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Lucid Puppy 5.2.8 - Updated ISO Version 005 - APR 05 2012
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rcrsn51


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PostPosted: Sun 13 Oct 2013, 14:13    Post subject:  

Sylvander wrote:
Don't know offhand what the kernel versions are for all of these; if you really must have me give them I could take the time to find out.

No need. That list is fairly self-explanatory.
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James C


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PostPosted: Sun 13 Oct 2013, 15:04    Post subject:  

With the disclaimer that I build my own computers,which means I have UEFI but not the fabulous "secure boot", I've had no trouble booting Puppy or other distros with either k-2.6.x or k-3.x.x.
I set the bios to "legacy mode"(individual hardware may and probably will differ in the terminology) and distro hop away.Actually can't recall anything that hasn't booted.
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PostPosted: Sun 13 Oct 2013, 15:10    Post subject:  

Sylvander wrote:

So how come the name luci_001.sfs? Confused


To differentiate between the "official" Lucid releases and the "unofficial" Three Headed Dog releases. Also,no problem of either version attempting to use the save file of the other.
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PostPosted: Sun 13 Oct 2013, 15:27    Post subject: Re: new hardware,UEFI, old 2fs with 5.2.8.6  

otropogo wrote:
Thanks all. Unfortunately not the answer I was hoping to get. I've just bought a new laptop with a 4th gen haswell cpu, Windows 8, and UEFI "BIOS".

I haven't found a way to boot puppy 5.2.8-05 at all on it.

Has anyone succeeded in booting Puppy on a UEFI system?


I think you need to disable the secure boot feature of UEFI bios

Here is an example of how to do it. May work slightly different for your computer, but the general method is explained.
http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/17058-secure-boot-enable-disable-uefi.html

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PostPosted: Sun 13 Oct 2013, 15:38    Post subject:  

Might be of some interest too....

Managing EFI Boot Loaders for Linux:
EFI Boot Loader Installation


http://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/installation.html
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James C


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PostPosted: Sun 13 Oct 2013, 15:50    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:
Using Lupu 3HD 5.2.8.6 20131012

It finds and configures my new Netgear N150 USB wireless adapter with no problems.

One problem with 3HD version is video drivers.
In Quickpet drivers tab
Run check your graphics card.
It identifies my Nvidia card OK
Gives Option button to download Nvidia driver
There are no drivers available for download.

I know this is an issue with no driver pets made for the kernel in 3HD on the download repository.
Drivers are there for standard Lucid 5.2.8.6 compiled for its kernel.

.


EDIT: To correct myself...... Laughing

There are drivers available in the official repo..... but I've been successfully using these.....


nvidia-96.43.19
http://www.smokey01.com/01micko/pet_packages-spup/nvidia-96.43.19-k2.6.37.6-s.pet

nvidia-173.14.28
http://www.smokey01.com/01micko/pet_packages-spup/nvidia-173.14.28-k2.6.37.6-s.pet

nvidia-275.09.07
http://www.smokey01.com/01micko/pet_packages-spup/nvidia-275.09.07-k2.6.37.6-s.pet

HTH.

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PostPosted: Sun 13 Oct 2013, 16:02    Post subject:  

Just did a fresh full install of THD and happened to notice an up-to date SeaMonkey 2.21 pet in the Ibiblio repo. Thanks to the mystery dev for the new SeaMonkey....... Smile
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PostPosted: Mon 14 Oct 2013, 11:59    Post subject:  

Thanks James C.

I was looking for those graphic drivers made for the specific kernel 2.6.37.6.
Now if they could be placed in a location where Quickpet in Lupu 3HD could find them.

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rerwin


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PostPosted: Wed 16 Oct 2013, 15:53    Post subject:  

Uploaded new variant, lupusuper, which is playdayz' "sulu_001" based on kernel 3.0.25 and with the 5.2.8.6 upgrade applied. This provides a version for verifying that all fixes to accommodate kernels 3.x are in place in 5.2.8.6, and whether anyone benefits from the newer set of drivers in that kernel.

I would prefer that we settle on one "3.0" version based on a kernel already supported in the official puppy sources library. That would be 3.0.66. But is that even worth doing, given that there are so many newer alternative puppies about?
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James C


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PostPosted: Wed 16 Oct 2013, 17:49    Post subject:  

Fresh manual frugal install of lupusuper on an old P4 test box. Basically working well out of the box but ............

Neither Quickpet or the browser selector will download. Just one of the always entertaining code/script mismatches that sometimes occur.

However the PPM works fine so I grabbed SeaMonkey 2.21.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Super Lupu, version 001

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe glx dri

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 extmod fb glx intel kbd mouse record

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video

-Computer-
Processor : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
Memory : 2585MB (163MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Wed 16 Oct 2013 05:01:33 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ICH4 - Intel ICH5

-Version-
Kernel : Linux 3.0.25 (i686)
Compiled : #1 SMP Mon Apr 2 22:00:04 GMT-8 2012
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.11.1 (stable)
Default C Compiler : Unknown
Distribution : Unknown distribution
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Oct 2013, 17:58    Post subject:  

Second manual frugal install, same basic results.

sh-4.1# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Super Lupu, version 001

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe glx dri

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Loaded modules: dbe ddc dri dri2 extmod fb glx i2c int10 kbd mouse nv ramdac record vgahw xaa

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1440x900 pixels (411x263 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
sh-4.1#

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1033MB (164MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Wed 16 Oct 2013 05:10:57 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Oct 2013, 18:39    Post subject:  

rerwin,

About the need for a version with a newer Linux kernel.
I found that to get my new Netgear N150 network wireless USB adapter, to work, I needed to use Lupu 3HD. Its slightly newer kernel was needed.

So, I could see support for new add on hardware as reason to justify a newer kernel.

With the changes you are making to Lucid Puppy, the kernel version is probably the biggest difference, between it, and newer versions of Puppy.

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PostPosted: Fri 18 Oct 2013, 06:38    Post subject: Echinus 0.49 on LucidPup 5.2.8.6
Subject description: A little marvel
 

Hello, all.

Please find attached a pet of echinus-0.4.9
freshly packed for LucidPup 5.2.8.6.

I've posted a screenshot here: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=731168&sort=lastpost#731168

Enjoy!

musher0
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PostPosted: Fri 18 Oct 2013, 09:52    Post subject:  

added to wiki
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Echinus

how is the 'alone tray' window created? Is it a launcher, file manager or something else?

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PostPosted: Fri 18 Oct 2013, 14:27    Post subject:  

darkcity wrote:
added to wiki
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Echinus

how is the 'alone tray' window created? Is it a launcher, file manager or something else?


Good afternoon, darkcity.

Many thanks for mentioning this 0.4.9. version of the echinus window
manager in the Puppy wikka. I'm honored! It will also give more exposure
to an excellent window manager.

As to "stalonetray" - no doubt a contraction of the words "stand alone" --,
it is neither a launcher nor a file manager. It is an independent icon tray.
It is very stable, more so than the ROX-Tray applet, for example.

Another excellent feature is that you can shape it as you wish (as a
square, on one line or more, vertical or horizontal, long or short, large or
small, with or without borders, transparent or not, tinted or not). You can
make it sit at any suitable place on your screen. Furthermore, you can
ask it to display the icons bigger or smaller, from the left or from the right.

You compile it and install it as you do with any Linux executable. To use it,
you put a link to the stalonetray executable in the /root/Startup folder;
alternately, you may include it in the starting file or sequence of your
window manager.

To work properly, stalonetray has to be the only active icon tray; in the
example above, the tray function in fbpanel has been de-activated.

I hope this helps. Best regards.

musher0

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