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pemasu


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PostPosted: Wed 02 Nov 2011, 18:14    Post subject:  

Sound started to work. I removed manually all udev-174.pet installed files and then installed udev_167p-167-patched_t2-i486.pet. I then did modprobe snd-hda-intel and voila, previously seqfaulted retrovol_tray launched. Sound works now. It was udev prob after all...!!!
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PostPosted: Wed 02 Nov 2011, 19:32    Post subject:  

pemasu - sorry to hear about your sound troubles... for me,
EVERYTHING is working in eXprimo5x9... one or two apps still to work
out, but it is s-ooooo solid... nothing breaks... none of my old pets
complain when installed. Everything an experienced user could ask
for, and I didnt even ask Smile

If it wasnt so totally innovative and different I would recommend
it for the next puppy... but then, you already had finlander
named in your honor so congrats for that !

EDIT: after some further look at eXprimo I would say it is very
close to being user friendly... I say this with the following reservation...
because for me, it was the enlightenment default which caused the
most slow downs... why not ship it with JWM as default, and keep
e2 as alternative ? I really dont think e2 is useable as it is.


thanks again for building this distro !!

soundNICK
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Thu 03 Nov 2011, 13:04    Post subject:  

I think that 5.X.9 comes with JWM as default. Because of some graphics driver incompatibilities I changed JWM as default, especially after new JWM version update.
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PostPosted: Thu 03 Nov 2011, 14:27    Post subject:  

Indeed. 5.X.9 comes to the JWM desktop.
To have e17 wmswitcher can be used.

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PostPosted: Fri 04 Nov 2011, 12:48    Post subject:  

pemasu - I'm working on more build scripts and doing my first dpup build with the PETs I uploaded.

I'll do my best to destroy all bugs I find - this time I promise to update the repo Smile

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soundNICK

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PostPosted: Fri 04 Nov 2011, 13:44    Post subject: oops  

pemasu wrote:
I think that 5.X.9 comes with JWM as default. Because of some graphics driver incompatibilities I changed JWM as default, especially after new JWM version update.


Pemasu and Beem... ah thanks for clearing this up for me... somehow I was
using 5x8... just checked file I had... dont know how I got it instead.

Well, good JWM is default in latest... downloading 5x9 now, thanks again

soundNICK

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Nov 2011, 06:53    Post subject: xPrimo 5x8 / 5x9 differences ?
Subject description: 5x8 works better for me
 

OK_ tried 5.x.9... finally got it to load... and now I have a question...
is the "SCSI" designation in this filename referring to equipment it works
best with ? (Exprimo-dpup-SCSI <-- like that).

I had Lots of problems with this version_ no more old pets are working...
freezes at boot screen where savefile i s selected to load... there I get
blinking cursor, but cant enter number... number doesnt register on
monitor, like number pad is disabled.

I did get 5.x.9 loaded, and made savefile... but, to fix boot problem had
to move all old xPrimo files to remote, then 5.x.9 savefile does boot, as it is
the only instance..

If it helps, I am using a desktop computer.... maybe 5.x.9 is special version for USB
or notebook or other ?

hope you can answer what the differences in versions is... different
kernel maybe ? So many changes for my use.

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Nov 2011, 12:32    Post subject:  

Soundnick. 5X9 uses same kernel as 5X8. Only difference is that it uses newer woof and so initial booting initrd.gz probably has somewhat different init script. I know that Barry K has improved things...usually every woof has something altered.

SCSI means that during woof build scsi drivers are not dropped out. In fact I dropped out only old phone line modem firmwares and not needed stuff. Almost everything has been included. As always.

About difficulties. I have now installed 5X9 to quad core intel i5 laptop, dual core AMD Turion laptop, P4 desktop, I have used several savefiles for same install, I have several 5X versions in their own folders, I havent had any problems.

I use only grub4dos and grldr installed in first partition, I have used ext3 and ntfs as filesystem in that first partition, puplets are installed in ext4 or ext3 partition, in their own folders as frugal installation. Savefiles are inside those folders with according puppy.sfs, vmlinuz and initrd.gz. I havent had ever problem with booting with them. Usb booting with these newer kernels had problem. Barry K responded to our findings and fixed the init script, also compiling all the usb drivers as in, not as modules is solution also.

5X9 has been the release, with I have tested several different installations, I havent experienced any problems.

So...I really dont know what was the problem with your installation.
Anyway, we move forward all the time. I use the latest released woof, things will be improved, next release might be better....or worse.....lol.
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PostPosted: Sat 05 Nov 2011, 21:17    Post subject:  

pemasu wrote:
Soundnick. 5X9 uses same kernel as 5X8. Only difference is that it uses newer woof and so initial booting initrd.gz probably has somewhat different init script. I know that Barry K has improved things...usually every woof has something altered.

SCSI means that during woof build scsi drivers are not dropped out. In fact I dropped out only old phone line modem firmwares and not needed stuff. Almost everything has been included. As always.

