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Lucid Puppy 5.2.8 - Updated ISO Version 005 - APR 05 2012
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mikeslr


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PostPosted: Tue 05 Jun 2012, 10:38    Post subject: The Saluki Way  

Actually smokey01, the Saluki way is more elegant. Its ISO contains a core module and an adrive. The adrive contains a few light apps usually found in Puppy. Saluki will load the adrive if it finds it, but if you didn't copy it from the ISO, or remove it from Saluki's directory, Saluki boots as, essentially, a "Barebones" Puppy with two additional great apps. One is a "Custom-Builder" by which you can create your own adrive using the pets found in Saluki's repo and your own. The other is an SFS Builder. I haven't used it, but believe it works the same way as "Custom-Builder." During its build process Custom-Builder performs checks for dependencies and libs and will download them. So if you limit yourself to the pets in Saluki's repo you're not likely to end up with non-functional applications. Custom-builder also allows you to "remaster" the entire Puplet, including changing its kernel. The result is that you end up with a Puplet just the way you want it, containing as little or as much as you want.

I can only marvel at jemimah's genius and hope that other devs examine the code she used to create Custom-builder and adapt it to future Puppies. That said, for some reason, Playdaz's most recent incarnation of Lupu remains the Puppy I almost always boot into. Maybe its because I prefer openbox-fbpanel-DaveS's-Launcher and desktop-drive-icons as an interface to Saluki's Xfce.

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sunburnt


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PostPosted: Tue 05 Jun 2012, 13:54    Post subject:  

At 137 MB it doesn`t seem to be what I`m talking about, not bare bones at all.
I tried to download it, but the page was blank, maybe I`ll try again.

Using SFS files still has the legacy package problem of lib. conflicts.
That`s what`s so nice about self-contained apps., they live in a sand box.
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playdayz


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PostPosted: Wed 06 Jun 2012, 19:24    Post subject:  

Firefox 13 for Lucid

http://diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/Firefox-13-Lucid.pet

Seamonkey 2.10 for Lucid

http://diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/Seakonkey-2.10-Lucid.pet

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PostPosted: Wed 06 Jun 2012, 19:30    Post subject:  

To Playdayz


Make sure you update Lucid Puppy to Puppy Backup

It has more features than pmirror

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=77685
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Jun 2012, 00:03    Post subject: Saluki -- Just to clear the record  

@ sunburnt,

I don't know about Saluki022 which jemimah labeled experimental. I'm still running 021. Although the ISO is 130 megs, if you exclude adrive and the files needed to boot from a CD the rest is shy of 87 megs.
And while I agree with you in preferring self-contained SFSes*, I am unaware of any Saluki pet which conflicts with any other Saluki pet. Consequently, I don't know of any way an SFS built from Saluki pets will conflict with any other SFS built from Saluki pets.

* I prefer what Playdaz referred to as "Program Folders" a couple of years back, since they are "self-contained".

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PostPosted: Thu 07 Jun 2012, 02:58    Post subject: sound and webcam laptop acer aspire 4830z  

hi everyone, i'm sorry to ask you all.
yesterday i bought a new acer aspire 4830z. but it's no sound and lupu can't detect my webcam when i open my guvcview.
in my experience, lupu 528 is more stable than other puppy.
dpup and slacko can handle my sound, but sometimes my screen going to black.
can anyone tell me how to get sound and webcam in lupu 528 in my acer aspire 4830?

thanks.
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cthisbear

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PostPosted: Thu 07 Jun 2012, 06:36    Post subject:  

Specs:

http://laptopsoft.com/acer-aspire-timelinex-4830tg-review-and-specifications/

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More.

http://support.acer.com/acerpanam/notebook/2011/Acer/Aspire/Aspire4830TG/Aspire4830TGsp2.shtml

NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 540M with 2048 MB of dedicated DDR3 VRAM, supporting NVIDIA® CUDA™, PhysX™, PureVideo® HD technology, OpenEXR High Dynamic-Range (HDR) technology, Shader Model 5.0, Microsoft® DirectX® 11

NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 540M with 1024 MB of dedicated DDR3 VRAM, supporting NVIDIA® CUDA™, PhysX™, PureVideo® HD technology, OpenEXR High Dynamic-Range (HDR) technology, Shader Model 5.0, Microsoft® DirectX® 11

NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 520M with 1024 MB of dedicated DDR3 VRAM, supporting NVIDIA® CUDA™, PhysX™, PureVideo® HD technology, OpenEXR High Dynamic-Range (HDR) technology, Shader Model 5.0, Microsoft® DirectX® 11

Output technologies7
Two built-in Acer 3DSonic stereo speakers
High-definition audio support
S/PDIF (Sony/Philips Digital Interface)8 support for digital speakers
MS-Sound compatible
Built-in digital microphone

Webcam Acer Video Conference1, featuring:

Acer Crystal Eye webcam with 1280 x 1024 resolution
Acer Video Conference Manager software, featuring Video Quality Enhancement (VQE) technology, supporting 640 x 480 resolution online video calls10

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Not much Linux info to add...on my searches.

