Puppy Phone - VOIP using SIP

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#526 Post by russoodle »

smokey01 wrote:With the help of OscarTalks we have managed to get Psip working without having to register with a SIP provider such as Iptel. Psip actually works quite well in peer to peer mode so you don't really need to connect via a SIP provider. The main problem though is dynamic IP addresses which most people have.

OscarTalks has suggested a solution which works very well. The answer is no-ip.

Check out this web site: http://support.no-ip.com/customer/porta ... les/374286

No matter what you IP address is the no-ip site will be able to resolve your address.
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Seems to be the same as DynDNS

#527 Post by gcmartin »

smokey01 wrote:With the help of OscarTalks we have managed to get Psip working without having to register with a SIP provider such as Iptel. Psip actually works quite well in peer to peer mode so you don't really need to connect via a SIP provider. The main problem though is dynamic IP addresses which most people have.

OscarTalks has suggested a solution which works very well. The answer is no-ip.

Check out this web site: http://support.no-ip.com/customer/porta ... les/374286

No matter what you IP address is the no-ip site will be able to resolve your address.
One of the oldest and most reliable of these types of providers is DynDNS.

I have been a user for more than 12 years without ANY issues. I have installed this solution in more than 100 accounts. Its free, friendly, always up, has a 5-star reputation and, most of all, instantly reliable.

PSIP Users can and do connect to you using the URL you pick when you sign-up to DynDNS. The ONLY thing required after you sign up is to insure that your router passes the port number for PSIP to your PC. Its that simple.

Hope this experience helps others.

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Re: Seems to be the same as DynDNS

#528 Post by technosaurus »

gcmartin wrote:One of the oldest and most reliable of these types of providers is DynDNS.

I have been a user for more than 12 years without ANY issues.
Lucky for you, new users may not have the same luck:
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/12/17 ... ns-options
According to the linked page, the free service is being drastically cut back for new users (one free hostname, rather than five, and from a shorter list of branded domains), but not ended entirely. Existing users, it says, will see no changes "as long as you keep your hostnames active and up-to-date. If you allow your account or hostnames to expire, you will have to select from the new domains instead and will be limited to the one free hostname."
so best to have a couple options
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#529 Post by dogle »

Back in February, OscarTalks reported:
For dynamic IP address problems I have used no-ip.com but you need to have the "Dynamic Update Client" running to maintain the connection from your name domain to the dynamic IP and I don't know how to install that in Puppy.
Is there now a fix/workaround for this?

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#530 Post by OscarTalks »

In fact there is a Linux version of the Dynamic Update Client available at the http://no-ip.com site which is very easy to install. I am still a relative newcomer to Puppy.

Incidentally if folks wish to test their PSIP Puppy Phone with a live human being rather than an echo test they can give me a call via the Iptel account when it is on-line. Sharing experiences and observations may help the further development of PSIP.
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#531 Post by Sylvander »

Unable to get my sound working on my new PC.
See details of mobo and sound here.
I'm looking for a PDF manual for the mobo.

There are 3 sockets on the back:
Pink=mic? | green=line out? | blue=line-in?
Mic connected to pink.
Amplified spkrs connected to green, with headphones connected to the headphone socket on the front of the powered spkrs.
Speakers given power, and switched on.

Missed the opportunity to test in 1st run of Psip-1.2.

OK...
Just now managed to use the "Media Test" files stored on my Flash Drive.
Played the "wheelie.mov" file, and the sound was OK. :D

So how do I test it and set it up in Psip-1.2?
Should be easy, right?! :?

Now managed to play music in Psip.
Tried the echo, but heard nothing, even with mic switched on and plugged in.
Retrovol has mic [and "Front mic" (its mobo header not connected to any socket)] boxes ticked and volumes up.
I have SVR installed, but heard nothing when I tried to record and playback [don't know what I'm doing].

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#532 Post by CatDude »

Hello Sylvander
Sylvander wrote:Unable to get my sound working on my new PC.
See details of mobo and sound here.
I'm looking for a PDF manual for the mobo.
I wonder if this link is any good to you

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#533 Post by Sylvander »

Thank you. :D

Got it. 8)

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#534 Post by BarryK »

Guys, a note, we will be needing the executable binary used in Psip compiled for ARM (armv6) architecture.
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#535 Post by jamesbond »

Barry,

Attached is Puppy Phone (PSIP) compiled in sap6 8)
- pjproject 1.14 (I thought this was the latest, but then I checked it after compilation I saw they have released 1.14.2 ... anyway I'm not going to recompile unless people have problems with it - pjproject compilation took hours!)
- osxcart 1.1 (latest)
- psip proper from fossil trunk (latest - I haven't updated anything since last november)

This is a straight-compile, I haven't optimised anything (or enable optimisation flags etc).
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#536 Post by BarryK »

jamesbond wrote:Barry,

Attached is Puppy Phone (PSIP) compiled in sap6 8)
- pjproject 1.14 (I thought this was the latest, but then I checked it after compilation I saw they have released 1.14.2 ... anyway I'm not going to recompile unless people have problems with it - pjproject compilation took hours!)
- osxcart 1.1 (latest)
- psip proper from fossil trunk (latest - I haven't updated anything since last november)

This is a straight-compile, I haven't optimised anything (or enable optimisation flags etc).
Thanks for that! I'll put together a "puppy phone" psip pet and include it in the next sap6, for further testing.
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#537 Post by eowens2 »

I have been trying to get PSIP 1.3 up and running in Precise Puppy 5.4.1.1 on an Asus EEEPC. My main goal is to call landlines and cellphones.

