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mikeslr

Joined: 16 Jun 2008 Posts: 2342 Location: 500 seconds from Sol
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Posted: Fri 05 Aug 2011, 20:36 Post subject:
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Thanks Stu90,
I'm downloading D-Lite now. But I'm about to chill for awhile. I'll report back once its frugally installed and I have something useful to say.
Edit: Temporarily back from chilling. Frugal install of D-Lite on the following system:
Processor: 4x AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 945 Processor
Memory: 3375MB
Resolution: 1600x900x24 pixels
VGA compatible controller: ATI Radeon 3100 Graphics
Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI
From Lupu 5.25
aplay --list-devies reports:
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: VT1708B Analog
SB {HDA ATI SB], device 1: VT1708B Digital
I'll install Hardinfo later and see what D-Lite sees.
The important information is that D-Lite had no difficulty via Xorg providing the best resolution on my system without my having to specify "radeon modeset=0" in the kernel argument. I was able to use "probe" rather than having to "choose" my graphics driver. Thank you Stu90. No difficulty creating SaveFile, and my wireless setting were retained on reboot.
Stu, I would think that it would it be helpful to Barry and devs if a thread or threads were started in which Users and Beginners were to provide detailed information regarding those graphics cards which pose difficulties. Something such as:
ATI Radeon 3100 Graphics. No SaveFile can be created by Slacko 311.37 unless Kernel argument radeon modeset=0 is specified; and
ATI Radeon 3100 Graphics. Maximum screen resolution cannot be obtained by Exprimo unless Kernel argument radeon modeset=0 is specified.
Just from reading the treads, my recollection is that those problems have three variables: kernel, xorgwizard version, and specific graphics card. My card posed a problem to Exprimo, but not to your build or Iguleder's. Others having a different Ati Radeon card experienced different results. Perhaps if the devs had a broad enough survey the problem could be identified or a workaround developed.
I'd suggest it myself, but coming from someone who understands what is involved in building a puplet it might be more significant to devs and testers.
Other information: Both Opera 11 and Firefox 5 are running from /mnt/home without difficulty, including flash which downloaded as soon as I started Opera. Similarly, wine-1.3.3-Lucid and the usual XP portables run without a hitch.
More after I've had some sleep and a chance to explore.
mikesLr
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stu90

Joined: 25 Feb 2010 Posts: 1399 Location: England. Dell Inspiron 1501. Dpup
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Posted: Sat 06 Aug 2011, 06:54 Post subject:
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Thanks for testing and feed back guys - results seem to be a bit of a mixed bag
I have made a new upload of D-Lite with a different xorg_base - i wish i could say i knew what i was doing but im really just shooting in the wind when it comes to these xorg issues.
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Some other stuff i forgot to mention - if you left click on the clock in the tint2 panel it opens mygtkmenu - i made a little text editor (menuedit in the menu) for editing the menu items, the menu it uses is the mygtkmenu.txt one - right mouse click on the clock will open terminal.
Another application i forgot to mention and forgot to make a menu entry for is simpleshot for taking screen shots - you can use it from the terminal with the command: simpleshot
Ymound 0.8 is now included for drive management.
full res:
http://i.imgur.com/IGHUA.png
See top of first post on page 1 for latest version
Download (78mb):
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cheers
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stu90

Joined: 25 Feb 2010 Posts: 1399 Location: England. Dell Inspiron 1501. Dpup
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Posted: Sat 06 Aug 2011, 07:59 Post subject:
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pemasu wrote: | Stu90. For getting cpu temp info to the conky, I have used script /usr/bin/tempcpu and in conky.conf there is a row which calls it.
I attach my transparent conky pet here just that you can study how to get cpu temp reading. Extract the pet, check that separate script and conky.conf row howto call it. |
Thanks Pemasu,
missed it it this upload but have it now ready for next upload - interesting thing i noticed about disabling pinboard is that conkys transparency works correctly even after changing wallpapers.
cheers.
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DaveS

Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Posts: 3726 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat 06 Aug 2011, 11:55 Post subject:
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same black screen
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stu90

Joined: 25 Feb 2010 Posts: 1399 Location: England. Dell Inspiron 1501. Dpup
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Posted: Sat 06 Aug 2011, 14:43 Post subject:
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DaveS wrote: | same black screen  |
Hi DaveS
Thanks for sticking with it and testing - i have managed to get radeon auto detected with the dpup xorg_base package
i haven't changed anything else in there relating to other drivers like i did in the first two builds so hopefully this next build should work.
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Iguleder

Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 2031 Location: Israel, somewhere in the beautiful desert
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Posted: Sat 06 Aug 2011, 14:49 Post subject:
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Good news, stu90 - I reduced the number of packages in Squeeze from 406 in alpha 2 to 271. I guess it won't boot, because I stripped so many stuff.
It's totally naked, no multimedia support at all now. Many leftover libraries and junk is out ... the plan is to build a Puppy with this truly barebones base and Fluxbox, then build some very minimalistic desktop.
Thanks for the inspiration and for showing me the way when I get lost in sweet E17 and Firefox dreams
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jim3630

