listed, so I included my full lspci. The only thing I've done, as far as I know, is install the following software and surf the web. This is my configuration, if you need any other information let me know. I tried running alsoconfig after my sound broke and included its output. If you need anything else let me know.

EDIT: I tried pfix=clean & pfix=purge but they didn't fix the problem. My usb sound adapter seems to work though.

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Xorg_High-1.1-Lucid
ff-7.beta
FoxitReader-1.1-Lucid
PupControl-1.6.6
Flash 10.3 r183

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Loading driver...
Setting default volumes...
amixer: Mixer attach default error: Input/output error

ALSA lib confmisc.c:674:(snd_determine_driver) could not open control for card 0
ALSA lib conf.c:3326:(snd_config_hooks_call) function snd_config_hook_load_for_all_cards returned error: Input/output error
ALSA lib confmisc.c:674:(snd_determine_driver) could not open control for card 0
ALSA lib conf.c:4184:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver returned error: Input/output error
ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings
ALSA lib conf.c:4184:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat returned error: Input/output error
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1251:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
ALSA lib conf.c:4184:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: Input/output error
ALSA lib conf.c:4663:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: Input/output error
ALSA lib pcm.c:2212:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.default
aplay: main:660: audio open error: Input/output error
killall: aplay: no process killed

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00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface [8086:2570] (rev 02)
	Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:0159]
	Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort+ >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 0
	Region 0: Memory at e8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable)
	Capabilities: [e4] Vendor Specific Information <?>
	Capabilities: [a0] AGP version 3.0
		Status: RQ=32 Iso- ArqSz=2 Cal=2 SBA+ ITACoh- GART64- HTrans- 64bit- FW+ AGP3+ Rate=x4,x8
		Command: RQ=1 ArqSz=0 Cal=0 SBA+ AGP+ GART64- 64bit- FW- Rate=x8
	Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel
	Kernel modules: intel-agp

00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P PCI to AGP Controller [8086:2571] (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap- 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 32
	Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=32
	I/O behind bridge: 0000c000-0000cfff
	Memory behind bridge: fc000000-fdffffff
	Prefetchable memory behind bridge: f0000000-f7ffffff
	Secondary status: 66MHz+ FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort+ <SERR- <PERR-
	BridgeCtl: Parity- SERR- NoISA+ VGA+ MAbort- >Reset- FastB2B-
		PriDiscTmr- SecDiscTmr- DiscTmrStat- DiscTmrSERREn-
	Kernel modules: shpchp

## 00.01:0 is a bridge from 00 to 01-01
00:06.0 System peripheral [0880]: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P Processor to I/O Memory Interface [8086:2576] (rev 02)
	Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Region 0: Memory at fecf0000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)

00:1d.0 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #1 [8086:24d2] (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
	Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:0159]
	Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 0
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 11
	Region 4: I/O ports at bf80
	Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
	Kernel modules: uhci-hcd

00:1d.1 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #2 [8086:24d4] (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
	Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:0159]
	Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 0
	Interrupt: pin B routed to IRQ 11
	Region 4: I/O ports at bf60
	Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
	Kernel modules: uhci-hcd

00:1d.2 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #3 [8086:24d7] (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
	Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:0159]
	Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 0
	Interrupt: pin C routed to IRQ 11
	Region 4: I/O ports at bf40
	Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
	Kernel modules: uhci-hcd

00:1d.3 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #4 [8086:24de] (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
	Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:0159]
	Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 0
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 11
	Region 4: I/O ports at bf20
	Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
	Kernel modules: uhci-hcd

00:1d.7 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB2 EHCI Controller [8086:24dd] (rev 02) (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
	Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:0159]
	Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 0
	Interrupt: pin D routed to IRQ 11
	Region 0: Memory at f8fffc00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
	Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
		Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=375mA PME(D0+,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+)
		Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
	Capabilities: [58] Debug port: BAR=1 offset=00a0
	Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd
	Kernel modules: ehci-hcd

