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#2146 Post by edoc »

cthisbear wrote:Wise words >>> Mr pemasu.
" I dont want to underestimate Puppy users. "
You have put out some marvellous releases.
Chris.
pemasu's efforts have been exceptional and most Puppy users are amazingly skilled.

Meanwhile, I am one of the few Puppy users whom one may easily overestimate ... ;-)

Please stay the course, sir!
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#2147 Post by soundNICK »

pemasu wrote:Dpup Wheezy is alpha stage testing build. As the first post says. I also explicitly recommended people to test it, rip it apart and brake it and report what works and what doesnt. [S-N-I-P].
oops... my apologies pemasu... I do see those remarks now, in the dPup
Wheezy thread_ : -)

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#2148 Post by Shep »

It's time I sent a long-overdue bouquet...    Image

I rely on a 560MHz, PIII with about 768 MB of RAM, and I have been using this Exprimo series for the last 8 or so months. It is fantastic. Image

98% of my net use revolves about Firefox, and it hasn't once frozen, spat the dummy, or kicked over the traces. :D I regularly surf with up 60 browser tabs (crazy, I know) yet Firefox hasn't faltered. (To maximize the ram available for apps, I always boot with puppy pfix=nocopy.)

It is sheer joy to surf with this combo of Dpup Exprimo and Firefox. (We're now up to Firefox 15.0.1, it's a dizzying ride just keeping abreast of browser updates. Image )

I look forward to the next gem from pemasu. Mind you, expectations are now so high .... :lol:


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#2149 Post by edoc »

Nice report!

Can you explain what this does, please?

"Puppy pfix=nocopy"

I had never heard of this one.
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#2150 Post by Shep »

edoc wrote:Can you explain what this does, please?

"Puppy pfix=nocopy"

I had never heard of this one.
Hi edoc. I boot from the CD every time, and "pfix=nocopy" tells puppy not to load the .sfs file (containing most of the puppy software) into ram, instead that data must read from the HD as needed. This means that RAM that would otherwise be occupied by the .sfs file (~150MB) is free for applications to use. (It also means that some apps might be a tiny bit slower to start up on first use because they are coming off the HD rather than from ram.)

If you have installed puppy on your HD as a full install, then I think "pfix=nocopy" would have no effect, as it is already the economical way puppy works.

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#2151 Post by edoc »

I do use Frugal installs but the "pfix=nocopy" is real good to know should I have an app that needs to run in limited RAM.

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#2152 Post by piteapup »

nice to see dpup still going on...
gonna be testing it later on today...
hope pemasu gets to intergreat memtest86+ on the iso.
and i will see if it runs on my atom n2600/gma3600 netbook
which is a pain as only fedora17 lxde spin gives me 1024x600,
also for shep/edocs if you want to go the other way and run apps only in ram have a look at "ramdisk gui" this is great for running/testing opera as a example
just unpack the opera .tar.xz into it-100mb is big enough..
ramdisk gui link:-
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... e6eb986483
have fun.

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#2153 Post by edoc »

I have Exprimo running on a Samsung NB30 and a MSI Netbook, so it does handle them fine.

I did have some minor problems on the Samsung with display overlap on sub-windows in Seamonkey E-mail setup (I have a workaround) and the display is dimmed if I boot without AC power (haven't found a way around that as F-key display controls are non-respomnsive).

Thanks for the ramdisk gui link.
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#2154 Post by Shep »

I could search through this 144 page thread to see whether it has previously been mentioned, or I could just post away .....

Pburn 3.7.4 in Exprimo 5.X.15 does not generate the correct md5sum. After burning the .iso it offers to check the md5sum, but even after ejecting and reinserting the CD, the correct md5sum is not generated.

Only by leaving Pburn and using the commandline (md5sum /dev/sr0) can I get confirmation of an error-free burn.

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#2155 Post by pemasu »

Shep. Basically Pburn uses md5sum binary for it also. There is something incompatible in Pburn itself why the Pburn md5sum does not work. I dont have a glue what is behind that misbehavior. Sorry.

If you launch pburn in console, do you get any error messages when it is time for md5sum checking.

