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Posted: Sat 04 Feb 2012, 15:48
by Ray MK
As above - fantastic - many thanks - Ray

Posting from 5x13 (times 2)

Posted: Sat 04 Feb 2012, 20:15
by mikeslr
Posting from the last version of 5x13. Everything working well. It had no problem accepting the SaveFile from prior 5x13. Just added a couple of fine touches: wbar & changed face of xonclock. Thanks again pemasu. And thanks Billtoo & pemasu for instructions regarding ati-radeon driver.

mikesLr

Posted: Sat 04 Feb 2012, 21:33
by James C
Downloaded latest.... fresh frugal install. No problems. :)

Posted: Sat 04 Feb 2012, 22:06
by smokey01
pemasu are you sure the MD5SUM txt file is correct for the latest upload of 5x13?

Posted: Sat 04 Feb 2012, 23:04
by jim3630
smokey01 wrote:pemasu are you sure the MD5SUM txt file is correct for the latest upload of 5x13?
for what it's worth i get the correct as posted MD5SUM.

Posted: Sat 04 Feb 2012, 23:08
by pemasu
Smokey01. The md5sum is same when I md5sum manually the iso in my sandbox3 build folder, the md5sum.txt in repo and also when I download the uploaded iso. As checked all produces the same result:

93882e00a531233a7682e85db4f887f3 squeeze-5.X.13-SCSI.iso

Posted: Sun 05 Feb 2012, 02:24
by aarf
Online md5sum gives as posted by pemasu.

Posted: Sun 05 Feb 2012, 02:49
by smokey01
Ah I see the problem.

One is named dpup and the other squeeze.

Posted: Sun 05 Feb 2012, 12:27
by pemasu
When I made my first woof build... Snow Puppy. The very first earliest versions did have Songbird as preinstalled app. The reason for this was that I wanted to offer Shoutcast capable player. Then Songbird losed it Shoutcast plugin feature, because the plugin stopped to work...and nobody updated it.

Yesterday Asterisk announced the recent Songbird version and I tested it...with Shoutcast and Last FM plugin (albumart and scroppler enabled) and it did work.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 967#601967
Songbird is a funny one. It's a web browser based on the Mozilla codebase, so its look and feel are completely different from the traditional music player. The main panel shows your music collection, you choose the media source from the panel on the left, and the control buttons are along the top. So far, so ordinary, but the main panel is actually a cunningly-disguised browser window!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songbird_%28software%29

So...I preinstalled those plugins and checked that it is compatible with Dpup Exprimo.
Songbird is big, it has Xulrunner inside but you get working browser inside the Songbird.
Compared to install Python and Streamtuner2 ( which is as big ) I would say that playing Shoutcast...Songbird is much better choice. You can play music files with it. It has even feature to play videos ( but you need to install more gstreamer plugins and libs )
Songbird uses gstreamer for audio. Saluki goes now to gstreamer path....so presenting them to dpup is not that bad thing. I had in Polarpup quite full set of gstreamer libs and plugins and they worked fine with Clementine and other music players.

Songbird with Shoutcast and LastFM support:
http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/pet_pack ... 0-dpup.pet

http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/pet_pack ... 0-dpup.sfs

Posted: Sun 05 Feb 2012, 15:50
by stu90
5x13 working well here - also using about 20 mb less ram for me that earlier Exprimo versions. :)

Couple of niggles:
fonts in Opera web browser - rolled back /etc/fonts to earlier version work for me.
Am unable to record radio streams with mplayer - not sure what is causing this?

My usual tweeks - openbox, tint2 etc
Image
http://i.imgur.com/ay1I6.jpg

thanks.

Posted: Sun 05 Feb 2012, 16:28
by pemasu
/etc/fonts/local.conf has been the difficult piece. I have changed it back and forth. Not sure anymore what is the best settings in it.

I have changed the mplayer to mplayer2. I am afraid that can be the reason. I would like to have hands in good ./configure options for mplayer2.

Posted: Sun 05 Feb 2012, 16:32
by edoc
I probably am missing a setting somewhere ...

Why is it that a wireless mouse times-out when not used for several minutes?

I have to lift it and click the center button to reactivate.

It is a Belkin F5L075-USB

Thanks!

