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shinobar


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PostPosted: Wed 22 Feb 2012, 19:30    Post_subject: GetFlash install Flashplayer  

getflash-0.8.pet
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=74491

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PostPosted: Wed 22 Feb 2012, 19:36    Post_subject:  

stiginge wrote:

I've backversed from 529 to 528, no joy with wifi however. All my files and settings copied over with the new savefile, but the wifi is still playing up in 528. The wifi is working with 431, however that is NOT the version I want to be running.

Maybe something here will help with your WiFi.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=59000
A lot of WiFi driver issues solved by what is posted in this link.

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I've backversed save file from 529 to 528

So the experiment worked. I guess only thing important is, that the save file comes from a version of Lucid Puppy and has name lupusave or been changed from lucisave to lupusave.

Playdayz used lucisave for the testing (alpha, beta) versions of Lucid Puppy. Thus, 529 uses lucisave.
The release versions (like 528) use lupusave.

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PostPosted: Wed 22 Feb 2012, 20:00    Post_subject: Re: GetFlash install Flashplayer  

shinobar wrote:
getflash-0.8.pet
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=74491

shinobar,

Is this getflash-0.8 the same, update, or different from the flash_install-0.1?
ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pet_packages-lucid/flash_install-0.1.pet

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PostPosted: Sat 25 Feb 2012, 16:13    Post_subject:  

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Is this getflash-0.8 the same, update, or different from the flash_install-0.1?

Different I think Bigpup. flash-install was a simple program 01micko made when Adobe started moving the location of the flashplayer binary. it is simple and manual but I like it because it shouldn't become obsolete. It is in all of the latest Lucid's.

Iron 17
I am convinced now that Iron is quicker than Google Chrome even though based on the same Chromium open-source code, probably because Iron does not phone home with your personal info all the time.
http://diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/Iron-17-lucid528.pet
Nope, something is wrong with Iron 17 - it doesn't work right on weather.com
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PostPosted: Sat 25 Feb 2012, 17:09    Post_subject:  

getflash-0.8 is simply shinobar's improvement on my original. I use it in slacko and even replace Barry's new code (in delayedrun) to call getflash. Works well, even registers flash in the petget database so it can be uninstalled with PPM. Classic open source at work. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun 26 Feb 2012, 00:21    Post_subject: Response to reported TESTING001a Issues -- Patch-1  

After a hiatus to allow a fractured arm to return to usefulness, I have looked into the problem reports and have picked up some of the recent safely portable woof fixes described in Barry's blog.

The reports were summarized by playdayz in a PM to me, so I will address each of them:
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1) one person's usb mouse didn't work correctly.
2) one person's usb printer was not detected.
The only USB-related change I know of is the addition of the USB3 driver. The new patch package contains a temporary tool to disable the USB3 driver to see if the mouse and printer are discovered. My understanding of the "USB game" is limited, so I welcome opinions from the more knowledgeable. The tool is "pusb3" to be run from the command line. Without any argument, it shows the current status of the USB3 driver. The options are "on", "off" and "--help" (w/o the quotes).


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3) wifi did not reconnect
I discovered two problems:
    - A case entry in the wag-profiles.sh script (r8180|rtl819*|vt665*) CARD_WPA_DRV="wext" ;;) got deleted at the point where a new entry was added. The case involved the new broadcom driver "wl", so I also added that to the case containing the other broadcom names (ath5k*|ath9k*|b43|b43legacy|bcm43xx|wl) CARD_WPA_DRV="wext" ;;). Tempestuous, if that is not appropriate, please tell me to remove the "|wl".
    - The logic to manage the "conflict" with the ssb driver is not consistent with puppy's method. I corrected this by disabling Startup script 00-broadcom-sta.sh that removes and re-modprobes modules, and added preferences "ssb:wl" and "b43:wl", because those sometimes overlap in the modules.alias file. Peebee, please test this re-implementation.