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#2156 Post by Shep »

pemasu wrote:Shep. Basically Pburn uses md5sum binary for it also. There is something incompatible in Pburn itself why the Pburn md5sum does not work. I dont have a glue what is behind that misbehavior. Sorry.
It works correctly in some puppies, after ejecting & reinserting the CD.
If you launch pburn in console, do you get any error messages when it is time for md5sum checking.
After launching Pburn in a terminal, I tried TOOLS > DISK INFO to check the md5sum of my CD. It gives the same wrong answer, and there is no error message.

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#2157 Post by Tman »

Hi Pemasu,

I thought you might be interested in my modification of Iguleder's buildpkg.
Same ..concept ... you just run buildpet [script-name] from the terminal.
Some sample scripts are in /usr/share/buildpet. I've attached a tarball of the rest of the scripts that I have. A few are new, most are from Iguleders builder tarball.

I hope to be able to make a frontend for this soon, so that there will be a menu entry for it like Puppizard, and also, so you can just click on the script and it should ask you if you want to build the pet.

buildpet and tarball of scripts
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#2158 Post by pemasu »

Thanks Tman. I will test them soon. Yes, I am interested. Automated and semiautomated building scripts are handy. Thank you or your work and sharing it.

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#2159 Post by Tman »

EDIT: buildpet version 0.4 is released.

Previous versions did not work if you did this in the terminal:

Code: Select all

cd /usr/share/buildpet/document
buildpet leafpad.bp
and it only worked if you did something like this:

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buildpet /usr/share/buildpet/document/leafpad.bp
Now it works either way.

I have started a new thread for it as well.. the link is 2 posts up.

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Twitter Problems with Seamonkey?

#2160 Post by edoc »

On my Netbook, which I have not yet updated from 5x14, Twitter kills performance in Seamonkey.

Is this a known problem that was addressed in 5x15 or in the other development track of Exprimo?

It only happens when Twitter is open.

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#2161 Post by edoc »

5x15 appears to handle Twitter better than 5x14.

No idea why.
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#2162 Post by Puppyt »

I use frugal Exprimo 5x15 as the default Pupplet on my T60 Lenovo lappie, 2GB RAM.

Forget "mobile office" - this is my universe-in-a-box.

I need to work out default app file management with automatic FF upgrades - there's a tute somewhere I guess, but I haven't found it yet.
With this laptop, pemasu has converted me into a lap-lander :)
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#2163 Post by edoc »

We have only laptops and netbooks here which handle all famaily and business apps.

Other than a couple of old ones temporarily dedicated to educational apps for the children (they use MS versions of windows so are not allowed on the Internet) -- all of the others use only Puppy Linux.

5x15 has a couple of real helpful apps in Network that were not in 5x14 -- perfect timing as I just hooked a 1.5TB HDD to the router and needed to sort out the addressing.
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CHIRP for Exprimo

#2164 Post by edoc »

To avoid cross-posting I will just link as I realized that the thread was for Puppy Lucid 5.2.5 and my interest is here on Exprimo:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewt ... 610#656610
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Python mounting & paths?

#2165 Post by edoc »

This is the reply I received -- is there an obvious and simple solution?
> /initrd/mnt/dev_save/savestuff/web/kd4e/digital/chirp/chirp-
> 0.2.3/chirp/detect.py

Is that how Puppy Linux works? Mounting devices into /initrd/mnt/ ?

> Someone found this info:
>
> "python-serial is installed under /usr/share/pyshared, which is not
> in python(2.7)'s search path. Thus it can't be imported."

Hrm, that path is part of Python on all my computers, but I'm running Kubuntu. I know it is also configured like that (by default) on Ubuntu, Debian and Fedora. Perhaps your Linux distro is not set up properly?

> Do this in console:
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> # python ....and press enter
> >>> import sys ....and press enter
> >>> sys.path.append('/usr/share/pyshared') > enter
>
> CTRL + D to quit
>
> In Console "update-python-modules"
>
> The when I execute "./chirpw" in Console I get the same error.

That's not going to work. You're running Python, setting a variable within that Python interpreter, then closing that interpreter and running another one. That's like running one e-mail program, creating a message in it, closing it, opening a totally different e-mail program and expecting the e-mail to magically appear in that program.

> What must I do to make this work, please?

Change the script.
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