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I tried the lupumini on a virtualbox with 256MB RAM without swap.

lupumini-5.2.8.6 -- Lucid Pup with Z-drive and 121MB main SFS file, appropriate for 256MB+ RAM and minimal 160MB download size

It runs, but freezes when i tried to install seamonkey-1.1 via quickpet.
The lupumini on the 256MB RAM loads both the 121MB main SFS plus the 35MB Z-drive on the RAM at a time.
That is the same as the lupu with the 155MB main SFS, and they freezes when installing browser pets.

Anyway, I do not think the lupu is appropriate for 256MB RAM without swap.
One of the reason is the lupu does not have full featured browser, and it is a concept of the lupu.

shinobar wrote:Anyway, I do not think the lupu is appropriate for 256MB RAM without swap.
One of the reason is the lupu does not have full featured browser, and it is a concept of the lupu.

The lupu-528JP, the Japanese edition has a seamonkey on the live cd as a seperate SFS.
But anway the lupu-528JP is not appropriate for 256MB RAM without swap.

On low ram (256MB) computers.
I think, if you make a save file and boot using it, you can get large programs to install with no problems.

rerwin wrote:I have uploaded a set of 4 ISO files labeled as 20130930.  They are available at the link at the original download posting, which explains the updates:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 108#726108

When you have a convenience, could you please add the corresponding MD5 check sum to either your post in page 158 or your download space at mediafire site.

After my first contact with Linux in 2007, e.g. Fedora, Ubuntu's, Mandriva and DSL, and in 2009, with Puppy 4.2, becoming Linux only user and addicted to Puppy … and Lupu-528 from its very beginning, of course I learned some tweaks from the forum that, at least for me, are indispensable:

1) Show Drive Labels (thanks to akash_rawal)
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 638#508638

2) Show mounted drives in GTK File Dialog (thanks to akash_rawal)
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 081#510081

See screenshot below (thanks to akash_rawal):


3) “save

new background.

I have uploaded a set of 4 ISO files labeled as 20131004. They are available at the link at the original download posting, which explains the updates:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 108#726108

The main improvements are:

• - standardization of the mounted drive icons to provide the "X box" for unmounting (yay!)
  - addition of momanager for internationalization support

Please tell me if I need to add more to assist translation. Although it is not practical to internationalize everything in lupu, I am willing to add packages of internationalized versions of specific applications, if they are not dependent on kernels later than 2.6.33. Just request them.
Richard

Manual frugal install to a flash drive.

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Sat 5 Oct 2013 on Lucid 528 Linux 2.6.33.2 i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller:nVidiaCorporation GF108[GeForce GT 430](rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: GF108 Board - 1071v0p1 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.7.6
dimensions: 3360x1080 pixels (898x291 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GT 430/PCIe/SSE2/3DNOW!
OpenGL version string: 4.3.0 NVIDIA 319.60

AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1045T Processor
Core 0: @2699 1: @2699 2: @2699 3: @2699 MHz

I managed to get the proprietary nvidia driver installed, I will try
out some more stuff in the morning.

Manual frugal install to HDD.

VGA compatible controller: Intel Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
oem: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Chipset Accelerated VGA BIOS

Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2400 CPU @ 3.10GHz
Core 0: @3092 1: @3092 2: @3092 3: @3092 MHz

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The enhanced drive icon mount/unmount feature is working great.

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Volhout requested:

- a terminal program where I can "cut and paste" with the same shortcuts as I can in other programs (either ctrl-C, ctrl-X and ctrl-V, or rightclick copy and rightclick paste).

LXTerminal (included in Lupu) supports right-click copy/paste, and the corresponding keyboard shortcuts are Shift+Ctrl+C and Shift+Ctrl+V.

Also, ROXTerm (included in Lupu) has similar functions.

I have the old AMD k6-2 hooked up, a stack of Lucid discs and am going to attempt to see what versions will boot. Or not.
The original Lucid 5.0 posted from PuppyBrowser.

Skipping a few versions up to Lucid 5.20......

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 520

Chip description:
oem: NVidia
product: Riva TNT Chip Rev B1

Driver used by Xorg:


Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth:

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#

525 boots too....

re# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 525

Chip description:
oem: NVidia
product: Riva TNT Chip Rev B1

Driver used by Xorg:


Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth:

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#

However....... none of the 528 versions I tried would boot on the k6-2. Attempted 528,528.004 and 528.005 as well as a couple of rerwin's updated versions.....pfix=ram,pfix=nocopy,default boot made no difference ....all had kernel panic.

End of k6-2 testing.