Joined: 13 Feb 2011 Posts: 792 Location: Northern Nevada
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Posted: Sat 06 Aug 2011, 16:03 Post subject:
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stu90 wrote: | Thanks for testing and feed back guys - results seem to be a bit of a mixed bag
I have made a new upload of D-Lite with a different xorg_base - i wish i could say i knew what i was doing but im really just shooting in the wind when it comes to these xorg issues.
Edit:
Some other stuff i forgot to mention - if you left click on the clock in the tint2 panel it opens mygtkmenu - i made a little text editor (menuedit in the menu) for editing the menu items, the menu it uses is the mygtkmenu.txt one - right mouse click on the clock will open terminal.
Another application i forgot to mention and forgot to make a menu entry for is simpleshot for taking screen shots - you can use it from the terminal with the command: simpleshot
Ymound 0.8 is now included for drive management.
full res:
http://i.imgur.com/IGHUA.png
Download (78mb):
http://ubuntuone.com/p/18ha/
Md5:
e9c4ec0c8df438221414fcc248b54148
squeeze-5.0.3.iso
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stu downloaded x3 couldn't get correct checksums nor mount and copy files.
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James C

Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 6717 Location: Kentucky
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Posted: Sat 06 Aug 2011, 16:20 Post subject:
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For what its worth, got a good md5 here on first try.
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jim3630

Joined: 13 Feb 2011 Posts: 792 Location: Northern Nevada
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Posted: Sat 06 Aug 2011, 19:47 Post subject:
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James C wrote: | For what its worth, got a good md5 here on first try. |
ok, it's me then will try again.
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tried again with aria2c and failed, noted it did not have the total size and give the usual % as it downloaded. now got matching checksums by using browser builtin downloader, wget iirc.
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stu90

Joined: 25 Feb 2010 Posts: 1399 Location: England. Dell Inspiron 1501. Dpup
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Posted: Sun 07 Aug 2011, 01:12 Post subject:
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Iguleder wrote: | Good news, stu90 - I reduced the number of packages in Squeeze from 406 in alpha 2 to 271. I guess it won't boot, because I stripped so many stuff.
It's totally naked, no multimedia support at all now. Many leftover libraries and junk is out ... the plan is to build a Puppy with this truly barebones base and Fluxbox, then build some very minimalistic desktop.
Thanks for the inspiration and for showing me the way when I get lost in sweet E17 and Firefox dreams  |
Thanks Iguleder
You removed a fair few packages there what size did you get the .iso down to?
After much trial, error and comparison im pretty sure the problem in the dpup xorg_core package is a fairly simple one due a lack of lib_drmradeon and its sym-links.
In the past two build i corrected this but also messed up some sym-links for some of the other driver libs so that probably explains why DaveS and jim3630 couldn't get to the desktop - hopefully now both issues should be corrected in this new build (uploading now)
I seem to have dropped 10mb of ram usage as well -with your new 2.6.39 kernel openbox + tint2 + conky for me is is using 40mb ram
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stu90

Joined: 25 Feb 2010 Posts: 1399 Location: England. Dell Inspiron 1501. Dpup
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Posted: Sun 07 Aug 2011, 01:19 Post subject:
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jim3630 wrote: |
stu downloaded x3 couldn't get correct checksums nor mount and copy files. |
Hi jim3630,
I think this maybe has something to do with the ubuntu one hosting - i am/was using it uploading through web browser but the service seems to be buggy - one of the upload used my internet bandwidth but didn't show up in the file list
I have uploaded the next build with ftp to Smokey01's server.
cheers.
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stu90

Joined: 25 Feb 2010 Posts: 1399 Location: England. Dell Inspiron 1501. Dpup
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Posted: Sun 07 Aug 2011, 01:26 Post subject:
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New build 5.0.5 is uploaded - added a new wallpaper and updated to Ymount 0.8.1 - this build is using the dpup xorg_core package so hopefully this should boot for every one
See top of first post on page one for latest version
Download (78mb) :
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DaveS

Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Posts: 3726 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun 07 Aug 2011, 03:51 Post subject:
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OK, great. Got a functioning system now. I have a question.... why does the 23oz theme (GTK) not work?
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pemasu

Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Posts: 5484 Location: Finland
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Posted: Sun 07 Aug 2011, 04:18 Post subject:
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Stu90. Could you post for me or pm the prochedure which you did to get radeon working.
And it is helpful to hear that radeon problem has been hopefully resolved. I would like to implement your fix to my next version.
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stu90

Joined: 25 Feb 2010 Posts: 1399 Location: England. Dell Inspiron 1501. Dpup
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Posted: Sun 07 Aug 2011, 06:13 Post subject:
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DaveS wrote: | OK, great. Got a functioning system now. I have a question.... why does the 23oz theme (GTK) not work? |
Hi DaveS that is good to hear you can now get to desktop
Regarding themes i removed wrong package, i have corrected this for the next build but in the meantime this .pet should work.
cheers.
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