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Next Puppy 5.0.2 29 September 2011
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Sat 01 Oct 2011, 03:42    Post subject:  

JWM F11 bug has been fixed in latest version. Barry Kauler has uploaded recent JWM 505 version pet. I test compiled jwm binary and it fixed the F11 bug.
Barrys package is in ibiblio under pet_packages-common repo. Just feed the last phrase to the google or whatever.
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PostPosted: Sat 01 Oct 2011, 04:33    Post subject:  

Meet the new Next Puppy desktop Cool
gtk-theme-switch_DOC-2.1.0.pet
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PostPosted: Sat 01 Oct 2011, 08:58    Post subject:  

1st off let me start by sayin this is problably the dreaded user error issue I usually have lol.

I installed all the pets to check out the new desktop of next puppy & once installed I drop to x to start openbox.

Tried start openbox did not go then tried xwin openbox it seemed like it was going to work loaded up a black screen with mouse cursor but thats all. I think it locked my keyboard out as well cuz it would not let me ctrl+alt+backspace to get back out.

Then tried with e16 pet xwin e16 & got the same results as with openbox.

Any info on what im probably doing wrong would be great Smile thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: Sat 01 Oct 2011, 09:10    Post subject:  

Right-click is your friend. Openbox has no tray/slit/whatever and the wallpaper is not set (feh is your friend, too).

Right-click and see Openbox in all its glory.

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PostPosted: Sat 01 Oct 2011, 09:22    Post subject:  

I tried right clicking left clicking & every function key I got Smile 1-12 & nothin happened. Thats why i think it disabled my keyboard. As I said its probably user error I will try again later & report back Smile
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PostPosted: Sat 01 Oct 2011, 09:56    Post subject:  

Make sure the Openbox binary doesn't segfault.

By the way - I'm writing build scripts for the latest Xfce 4.8.x and I also have a plan to try a bleedin' edge git checkout. Smile

Xfce is by far my favorite under majro distros - I used it under Zenwalk, Arch, Ubuntu and many other distros back in my early Linux days. I still have sentiments for it ... so I want to see if I can make a < 120 MB puplet with it Smile

EDIT: still compiling, but almost the whole thing is ready. Take a look at the numbers - very impressive!

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40K garcon/garcon-0.1.9.pet
24K garcon/garcon_NLS-0.1.9.pet
36K garcon/garcon_DOC-0.1.9.pet
8.0K garcon/garcon_DEV-0.1.9.pet
4.0K gtk-xfce-engine/gtk-xfce-engine_DEV-2.9.0.pet
24K gtk-xfce-engine/gtk-xfce-engine-2.9.0.pet
100K libwnck/libwnck-2.30.7.pet
308K libwnck/libwnck_NLS-2.30.7.pet
12K libwnck/libwnck_DEV-2.30.7.pet
64K libwnck/libwnck_DOC-2.30.7.pet
8.0K libxfce4ui/libxfce4ui_DEV-4.8.0.pet
28K libxfce4ui/libxfce4ui_NLS-4.8.0.pet
32K libxfce4ui/libxfce4ui_DOC-4.8.0.pet
32K libxfce4ui/libxfce4ui-4.8.0.pet
24K libxfce4util/libxfce4util-4.8.2.pet
48K libxfce4util/libxfce4util_NLS-4.8.2.pet
32K libxfce4util/libxfce4util_DOC-4.8.2.pet
8.0K libxfce4util/libxfce4util_DEV-4.8.2.pet
332K xfce4-panel/xfce4-panel-4.8.6.pet
304K xfce4-panel/xfce4-panel_DOC-4.8.6.pet
16K xfce4-panel/xfce4-panel_DEV-4.8.6.pet
348K xfce4-panel/xfce4-panel_NLS-4.8.6.pet
60K xfconf/xfconf_NLS-4.8.0.pet
4.0K xfconf/xfconf_DEV-4.8.0.pet
24K xfconf/xfconf_DOC-4.8.0.pet
48K xfconf/xfconf-4.8.0.pet
292K Thunar/Thunar-1.3.0.pet
1.1M Thunar/Thunar_NLS-1.3.0.pet
1.9M Thunar/Thunar_DOC-1.3.0.pet
8.0K Thunar/Thunar_DEV-1.3.0.pet
240K xfce4-settings/xfce4-settings_NLS-4.9.0.pet
116K xfce4-settings/xfce4-settings-4.9.0.pet
456K xfce4-session/xfce4-session-4.8.2.pet
276K xfce4-session/xfce4-session_DOC-4.8.2.pet
4.0K xfce4-session/xfce4-session_DEV-4.8.2.pet
248K xfce4-session/xfce4-session_NLS-4.8.2.pet
548K xfwm4/xfwm4_DOC-4.8.2.pet
200K xfwm4/xfwm4_NLS-4.8.2.pet
288K xfwm4/xfwm4-4.8.2.pet
7.5M total


