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jakfish
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Posted: Tue 19 Jun 2012, 14:49 Post subject:
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Thanks for such a clear explanation, and your thinking makes a lot of sense.
I just wish there was a way to make sfs files stay resident in RAM after their initial start. Seems a shame to waste all that memory.
Best,
Jake
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nooby
Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 9382 Location: SwedenEurope
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Posted: Thu 21 Jun 2012, 04:44 Post subject:
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Pardon if I have asked this before and then fail to remember where. I did use search
but failed to find it. I am in puppy_squeeze_5.X.13.sfs now but will update to puppy_squeeze_5.X.14.sfs
and test again.
I fail to find the python libs searched for libpython and also tried the word python but nothing show up
in PPM so most likely I do a noob error somewhere.
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pemasu

Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Posts: 5165 Location: Finland
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Posted: Thu 21 Jun 2012, 08:14 Post subject:
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You get basic Python by installing devx sfs file. I havent much tested Python. Usually I avoid it. Which means people are about their own with Python. I got my case full with Python in Snow Puppy time. Even one Python developer was quite rude when I tried to get his app to work 100 %....even that it was him who contacted first. He noticed that I posted about his app. I learned one word from him. It was unacceptable, lol. He used it a lot. The experience changed my attitude toward Python to Icy - Snowy- Polar - stage, lol.
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nooby
Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 9382 Location: SwedenEurope
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Posted: Thu 21 Jun 2012, 10:24 Post subject:
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| pemasu wrote: | You get basic Python by installing devx sfs file.
I havent much tested Python. Usually I avoid it. Which means
people are about their own with Python. I got my case full with Python
in Snow Puppy time. Even one Python developer was quite rude when I
tried to get his app to work 100 %....even that it was him who contacted first.
He noticed that I posted about his app. I learned one word from him.
It was unacceptable, lol. He used it a lot. The experience changed my
attitude toward Python to Icy - Snowy- Polar - stage, lol. |
Sad that he had that attitude. One can wonder why he acted like that.
The reason I want python is this program.
http://www.makehuman.org/
MakeHuman is a 3D CGI program that exists both on Windows and Linux.
I want to use it on Linux. I've tested it on LinuxMint and it asked for
the libs of python 2.6 and I've tested it on other linux and all of them
tells me I need that pyton libs. So I had hoped that Dpup being Debian
oriented would have python somewhere. So devs is what I need to install then. I give it a try. Thanks for taking time and caring about me.
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jamesbond
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 1531 Location: The Blue Marble
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Posted: Thu 21 Jun 2012, 11:08 Post subject:
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| pemasu wrote: | | Jakfish. No. Dpup`s have standard init script. And will have. I use the latest available woof with its scripts. Ramboot possibility would mean editing init script in initrd.gz and that is out of scope. I think that Puppee and Fluppy are the only ones which had that Jemimah`s ramboot option. Now that there is heaps of ram...it would not be bad idea to awaken it again....but for me...it would mean that Barry Kauler would accept it to the woof. |
You can have the cake and eat it too. If dpup has shinobar's sfs_load, one can write an rc.local script to create tmpfs, copy all the user-specified SFS-es to this tmpfs, and ask sfs_load to add these SFS-es. Voila ! "ramboot" completely compatible with woof!
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futwerk
Joined: 07 May 2011 Posts: 206
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pemasu

Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Posts: 5165 Location: Finland
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Posted: Thu 21 Jun 2012, 19:09 Post subject:
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Thanks Futwerk. Definitively one of those will be The wallpaper of next build.
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edoc

Joined: 07 Aug 2005 Posts: 3937 Location: Southeast Georgia, USA
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Posted: Thu 21 Jun 2012, 23:28 Post subject:
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| nooby wrote: |
The reason I want python is this program.
http://www.makehuman.org/
MakeHuman is a 3D CGI program that exists both on Windows and Linux. |
Thanks for sharing that link, nooby!
I have forwarded it to our son ... looks like a fascinating app!
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jakfish
Joined: 18 Jul 2008 Posts: 710
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Posted: Sat 23 Jun 2012, 02:34 Post subject:
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>> You can have the cake and eat it too. If dpup has shinobar's sfs_load, one can write an rc.local script to create tmpfs, copy all the user-specified SFS-es to this tmpfs, and ask sfs_load to add these SFS-es. Voila ! "ramboot" completely compatible with woof! <<
@jamesbond: many thanks for an intriguing workaround. I hadn't checked this thread until today, too busy with struggling but finally succeeding with a remaster of 5.X.14 to include my sfs's.
But now you've got me thinking of this approach. I've searched the key words of your advice, but haven't yet found clear instructions for this operation. Could you point me to a helpful thread?
Jake
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futwerk
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pemasu

Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Posts: 5165 Location: Finland
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Posted: Fri 29 Jun 2012, 02:44 Post subject:
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Thanks Futwerk. Good looking backgrounds. I will use them.
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edoc

Joined: 07 Aug 2005 Posts: 3937 Location: Southeast Georgia, USA
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Posted: Thu 05 Jul 2012, 12:38 Post subject:
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CUPS has been stable for a long while - and I suspect this is not a CUPS failure - but I'm guessing something may have been corrupted.
Our HP P1006 printer has been highly-reliable but suddenly does not respond to CUPS/print commands.
It power-cycles properly and CUPS says all is well.
We've made no changes lately.
I tried Modify and re-selecting the module but no joy.
WDYT?
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pemasu

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Posted: Thu 05 Jul 2012, 13:48 Post subject:
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I found your old struggle with HP 1006. That printer needs fimware hotplugging ie feeding to the printer everytime you print.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=57941&start=30
So...it needs compliant foo2xx package. What I would suggest...Remove the printer with cups. Install again foo2xx package you use. Install printer again.
Caveout. Cups permissions can broke if you install applications which overwrite them. Some other distro browsers like .deb installed browsers do that easily. If you have mistakenly overwrote cups permissions in some needed folders or files....you could try jpeps pet to fix them:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=68790
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edoc

Joined: 07 Aug 2005 Posts: 3937 Location: Southeast Georgia, USA
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Posted: Thu 05 Jul 2012, 14:34 Post subject:
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I tried delete and reinstall.
Where CUPS was saying that the print job had been completed, even though it had never so much as caused a printer light to blink or the gears to click, suddenly CUPS started whining about some module (usblp) it wants blocked as it confuses itself if there is more than one printer attached - of course CUPS provides no instructions nor a link to the process of dealing with that module (should be a pop-up).
So then I ran the PET you kindly mentioned and linked - then rebooted.
No joy ...
Is it possible that recent storm-related power dips & surges may have done something to the printer?
Or would CUPS have trouble communicating with the printer at all were that the case?
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edoc

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Posted: Thu 05 Jul 2012, 14:56 Post subject:
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bluehost.com recommends filezilla for ftp.
I downloaded it via Puppy Package Manager from the exprimo repository.
When done it flagged these missing dependencies:
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Should I ignore these or are they important, please?
Or should I not use filezilla?
I have read that a ssh FTP app is important and have found gFTP to be pretty primitive.
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