00:1e.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge [8086:244e] (rev c2) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 0
	Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=06, sec-latency=32
	I/O behind bridge: 0000e000-0000efff
	Memory behind bridge: fa000000-fbffffff
	Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 30000000-33ffffff
	Secondary status: 66MHz- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort+ <SERR- <PERR-
	BridgeCtl: Parity- SERR- NoISA+ VGA- MAbort- >Reset- FastB2B-
		PriDiscTmr- SecDiscTmr- DiscTmrStat- DiscTmrSERREn-
	Kernel modules: shpchp

## 00.1e:0 is a bridge from 00 to 02-06
00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC Interface Bridge [8086:24d0] (rev 02)
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle+ MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 0

00:1f.1 IDE interface [0101]: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) IDE Controller [8086:24db] (rev 02) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP])
	Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:0159]
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx+
	Latency: 0
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 0
	Region 0: I/O ports at 01f0
	Region 1: I/O ports at 03f4
	Region 2: I/O ports at 0170
	Region 3: I/O ports at 0374
	Region 4: I/O ports at bfa0
	Region 5: Memory at 34000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
	Kernel driver in use: ata_piix

00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller [8086:24d5] (rev 02)
	Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:0159]
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 0
	Interrupt: pin B routed to IRQ 11
	Region 0: I/O ports at d800
	Region 1: I/O ports at dc40
	Region 2: Memory at f8fff800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
	Region 3: Memory at f8fff400 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
	Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
		Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=375mA PME(D0+,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+)
		Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
	Kernel driver in use: Intel ICH
	Kernel modules: snd-intel8x0

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] [1002:4e50] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
	Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:017c]
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop+ ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 32 (2000ns min), Cache Line Size: 32 bytes
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 11
	Region 0: Memory at f0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable)
	Region 1: I/O ports at c000
	Region 2: Memory at fcff0000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
	Expansion ROM at 80000000 [disabled]
	Capabilities: [58] AGP version 3.0
		Status: RQ=256 Iso- ArqSz=0 Cal=0 SBA+ ITACoh- GART64- HTrans- 64bit- FW+ AGP3+ Rate=x4,x8
		Command: RQ=32 ArqSz=2 Cal=0 SBA+ AGP+ GART64- 64bit- FW- Rate=x8
	Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
		Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
		Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

02:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401 100Base-T [14e4:4401] (rev 01)
	Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:8127]
	Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 32
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 11
	Region 0: Memory at faffe000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
	Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
		Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=375mA PME(D0+,D1+,D2+,D3hot+,D3cold+)
		Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=2 PME-
	Kernel driver in use: b44
	Kernel modules: b44

02:01.0 CardBus bridge [0607]: Texas Instruments PCI4510 PC card Cardbus Controller [104c:ac44] (rev 02)
	Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:0159]
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 168, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 255
	Region 0: Memory at fa000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
	Bus: primary=02, secondary=03, subordinate=06, sec-latency=176
	Memory window 0: 30000000-33fff000 (prefetchable)
	Memory window 1: 38000000-3bfff000
	I/O window 0: 0000e000-0000e0ff
	I/O window 1: 0000e400-0000e4ff
	BridgeCtl: Parity- SERR- ISA- VGA- MAbort- >Reset+ 16bInt+ PostWrite+
	16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001
	Kernel driver in use: yenta_cardbus
	Kernel modules: yenta_socket

## 02.01:0 is a bridge from 02 to 03-06
02:01.1 FireWire (IEEE 1394) [0c00]: Texas Instruments PCI4510 IEEE-1394 Controller [104c:8029] (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
	Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:0159]
	Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 32 (500ns min, 1000ns max), Cache Line Size: 32 bytes
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 11
	Region 0: Memory at faffd800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
	Region 1: Memory at faff8000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
	Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2
		Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0+,D1+,D2+,D3hot+,D3cold-)
		Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME+
	Kernel driver in use: ohci1394
	Kernel modules: ohci1394