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OscarTalks

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PostPosted: Thu 07 Jun 2012, 12:56    Post subject:  

Playdayz,

Is the Audacious link supposed to download an updated .pet now?
Doesn't seem to download anything for me except a blank file.

It is a nice player so thanks for chasing up the wma stream functionality thing.

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bigpup


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PostPosted: Thu 07 Jun 2012, 15:46    Post subject: Re: sound and webcam laptop acer aspire 4830z  

recobayu wrote:

yesterday i bought a new acer aspire 4830z. but it's no sound
can anyone tell me how to get sound in lupu 528 in my acer aspire 4830?
thanks.

Make sure you have the latest version of Lupu. 5.2.8.005

Try this:
Quote:
Sound muted on boot. Right-click the speaker icon in the system tray and choose Full Window. Enable Master, PCM, Front and any others that seem likely and also turn up the volume in each. This should fix things a good percentage of the time. If not, then please try Menu -> Setup -> Alsa Sound Wizard.

If no sound, open Menu -> Multimedia -> Alsamixer (alsamixer, not alsawizard). Press F6 and that will show you what sound devices have been detected and configured. If yours is not the top one then arrow down and click it, then make sure everything plausible is turned up. I have to do this with my “second” sound card (an M-Audio). Then to play through the M-Audio I use Audacious but one can also use Pmusic and any other audio player that allows you to choose which device to play through. I have to this also with my M-Audio and I use Audacious -> File -> Preferences -> Output Plugin Preferences to choose the card I want.

If none of this works, then try alsawizard. The thing about alsawizard is that after it runs there is only one device configured--if that is the device you want then good, otherwise .....

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PostPosted: Thu 07 Jun 2012, 20:06    Post subject:  

Quote:
Is the Audacious link supposed to download an updated .pet now?
Doesn't seem to download anything for me except a blank file.

Oscar Talks, You were right. I don't know what happened. It should be OK now. Here's the link again -> http://www.diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/audacious-3.2.3-2.pet

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i bought a new acer aspire 4830z. but it's no sound

Brand new computers can be a problem for Lucid. If a little tinkering doesn't help, as Bigpup suggests, then it may be a driver issue. If so, then a newer Puppy would be the answer.
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gcmartin

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PostPosted: Fri 08 Jun 2012, 16:21    Post subject:  

playdayz wrote:
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i bought a new acer aspire 4830z. but it's no sound
Brand new computers can be a problem for Lucid. If a little tinkering doesn't help, as Bigpup suggests, then it may be a driver issue. If so, then a newer Puppy would be the answer.
I would recommend either of the 4 following distros (all of these, save 1, are "beta", but function well with excellent performance and stability on new PCs)
  1. 64bit
  2. 32bit
And, there are others (like Exprimo, etc.) in Puppyland, as well.

My definition on "full feature" relates to their ability to support newer (since 2006) technology in the LAN, OOTB, and full-featured Office offering built-in with JAVA.

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PostPosted: Fri 08 Jun 2012, 17:56    Post subject:  

lucid puppy is the only puppy that works with my acer aspire one 722
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PostPosted: Sat 09 Jun 2012, 02:30    Post subject:  

Program updates:

Pmusic 2.6.2
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=31206

Pburn 3.6.0
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=23881
Make sure to check required dependency files list. Some new features require additional files.

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PostPosted: Sat 09 Jun 2012, 13:07    Post subject:  

Must have update for "GetFlash install Flashplayer".

The ever moving target URL for "Adobe Flash Player". They have changed it again, so need the new version of "GetFlash install Flashplayer" so Getflash will work.
getflash-1.1
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=74491

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PostPosted: Sat 09 Jun 2012, 18:54    Post subject:  

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The ever moving target URL for "Adobe Flash Player". They have changed it again, so need the new version of "GetFlash install Flashplayer" so Getflash will work.
getflash-1.1
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=74491

Sure enough. Thanks to shinobar and Bigpup for catching it. It makes me feel better about using Google Chrome (which has flashplayer built-in) -> http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=630570#630570
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