James C,
Playdayz's statement on page 1 explains what you are seeing:

Lucid Puppy 5.2.8 is the fastest, friendliest, and most fun Lucid yet. It is the fastest because it is the first Lucid derivative to use the C and ffmpeg libraries optimized for i686 computers rather than the older i386 computers.

Apparently, everything compiled as C programs are potentially the cause of the problem, specifically if they use the "cmov" instruction introduced with the i686 architecture.

Maybe substituting some of the compiled programs with versions from 525 would work around the issue. The first area to examine is the bootup process, to find the C programs involved, to get past the kernel panic. We could probably live without programs dependent on ffmpeg (video processing) in those older machines. Anyone up for that? Once they are identified, I could build an ISO for the hybrid.
Richard

Just d/l lupu-528.006 to check it out

First added a few items and remastered. looks ok
Problem with pburn 3.7.18 creating the remastered iso
after line = fixating time =xxxxs
following appeared
wodim:fifo had 3611 puts and 3611 gets
wodim: fifo was 0 times empty and 3405 times full, min fill was 94
BURN-Free was never needed

then screen locked up. Only option was ctrl, alt, backspace, then restart x
to clear the pburn screen

Next did full install to ext 4 partition

added seamonkey 2.21
Xscreensaver
Shermans Pet
Abiword 2.90 pet
Audacious
Bibletime
tcl-8 5 6
tck-8 5 6
wbar lucid pet

tried getflash from menu >internet>getflash this did not work
added getflash-0.4 pet and then worked ok


Except for problem with pburn and getflash everything looks good

rerwin:

Keep these coming sir... a very worthy project.

Cheers.....Chris.

I did another manual frugal install to a 16gb SDHC card but it's using
the backup savefile from my flash drive install,these two pc's share
the same monitors.

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Sun 6 Oct 2013 on Lucid 528 Linux 2.6.33.2 i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller:nVidiaCorporationG84 [GeForce 8600 GT] (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: G84 Board - p402h00 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver: vesa
X.Org version: 1.7.6
dimensions: 3360x1080 pixels (898x292 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 8600 GT/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 319.60

Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
Core 0: @2393 1: @2393 2: @2393 3: @2393 MHz

It's working well.

Some of us are on slow and noisy internet websites and we need an official MD5 sum!

I have had to download lupu-5.2.8.6-20131004.iso two times now and have different MD5 amounts.

When did the MD5 sum become obsolete?

Sorry to have omitted checksums for my lupu 5.2.8.6 ISO files. I am accustomed to uploading pet packages, which handle checksums internally. I have now included a ".md5" file in the (mediafire) Disk Images directory. Here is what it contains:Don922, thanks for alerting me to the omission.

majorfoo,
Thanks for your report. I included the latest versions of pburn and getflash; maybe there is some incompatibility at work here. I hope zigbert sees your pburn result. Could you say more about what you saw with the included getflash, so shinobar might be able to advise us about it? For both issues, could you (in a fresh, non-updated session) run getflash, then pburn, restart X, then create a pdiag file for diagnosis, in case it has related error messages? Thanks for any help on this.
Richard

rerwin wrote:

• Added packages

- momanager-20131002 from shinobar

Actually from L18L - it's a fork of the official Momanager by Barry Kauler.

***EDIT***

rerwin wrote:Please tell me if I need to add more to assist translation. Although it is not practical to internationalize everything in lupu, I am willing to add packages of internationalized versions of specific applications, if they are not dependent on kernels later than 2.6.33. Just request them.

No need to replace. In the case of scripts that can't be updated, we can simply add gettext. Note also that the scripts gettexted by rodin.s are specifically from Lupu 528-004, they aren't scripts from the latest Puppy builds. If you updated some applications, these are likely to be arleady gettexted (pMusic for example) or have gettext versions (PupClockset).

Also note: Momanager requires the devx to work, unless you modify it to work without it (by including gettext out of the box, etc.).

rerwin wrote:
majorfoo,
Thanks for your report. I included the latest versions of pburn and getflash; maybe there is some incompatibility at work here. I hope zigbert sees your pburn result. Could you say more about what you saw with the included getflash, so shinobar might be able to advise us about it? For both issues, could you (in a fresh, non-updated session) run getflash, then pburn, restart X, then create a pdiag file for diagnosis, in case it has related error messages? Thanks for any help on this.
Richard

Booted my original copy of iso, installed seamonkey browser and tried to run Getflash install Flashplayer from menu >Internet

Received following message:

Unable to connect to Server, Please check your internet connection.

I am on the internet with browser minimized when trying to run getflash and above message appears. If I install Get Flash-04.pet, then it downloads ok

I cannot recreate the problem with Pburn today using original ISO

I have tried this twice and works just fine today. I probably had a senior moment yesterday.