This means you can get a basic Xfce in 1.8 MB (no documentation, development packages and locales). Amazing! With the missing packages I assume it won't be more than 2.5 MB, which is still very small.

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PostPosted: Sat 01 Oct 2011, 14:59    Post subject:  

Hi
Iguleder wrote:

I'm writing build scripts for the latest Xfce 4.8.x and I also have a plan to try a bleedin' edge git checkout......
Xfce is by far my favorite under majro distros .....

Iguleder thats sounds great. Laughing
Xfce4 is more appropriate for my woman and my children
So i can spare time to develop a xfce4.6.X pet (most done) Razz


By the way testing the 29.09.2011 version
petget missed.
Code:

/usr/local/petget/installpkg.sh: line 38: /etc/xdg/menus/hierarchy: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /etc/xdg/templates: No such file or directory


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PostPosted: Sat 01 Oct 2011, 21:15    Post subject:  

Did some playing in Gimp today & came up with these. Thought you might like to use them for Next Puppy.



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PostPosted: Sun 02 Oct 2011, 02:24    Post subject: Nice!  

Great looking artwork! I'm a fan of xfce, so that sounds good. Good luck, hope to try this out soon. Thanks, Rob
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PostPosted: Mon 03 Oct 2011, 12:48    Post subject:  

Made a background for Next Pup.


Next Puppy by J. P. Stunna, on Flickr
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PostPosted: Mon 03 Oct 2011, 14:56    Post subject:  

Sorry to let you down, guys - it's totally messed up. Xfce 4.8 (unlike 4.6) is more modern and wants D-Bus so badly the settings manager won't work due to D-Bus related problems I don't understand.

Also, the menus are messed up and I have no idea how to make them work right.

And the wallpaper is lovely! Smile

I think I'll try it with Openbox.

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PostPosted: Mon 03 Oct 2011, 16:53    Post subject:  

Iguleder,

This quote is from gray's Wary NOP thread.

gray wrote:
As with previous NOPs the window manager is XFCE which replaces JWM. I have stuck with XFCE 4.6.2 as 4.8 is still flaky IMHO.


So maybe the lastest Xfce is not needed, but rather the latest stable version of it.
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PostPosted: Thu 06 Oct 2011, 02:57    Post subject:  

4.8.x is a stable version, but I don't know how good it is with Puppy. Anyway, I think it's a bad idea to stick with an older version, since one day it will no longer compile ... and it has many bugs that no one's going to fix for us.

I'm still doing the Openbox experiment - I was able to make smaller ISOs so far.

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PostPosted: Thu 06 Oct 2011, 08:11    Post subject:  

Openbox + mc + mplayer + feh = lightweight killer combo Cool
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PostPosted: Thu 06 Oct 2011, 15:47    Post subject:  

I'm trying to build my first 13.37 spup at the moment.

There are three experiments I'd like to do:
- Openbox Smile
- Trinity (the KDE 3.x fork) - I'd like to see if it's possible to build a lightweight KDE 3.x desktop based on this amazing project
- FVWM!

EDIT: I'm building an all-in-one build same as 29092011, but with Abiword, Gnumeric, mhWaveEdit, Osmo, Xpad, XChat and Geany Smile

EDIT: its 101 MB, with all the above. This is amazing. Surprised

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