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[pemasu]

Backi. /root/my-applications/bin/nosaveshutdown script has been included since the Exprimo you first time posted about your need. It works as it works.
But the script has been there all the time since your post. That script has issues as you know. But your need is the kind personal tuning that somekind own searching and testing is needed.

[James C]

[backi]

HI pemasu !

Backi. /root/my-applications/bin/nosaveshutdown script has been included since the Exprimo you first time posted about your need. It works as it works.
But the script has been there all the time since your post. That script has issues as you know. But your need is the kind personal tuning that somekind own searching and testing is needed.


Didn't know this. will have a look .

Thanks

[peebee]

Hi pemasu

I like the idea of having separate sfs's for things like office applications....

however after adding the abiword / gnumeric sfs, documents will not open with either a click or by selecting the open option from the right-click menu.

Is there something missing from the sfs to allow this integration to happen?

Thanks
peebee

[pemasu]

It is possible I have not included needed folders to perform the right mime open commands. I thought they were included. I will test the working tomorrow later.

[pemasu]

Peebee. Well. Tv movie wasnt so good. I checked the sfs already. It missed some of the stuff I thought was there. Now it should be fixed. The updated abiword-2.9.0-gnumeric-1.10.13-goffice-0.8.12-dpup.sfs is now in the pet_packages-repo. Mime types and rox right clicks should now work for .abw, .doc, .xls, .gnumeric...at least.

Thank you Peebee. It is much less work when someone finds the need for fix and you know what to look for. Really helpful.

[Superdooper]

Thanks for the hard work Pemasu. Just downloaded and running live cd. So far everything is working great on the old gateway! Everything is running a lot smoother than with 5.2.8 so far. Good Job!

[peebee]

[backi]

Hi Folks !
Shut down with no saving.
Used this script in dpupexprimo and Three Headed Dog :

#!/bin/sh
# skips rc.shutdown and powers off computer without saving the session.
Xdialog --title "script $0" --yesno "\n\nAre you sure to power-off computer WITHOUT saving?\n\n" 0 0
[ $? -eq 0 ] && rm /initrd/pup_ro1/etc/.XLOADED && rm /etc/.XLOADED
exec /bin/busybox poweroff

In DpupExprimo you find it here:

" /root/my-applications/bin/nosaveshutdown script has been included since the Exprimo you first time posted about your need. It works as it works. "

Does work so far Shutdown without save, but not in every case.
Try to explain what i experienced.

For example: installed Iron-13 pet >shutdown with no save option (fast shutdown)
after restart- bootup this programm-browser still there (despite shutting down with no save)
For example installed an opera deb >shutdown with no save option (fast shutdown)
after restart- bootup this programm-browser still there (despite shutting down with no save)
(this programms don't appear as installed in PPM- if this may give some information)

Then did a test installing an hpprinter driver pet (indicated as installed in PPM) or made changes remove builtin packages then
>shutdown with no save option (fast shutdown)
after restart- bootup this installation-changes are not saved

Another example: making a text file saving it as dokument
>shutdown with no save option (fast shutdown)
after restart- bootup this saving is gone.

My thinking is i am running in ram and >shutdown with no save option (fast shutdown) will eliminate all changes during session.

Why these above mentioned pets and debs (there are others too) surpass
>shutdown with no save option (fast shutdown) ?
how do the manage to go to my USB stick despite>shutdown with no save option (fast shutdown) and other pets or debs don't ?

Quite curious.
Somehow these above mentioned pets and debs and others too ,manage to go to my USB stick despite >shutdown with no save option
Some others don't.

I'ḿ quite confused.

[pemasu]

Backi. Have you changed the save session time to 0 in Puppy Session Manager.
Otherwise I dont know why they dont work everytime.
Have you used Scottman posted rc.shutdown method also. Those two are the ones I know. Scottmans method with edited rc.shutdown can be found from forum or I can make installable pet of it.

[pemasu]

Peebee. Those /usr/local/bin default changes are included surely in sfs. Interesting that they dont change the existing ones. When I tested the sfs, it changed the default apps to execute abiword and gnumeric. It looks like the layering system does not handle the sfs as it should. Interesting. Maybe it is question how you load the sfs. Using Boot Manager to load the sfs and then reboot should load the sfs properly and overwrite the existing stuff.

[peebee]

[backi]

Hello pemasu !
Yes i have changed the save session time to 0 in Puppy Session Manager.

"Scottmans method with edited rc.shutdown can be found from forum or I can make installable pet of it."

If it where possible to make this pet ,i would like to test it.

Thanks!

[backi]

Hi pemasu !

Here i am back again. Sometimes things make me quite curious and stealing my sleep away.

Listen what i did (i am a linux newbee and not much experienced in all those things) . Maybe it does mean anything to anyone.

Because of this strange saving effect, i asked myself ,if or how or why some deb or pet file installations, seems to manage going to my USB stick during a session while i am working completely in ram ( i think so that i am doing that. My savesession intervalls are set to 0 ) and at the end of session when shutting down normally , everything is saved to my savefile (on USB stick).and nothing is saved meanwhile (except i save session manually with"save2flash ").This is my believe-system .


Makes me wonder.
So i made a test.
I installed IRON 13 pet during session - iron was installed and working
then i brutally cut of powerconnection of my laptop during session (removed accu battery
to shutdown the whole system (lights went off).

Then restarted Dpupexprimo (booted again from zero)
in expectation that iron ,installed during session wouldn`t be saved because of this sudden powerloss during session.
But much to my surprise, after booting dpup again, i found IRON still under -menue>internet and working .
Is it possible ,that some pets or deb programm installing themselves
directly to my USB stick , although (so is my believing) they should not
leave or escape out of the "Ram territory " during a session, without sending it to hardware- memory manually (with save2flash or shutting down normally).

Some other pets or installations don't behave like that.

That really makes me wonder.
Maybe anybody able to explain to me, how all this can happen and how this is working? Or maybe i misunderstand some things .

[pemasu]

Backi. My first thought is that when you boot up, it picks up savefile which has that Iron installed. if you boot up with pfix=ram and have savesession = 0, and when t you take the power off, there shouldnt be savefile created for that session. For me...logical reason is that you have another savefile in usb stick which has that Iron installed already and when you boot again it picks that savefile.
Otherwise...it is interesting. Could you post your usb stick booting config. Whatever booting method you use.
And...I dont recommend to violently shut down your comp. If you have filesystems mounted in you comp hdd, they might get damage. Filesystem table could corrupt.

Peebee. Okay...I tested again the abiword...sfs. You were right, the sfs included defaultspreadsheet and defaultwordprocessor filesdont overwrite the existing ones. Interesting. Those files dont have sticky bit so they should be overwritten by sfs included files.
I am at loss. Could better than me enlighten us, why the same files with different content will not be overwritten by sfs. And I am sure those folders are identical in sfs. Only file content is different.
I cant change the content with echo and sed because pinstall.sh is not executed with sfs loading.
Anyway, I will update the abiword....pet also. And I check that those stubborn files will be overwritten....or I use pinstall.sh to add the needed content.