Posted: Sun 05 Feb 2012, 16:58
by pemasu
I suppose it is kernel based feature. Probably the usb auto suspending is ticked in kernel options. I usually enable it.
So...when there is no activity...the usb device will be sent to autosuspend. At least I know kernel has this option.

Probably that can be disabled with appropriate command or boot time kernel parameter. I am in no need of it....so I wont immediately try to find solution...but I believe the net could offer it.

Posted: Sun 05 Feb 2012, 17:29
by edoc
pemasu wrote:I suppose it is kernel based feature. Probably the usb auto suspending is ticked in kernel options. I usually enable it.
So...when there is no activity...the usb device will be sent to autosuspend. At least I know kernel has this option.

Probably that can be disabled with appropriate command or boot time kernel parameter. I am in no need of it....so I wont immediately try to find solution...but I believe the net could offer it.
Am I on the right track looking at this example (not specific to my need but illustrative)?
For example, the usbcore module accepts the parameter blinkenlights to display flashing lights on all supported USB 2.0 hubs (don't ever say the kernel developers don't have a sense of humor). To set this parameter when loading the module dynamically, you would enter:

$
modprobe usbcore blinkenlights=1

But if the usbcore module is built into the kernel, you achieve the same effect by invoking the kernel with the following option:

usbcore.blinkenlights=1

Most module options for modules that are built into the kernel can also be changed at run time by writing to files in the subdirectory named after the module under the /sys/module/ directory. Thus, the blinkenlights option is represented by the file /sys/module/usbcore/blinkenlights. desired.

Posted: Sun 05 Feb 2012, 17:47
by pemasu
Okay...try this. Create file /etc/modprobe.d/usb.conf
And inside it: options usbcore.autosuspend=-1. And reboot.
I believe the usbcore has been compiled in...not as module.
For module the line would have been options usbcore autosuspend=0

http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Document ... gement.txt
Changing the default idle-delay time
173 ------------------------------------
174
175 The default autosuspend idle-delay time (in seconds) is controlled by
176 a module parameter in usbcore. You can specify the value when usbcore
177 is loaded. For example, to set it to 5 seconds instead of 2 you would
178 do:
179
180 modprobe usbcore autosuspend=5
181
182 Equivalently, you could add to /etc/modprobe.conf a line saying:
183
184 options usbcore autosuspend=5
185
186 Some distributions load the usbcore module very early during the boot
187 process, by means of a program or script running from an initramfs
188 image. To alter the parameter value you would have to rebuild that
189 image.
190
191 If usbcore is compiled into the kernel rather than built as a loadable
192 module, you can add
193
194 usbcore.autosuspend=5
195
196 to the kernel's boot command line.
197
198 Finally, the parameter value can be changed while the system is
199 running. If you do:
200
201 echo 5 >/sys/module/usbcore/parameters/autosuspend
And.........
207 Setting the initial default idle-delay to -1 will prevent any
208 autosuspend of any USB device. This is a simple alternative to
209 disabling CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND and rebuilding the kernel, and it has the
210 added benefit of allowing you to enable autosuspend for selected
211 devices.

Posted: Sun 05 Feb 2012, 17:53
by edoc
I cannot find /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf

Does Puppy have a unique location or is one not normally used?

Can I do this in Grub or do I need to create a /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf or ???

Does this look right?

Just turn off autosuspend with "-1"?

Code: Select all

$
modprobe usbcore autosuspend=-1
[quote] usbcore.autosuspend=
[USB] The autosuspend time delay (in seconds) used
for newly-detected USB devices (default 2). This
is the time required before an idle device will be
autosuspended. Devices for which the delay is set
to a negative value won't be autosuspended at all.

Posted: Sun 05 Feb 2012, 18:05
by pemasu
You have to read my previous post....carefully... where I wrote what file you need to create. Of course the file name is optional. The main message is...you dont find a file what you are going to create. Simple.
Yes...you can give it as boot time parameter in kernel row: usbcore.autosuspend=-1

Posted: Sun 05 Feb 2012, 19:25
by edoc
No joy either way :cry:

usbcore.autosuspend=-1

usbcore autosuspend=0

Posted: Sun 05 Feb 2012, 19:36
by pemasu
Then I am clueless atm.

Posted: Sun 05 Feb 2012, 20:04
by smokey01