My sip provider is diamondcard.us (www.diamondcard.us). I think all of my PSIP setup is correct. I can connect to landlines and my own cellphone but I invariably get an audio disconnect (and the call disappears from the active-call list) after about 10 seconds.

I have set my console log level to 6, but the activity log and dmesg do not seem to have any useful information.

I have been using Twinkle/diamondcard.us as a softphone/sip provider under Precise Puppy 5.4.1.1 with no problems, but I would prefer to use the Puppy softphone.

Anyone know what causes the disconnects and how to eliminate them?

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#538 Post by OscarTalks »

A long time ago I had a problem of calls disconnecting after a fixed period of 30 seconds and disabling SIP ALG in my router cured it (if I recall correctly).

Doing that stopped the disconnects, but did introduce a problem of connection established but no audio (sometimes one way - sometimes both ways) which in turn I resolved by making sure to always set a STUN server.

I have since changed my ISP and router so can't reproduce the problem now. These SIP softphones can be a bit temperamental and there are lots of variables which is why I like to have 2 available. Puppy Phone usually works well and gives great audio. I have Linphone as my alternative.

Is Twinkle still being developed? I didn't think so. I recall trying it once in one of my Puppies and it didn't perform very well.
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#539 Post by eowens2 »

Thanks for your response, OscarTalks. I know zippo about how routers work, but I did manage to get inside mine and check all of its settings. However I could find no "SIP ALG" to enable/disable, and saw nothing about a STUN server. Just my inexperience as to where to look I guess.

Skype, Ekiga and Twinkle work with my router and its settings without disconnecting the call, which to my way of thinking, makes me doubt that router settings are the real issue when PSIP disconnects.

I want to use PSIP as a VOIP when travelling out-of-country, where international roaming charges on a cell phone would be prohibitive. Surely all of the wi-fi hotspots, airports, hotels and internet cafes in the world must adhere to the same protocols, or VOIP would be a nightmare!

I think you are right. Twinkle may no longer be actively developed. Maybe I should give Linphone a try.

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Re: Can you use MagicJack adapter with Puppy Phone

#540 Post by n0ukf »

LoboGrande wrote:I've been wanting to use MagicJack with Puppy. Anybody done this before?
Has there been any resolution to this question?
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#541 Post by OscarTalks »

Hello n0ukf,

I took a glance at the website and MagicJack appears to be a SIP adapter, probably set up to use their own SIP service. It would almost certainly work, but would not involve PSIP Puppy Phone at all. You have to plug in a normal phone and use that.

If you use the cheaper basic version of MagicJack it establishes networking through the USB port so it would just be a question of whether or not that works in Puppy. I guess it would be OK, but anyway if you have the PLUS version of MagicJack it can connect to your router via an ethernet cable so you don't even need to have a computer switched on at all.

There are other adapters available and other options for using SIP for calling (via PSIP or something else). Don't let the advertising of any one product fool you. Investigate the pros and cons bearing in mind your own needs and read the small print before parting with your money.
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#542 Post by redandwhitestripes »

Hi guys,
I just signed up with Evaphone and I want to use PP as my softphone in Precise, frugal.. I can just about connect to a sip tester line from mouselike but I've no idea if my Evaphone login details have been correctly inserted, or how I can even check?! I've tried calling several cell numbers using the full international prefix but nothing seems to happen, the log just says "outgoing"

Here's a snap of my input (obviously I've hidden my password). If my settings are wrong or I'm missing something obvious, please put me straight. Many thanks.

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#543 Post by OscarTalks »

Try like this in the first instance:-

SIP URL sip:803145157@evaphone.com

Registrar sip:evaphone.com

Auth Realm evaphone.com (or just *)

Auth User 803145157

Secure voice call unticked

Notes:-
Colon not a dot after initial "sip"
Auth Realm may work with just an asterisk (wildcard)

Close preferences AND quit and restart PSIP

If the settings are correct, click the "Logged Out" button in the main GUI
It should go green and show you as "Logged In" almost instantly.

I'm chatting to CatDude in PSIP now and he made this pic:-
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#544 Post by redandwhitestripes »

^^^^
Thanks so much for taking the time, Oscar.I really appreciate you and Catdude helping out. Sadly it still doesn't work but that's probably just that Puppy and Evaphone are incompatible.

On that note, can anyone recommend a Skype-like service that they have used successfully within PuppyPhone? It needs to be a service I can top-up online.

Thanks

gcmartin

#545 Post by gcmartin »

Hi @RedandWhiteStripes

Is there a chance you can turn off your firewall, then test to see if it works for you? Afterwhich you can turn it back on.

There are 3 things which can affect proper dialer operations on PCs
  1. your ISP
  2. your router blocking the ports to the PC
  3. your firewall
This assumes you have typed your setup definitions correctly.

Let us know

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