02:03.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:4320] (rev 02)
	Subsystem: Dell TrueMobile 1300 WLAN Mini-PCI Card [1028:0001]
	Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 32
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 11
	Region 0: Memory at faff6000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
	Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
		Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=375mA PME(D0+,D1+,D2+,D3hot+,D3cold+)
		Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=2 PME-
	Kernel driver in use: b43-pci-bridge
	Kernel modules: ssb


Summary of buses:

00: Primary host bus
	1e.0 Bridge to 02-06
	01.0 Bridge to 01-01
01: Entered via 00:01.0
02: Entered via 00:1e.0
	01.0 Bridge to 03-06

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#18 Post by dio444 »

OK, after a week of fighting it, I give up. I have no clue where the issue really is. It just crashed out totally without save file (for the last few days I've been running without save file because it improves stability, though that doesn't seem to be enough to stop whatever's happening. So for now, I'm just going back to getting things done in older puppy versions. At the moment I'm in MyWolfe0.28. Will also be running 4.21 and 4.31. Maybe I'll give wary a serious spin...

Tom

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#19 Post by flyhighdan »

I have the same problem. I have same audio chip. Flash crashes randomly on all 3 browsers.

Had to do alsaconf to re-search sound card.

Network is now looking for a wlan. I uncheck wireless box as i am plugged in, and the setting doesn't take. So, eth and wlan bounces to getting ip and loosing it.

I am running lhp503g.

So, my questions is: could someone give me a link to a pet file for the latest nvidia driver for lighthouse puppy? They have 280.13 now, but the newest version I could find was 173...

Could someone give me a link to a pet file for the latest version of flash for lighthouse puppy?

Same thing, they have new stuff, and we can't upgrade because of compatability with puppy, unless someone posts uptodate pets.

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#20 Post by moijdikssekool »

hello
i have the same problem
I'm doing some compilations of VLC. And i thought it was a problem related to this but i've done some tests and i conclude it is not. Whatever i do, installing flash or not, sound disappears after some reboots. I do a savefile where my sound works and as soons as it disappear, i reload this savefile and work with it until sound crash, this is not very cosy. If you want, i can do some tests for you

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#21 Post by Semme »

Here's how I overcame the problem, only now, sessions are saved to a 3fs savefile stored on my ext2 formatted flash-drive- syslinux the bootloader. In other words, and I've been through several boots since, saves are no longer carried out while in X.

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#22 Post by moijdikssekool »

saves are no longer carried out while in X.
and I've been through several boots since. sorry i have some problems of translations. What do you mean?
My 3fs save file is store in my FAT32 key and...

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#23 Post by Semme »

moijdikssekool, I speak of the :wink: Xwindows GUI. The system executes that save after closing JWM/Openbox.

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#24 Post by moijdikssekool »

in fact you test sound before save? If it doesn't work, you don't save and loose modifiactions done since the last save, that'it? That's what i do, a bit boring

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#25 Post by Semme »

Boring or not, I no longer think about it`cause it's worked every time since. I said "adios" to the icon too!

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#26 Post by moijdikssekool »

ok. And is there a possibility to reload the last pupsave without rebooting the PC?

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#27 Post by Semme »

That, I wouldn't suggest. I'd boot: pfix=ram and have a backup overwrite your main file from a live run. I keep a working spare on another partition and when needed, simply drag it in to overwrite the existing save.

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#28 Post by dio444 »

OK, based on Semme's post, I duplicated his "fix" and am testing it. Been running for hours today, no crash. I'm going to run it for a few days this way to see what the results are.

For the purposes of this thread I supply a more clear description of what he did:

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Menu->System->Puppy Event manager
   Save Session tab, set save interval to 0 (disable)
   Hit [OK] to close/finish  

   Delete the save icon from desktop to prevent accidentally hitting it.
   