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4) full install asked for a Save file. ("At shutdown I got the question to make a save file (this was full install). Why is that. I thought a full install didn't need a save file?")
The question should be asked only under pupstate 5, which is a bootup by CD or frugal installation without a pupsave file. Therefore, I expect that the question would be asked at the end of the session creating the full installation. In that case, one might save to the same partition as the full installation -- unless that is already done as part of the installation. To pin down the issue: Does the question you reported occur on the first boot of a new full installation (where a partition-save was not done after the installation) or does it happen every shutdown of the installation? (BTW, I am not sure of the legitimacy of doing the partition-save into a full installation.)

Re sound issues: While assessing the proposed woof fix for a sound-card script (10alsa), I discovered that the lsmod command used in the fix and in lupu528 does not produce the expected result. In a loop, it is used to determine whether any sound (snd_) modules are loaded. But no matter how long the every-second tests are made, the sound modules are never found -- even though running lsmod in a console at the time shows the modules as loaded! When I removed the lsmod command from lupu's 10alsa, the speaker icon returned in time for the sound test in the alsa wizard! So, I have removed the lsmod test and substitute a short sleep command to allow time for loading; the duration can be increased if necessary. With the functionality restored, I have removed the workaround logic that displays the speaker icon after the sound test is done. And it still works!

Re woof update to the dependency checker: While I would like to bring over that fix, it turns out to be riskier than it looks. Although the latest fix is straightforward, the checker relies on another script (findmissingpkgs.sh) that differs significantly from the lupu version. Although I am eager to try porting the necessary components, I don't feel that I can test it thoroughly; I will need the help of a tester who can "wring it out". So, that is not in the patch package, but is not ruled out at this time.

The fixes I did port from woof are the following:
    - "'filemnt' bug fix" - Posted on 20 Feb 2012, 17:49 - npierce: bugfix /usr/sbin/filemnt, sfs files of same name
    - "Unmounting network shares" - Posted on 19 Feb 2012, 8:30 - All types: cifs, smbfs, nfs, sshfs
    - "Pupdial empty password/username" - Posted on 18 Feb 2012, 9:38 - Restored 'Stupid mode' labels, but also sets stupid mode if login omitted.
    - "Woof fixes" - Posted on 26 Jan 2012, 8:43 - jemimah: puppyinstaller: clear SELECTIONS variable, add ntfs exclusion; noryb009: fix typo in usr/local/petget/installpkg.sh

If problems are still encountered after installing the patch, please run "pmodemdiag" and post/PM the pmodemdiag...tar.gz file it produces. Thanks for testing this.
Richard
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PostPosted: Sun 26 Feb 2012, 00:41    Post_subject:  

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4) full install asked for a Save file. ("At shutdown I got the question to make a save file (this was full install). Why is that. I thought a full install didn't need a save file?")
The question should be asked only under pupstate 5, which is a bootup by CD or frugal installation without a pupsave file. Therefore, I expect that the question would be asked at the end of the session creating the full installation. In that case, one might save to the same partition as the full installation -- unless that is already done as part of the installation. To pin down the issue: Does the question you reported occur on the first boot of a new full installation (where a partition-save was not done after the installation) or does it happen every shutdown of the installation? (BTW, I am not sure of the legitimacy of doing the partition-save into a full installation.)

What may be happening is:
He is running Puppy from a live CD with no save file. (initial boot).
Does full install of Puppy.
Reboots or shuts down.
Because he was running Puppy from Live CD, making save file is asked.
Even if you remove live CD and reboot, to run the full install, it will still ask to make save file.
This is not what happens, with other operating system live CD's, when used to install operating system.
It is a little confusing, for a new user, who does not understand, what a save file is all about, in Puppy.

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PostPosted: Sun 26 Feb 2012, 05:18    Post_subject: Server  

Dear fellow dog lovers...

I like to make various live CDs, with CMS and ERP solutions like Joomla, Drupal and WebERP.

To do this I use Growlers great LHMP package.

So I wonder. Since Puppy already has the Hiawatha webserver installed...

A) Is it version 7.3 og 8.0 of Hiawhata webserver installed at the 2.5.8.004?

B) Was there at some point also something like Sqlite in Lucid or was that in a another version of Puppy?

C) Are there anyone that has made a Pet out of a lightweight database solution for Lupu?