   Reboot to ensure change is permanent, as it will not get saved anymore until reboot.
If this works, the crash appears to be a problem of the save going off when there is very little free ram (the situation that existed every time it previously crashed). If it crashes and doesn't break the save file, then the problem is different but this prevents it from getting forced out to save file. Either way, it will be a key piece of tracking down the actual problem.

Tom

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#29 Post by PaulBx1 »

Another post about alsa:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=71637

Running alsa wizard kills the sound and the sound icon. Booting from a pupsave, no sound. OK booting pfix=ram.

This is the sort of regression you get when piling large numbers of unnecessary changes into a bug fix revision. Sorry for the editorial comment. BTW I am running 5.2.6 on another machine and have seen no alsa problem with it. So, something between 5.2.6 and 5.2.8...

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Still hasn't crashed...

#30 Post by dio444 »

Well, I'm up to like 10 hours running without the crash that I could so reliably produce without semme's workaround with the session saves...

Maybe the thread should be renamed to "session save bug" ;)

I'm still going to give it a couple more days before I really decide that this has done it.

Tom

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#31 Post by dio444 »

Well, after something like 20 hours of use it just crashed. Same symptom as before, I was playing flash video and playing a flash game, and editing a libre-office file. It just instantly dropped to prompt as before, xwin failed to start it. After a little consideration, I issued a "halt" rather than rebooting so that the session was not saved, and then cold booted. During boot it did an fsck on both the main host FS and the savefile, but it came back up perfectly. No alsa failure. I still don't know what the actual problem is, but running this way (session save interval 0) is MUCH better than before when this was taking out my savefile every time it happened.

Tom

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#32 Post by rerwin »

PaulBx1 wrote:Running alsa wizard kills the sound and the sound icon. Booting from a pupsave, no sound. OK booting pfix=ram.
. . .
BTW I am running 5.2.6 on another machine and have seen no alsa problem with it. So, something between 5.2.6 and 5.2.8...
PaulBx1,
Could you give us more details, so that I know where to look for a cause? Could you obtain a pmodemdiag file before you run the wizard and then afterward? Then a third one after you reboot and find no sound? Please tell us, too, what you did leading up to running the wizard, and why it was necessary.

To get the files, run pmodemdiag from a command line. Then rename the tar.gz file it produces in your root directory, to annotate it uniquely (-1, -2,& -3 are good enough). The tool always uses the same name for a particular day, and will not overwrite an existing such file. Oh, it is good for more than just modem diagnosis.

I would like to work on this, but need the evidence for clues. Thanks for reporting your problem.

UPDATE: After a couple of hours to think about this, I think you can ignore the above request for the diag files. I net out the issue to be simply that in 5.2.6 your ISA/legacy sound driver was always loaded automatically at bootup, after the initial setup with the wizard, but that that does not happen with 5.2.8. Right?

All of the scripts that deal with sound are the same in those two releases. The one thing that changed was the version of udev, which controls hardware detection and module selection. My guess is that udev no longer generates an event for the older sound cards -- maybe because of a difference in configuration parameters, or something else. Unless playdayz knows of a reason for not seeing these devices -- because he upgraded the udev version for lupu -- I will look for a way/workaround to restore the startup of such modules.

To confirm this approach, could you get a diag file after a good reboot in 5.2.6, and also after an unsuccessful reboot in 5.2.8 (with the correct driver already set up)? That way I can see if there is a difference in the event generation at bootup time. If we can confirm that the required event is no longer being created, I should be able to compensate for that, somehow. Since the alsawizard retains the driver name, the issue becomes that of when to decide that it needs to be loaded. Thanks for your help.
Richard

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Pmodemdiag-20110924-01 file posted here.