Apart from that, big thumb up for the crew developing the Lupu. Its a great solution and my preferred OS.
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PostPosted: Sun 26 Feb 2012, 06:26    Post_subject:  

rerwin:

Chia seed is very good for helping fractures.

Natural iron, calcium, magnesium etc.

A little sitting in the sun is good for the soul.

Hope that you are on the mend.

Chris.
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PostPosted: Sun 26 Feb 2012, 09:29    Post_subject: Re: Response to reported TESTING001a Issues -- Patch-1  

rerwin wrote:
After a hiatus to allow a fractured arm to return to usefulness, I have looked into the problem reports and have picked up many of the recent safely portable woof fixes described in Barry's blog.

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3) wifi did not reconnect
I discovered two problems:

    - The logic to manage the "conflict" with the ssb driver is not consistent with puppy's method. I corrected this by disabling Startup script 00-broadcom-sta.sh that removes and re-modprobes modules, and added preferences "ssb:wl" and "b43:wl", because those sometimes overlap in the modules.alias file. Peebee, please test this re-implementation.

Richard


Hi Richard
Sorry to hear about your arm - hope its healing well..

Added your pet to the lupu528TESTING system - it worked in the sense that after a reboot the wl driver & eth1 were no longer being used - the system had reverted to the b43 & wlan0. Output from lsmod is attached and shows that BOTH wl and b43 are loaded - but it is b43 that is being used.

BTW - this experiment prompted me to do my first compile and first pet - the latest Broadcom STA driver for slacko - see:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=75209&start=377
which works fine in slacko and survives a reboot (b43 has to be manually blacklisted).

Cheers
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PostPosted: Sun 26 Feb 2012, 16:25    Post_subject:  

peebee, cthisbear,
Thanks for your concern about my arm. Yes, it seems to be healing well. I have resumed most of my normal activities, but must remember to avoid overloading the arm. I just have to wait out the "achey" period.

peebee,
Your result with b43 and wl is interesting. Could you send me a pmodemdiag file so I can see how it happened? Those drivers and ssb are tricky, in that b43 is loaded either by- or instead of ssb, depending on the actual hardware. B43 is not directly identified by the modaliases, so probably does not get loaded by the puppy backend_modprobe script, bypassing any preference processing. But I would like to check the logs, to verify that I can remove the "b43:wl" preference. It is puzzling, though, that wl got loaded as well as b43. Thanks for the test.
Richard
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PostPosted: Sun 26 Feb 2012, 16:52    Post_subject:  

rerwin wrote:
Your result with b43 and wl is interesting. Could you send me a pmodemdiag file so I can see how it happened?
Richard


Hi Richard

pmodemdiag sent by PM.

It maybe that b43 is the "correct" driver for my bcm4311 - it is also supported by the wl driver if that is forced into use.

Cheers
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PostPosted: Sun 26 Feb 2012, 17:38    Post_subject: Remastering problems  

What could be the cause of this text during remastering?
I never noticed what this said earlier, as things worked, but now i does not, so I find this....

Post has been edited due to this new observation.

Could it be corrupt ISO that I mounted?

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PostPosted: Sun 26 Feb 2012, 20:40    Post_subject:  

rerwin

hope you continue to heal and feel better.

I have not had problems with my broadcom wifi as others reported here
and have not installed the patch.

wifi connect on eth1 with wl driver.

if you do need testing with mine shown below will gladly test for you.

sh-4.1# lspci -vnn | grep 14e4
03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation
BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:4727] (rev 01)
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PostPosted: Sun 26 Feb 2012, 21:38    Post_subject:  

Finally getting around to moving from the original Lucid 528 to 528.004. Fresh manual frugal install. on the Athlon XP box.Zero problems....everything working out of the box.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Lucid , version 528

Chip description:
oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

Driver used by Xorg:
nvidia

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video

# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
14280 frames in 5.0 seconds
14353 frames in 5.0 seconds
13961 frames in 5.0 seconds
13882 frames in 5.0 seconds
13573 frames in 5.0 seconds
13768 frames in 5.0 seconds
13925 frames in 5.0 seconds
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