#33 Post by WB7ODYFred »

No, I have not got a flash crash. I am still working on getting sound operational on the I3 core Dell sutdio 1558 Model PP39L.
I will be reading other older forum posts to see what to do to
make sound operational. I ran the Setup --> Alsa wizard. But get some input/output error message and can not hear the 2 puppy barks.

Rerwin Yes, I think this might be a solution from my other reading.
"option snd-hda-intel model=dell-m6-dmic" in file /etc/modprobe.d/snd_hda_intel.conf

I don't have access to this computer to test, but will try at next opportunity. Maybe I need to use the Multicard alsa configuration script, too. Since you
point out that I have two sound card devices. Will try to disable the first one.

I attached my pmodemdiag file.
Also note on a fresh 5.2.8 USB install, the firmware file iwlwifi-6000-4.ucode for Intel Wireless N-6200 chip was missing in directory /lib/firmware
Went to Intel WIreless website http://intellinuxwireless.org/?n=downloads


Fred
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Re: SFS!

#34 Post by ilanrab »

dio444 wrote:...
2) It's NOT that simply having a pupsave is the problem...
Indeed. I am going to provide some more info. Hopefully it will help in isolating the problem. This is not related to flash. It's related to running the ALSA Wizard, amixer, and retrovol (under certain conditions).

A few weeks ago I upgraded from 526 to TwoHeadedDog (528), via a frugal file copy, from the puppy ISO image to my Dell Netbook system. The system actually resides on a bootable 16GB flash drive. All went well. The sound icon appeared on the taskbar, I was able to use amixer and retrovol with no problems.
I've been running this system with no problems from the sound, the flash, or VLC.

Today, I replaced the 526 system, that runs on a Dell Desktop PC, with the solid TwoHeadedDog system that I've been using on my netbook (see the paragraph above.) Everything seems to be working fine, except for the sound.
The sound icon never appeared on the taskbar.
When I run amixer, I get: "amixer: Mixer attach default error: Input/output error"
When I run retrovol, I get: "retrovol: hcontrol.c:573: snd_hctl_load: Assertion `hctl->count == 0' failed. Aborted"

Since the Dell desktop has a different sound chip, I ran the ALSA wizard to remedy the situation. No change. The problem persists.
If I reboot the Desktop system, with a brand new (clean) pupsave file, the sound icon appears, and amixer/retrovol operate just fine.

So. I went back to the netbook (which has a working sound capability -- see the 1st paragraph, above) and I clicked on the following:
1. Desktop setup icon (PupControl comes up)
2. Hardware tab.
3. Sound Setup.
4. Single card.
5. Alsawizrd button in the Alsawizrd Warning dialog.
NOTE: at this point, the sound icon, on the taskbar, disappeared.
6. OK (searching sound cards progress dialog appeared).
7. OK .
8. NO.

The taskbar sound icon is gone. Running retrovol brings it back up, as long as the shell is up. Running the sound controls, on the netbook, does not give me the errors that I get on the Dell desktop system.
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#35 Post by cthisbear »

WB7ODYFred:

On a recent Toshiba...my tests.

""""""""""

Next sound >> as reported by windows it is

>> Conexant Smart Audio HD


At boot to the desktop >> Nothing happens...
Is Fatdog a barker?

So in Alsa Equaliser Mixer
I changed to >> default >> and it is now showing
>> Conexant Cx20590


Try my test mp3...as there is no bark.

= xine engine error
Input plugin failed to open mrl /mnt.

Alsa Equaliser control is off...>> I turn it on.

Alsa Mixer shows...But mp3 fails again.

Chipset says alsaequal

Hit F6 >> highlight says >> enter device name

I select >> Default

Card >> HDA Intel PCH

Chip now shows >> Conexant CX20590

Hit F5 >> give Master a few more hits upwards

Esc...Still errors. bugger bugger

But Xine plays off my usb...yeah.

Open up Pmusic to add the mp3 from SDA2.
It decides to play.

""""""""""

See if any of that works 4 you....Chris.

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