About difficulties. I have now installed 5X9 to quad core intel i5 laptop, dual core AMD Turion laptop, P4 desktop, I have used several savefiles for same install, I have several 5X versions in their own folders, I havent had any problems.

I use only grub4dos and grldr installed in first partition, I have used ext3 and ntfs as filesystem in that first partition, puplets are installed in ext4 or ext3 partition, in their own folders as frugal installation. Savefiles are inside those folders with according puppy.sfs, vmlinuz and initrd.gz. I havent had ever problem with booting with them. Usb booting with these newer kernels had problem. Barry K responded to our findings and fixed the init script, also compiling all the usb drivers as in, not as modules is solution also.

5X9 has been the release, with I have tested several different installations, I havent experienced any problems.

So...I really dont know what was the problem with your installation.
Anyway, we move forward all the time. I use the latest released woof, things will be improved, next release might be better....or worse.....lol.


Pemasu - ah great_ thanks for your excellent answer. I use these words...
kernel / so forth... not knowing what they are... but... top quality answer
from you tells me I must have asked something sensible(!). If it works for
you, cant ask any more... glad there is this solid distro [ 5.x.8 ] for me.

now I ask important question (hope you see next post)

regards

soundNICK

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Nov 2011, 22:00    Post subject: suggested feature for next versions  

soundNICK wrote:
[quote=
...now I ask important question (hope you see /this/ post)


pemasu - just thought of this last night... you will like it maybe !

here is the idea... based on what I see with 5.x.8/9 desktops_ where
you can pick e2 /or/ JWM_ maybe you could add a function to
wmswitcher so its possible to add multiple instances of JWM... such as
JWM-1 / JWM-2 /... to pick from the list.
You could add as many as needed, and have completely different
desktops to work with.
I see this functionality now with my e2/JWM... that is, when I switch
from one to the other one, icons on first desktop no longer show up in
the other... so, this idea already works, except there is just one JWM
available.
To me, this would be great for any app... say, maybe you like Gimp...
and you want to keep 5 or 10 gimp only files on a working desktop... so...
you make JWM-2 with just a gimp icon, and, all these associated files,
and then could switch to that when you want to work on gimp.
Of course, it would work for any application.

it might be there is only one JWM config file or one e2 config file, and this
idea wouldnt actually work... you would know better.

soundNICK
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Nov 2011, 01:15    Post subject:  

Since you are busy building some new kernels......I just put together a Slacko 5.30 with k-3.1.0.Out of the 8 or 9 different kernels I'm running in different Puppy installs this one has the lowest ram usage so far...even lower than Guy Dog.
Just to give you some more ideas..... Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Nov 2011, 02:32    Post subject:  

James C wrote:
Since you are busy building some new kernels......I just put together a Slacko 5.30 with k-3.1.0.Out of the 8 or 9 different kernels I'm running in different Puppy installs this one has the lowest ram usage so far...even lower than Guy Dog.
Just to give you some more ideas..... Laughing

Nice James C! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Nov 2011, 02:41    Post subject: Re: suggested feature for next versions  

soundNICK wrote:
soundNICK wrote:
[quote=
...now I ask important question (hope you see /this/ post)


pemasu - just thought of this last night... you will like it maybe !

here is the idea... based on what I see with 5.x.8/9 desktops_ where
you can pick e2 /or/ JWM_ maybe you could add a function to
wmswitcher so its possible to add multiple instances of JWM... such as
JWM-1 / JWM-2 /... to pick from the list.
You could add as many as needed, and have completely different
desktops to work with.
I see this functionality now with my e2/JWM... that is, when I switch
from one to the other one, icons on first desktop no longer show up in
the other... so, this idea already works, except there is just one JWM
available.
To me, this would be great for any app... say, maybe you like Gimp...
and you want to keep 5 or 10 gimp only files on a working desktop... so...
you make JWM-2 with just a gimp icon, and, all these associated files,
and then could switch to that when you want to work on gimp.
Of course, it would work for any application.

it might be there is only one JWM config file or one e2 config file, and this
idea wouldnt actually work... you would know better.

soundNICK

JWM is the windows managers - the desktop icons are controlled by Rox-filer the file manager, you can have multiple different desktop profiles as you describe as switch to them on the fly.

the Pinboard file for puppy is /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin this is the file that controls what icons are show on the desktop.

Im not aware of any GUI for pinboard switching? but you could copy the pinboard file then edit it do display the icons and launchers of your choosing - see more about using rox-filer piboard on this link:
http://rox.sourceforge.net/Manual/Manual/Manual.html#id2456497
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Nov 2011, 03:41    Post subject:  

I am not using Pinboard tuning much. All the time changing your puplet version makes the tuning quite useless...
But there is in menu > Desktop > Desksetup Templates for Desktop icons.
It has some functionality how to tune your Pinboard.
In same menu location is also Backup my Desktop. I believe both takes backups of your existing Pinboard.
Both apps can be found as pets in this forum. I am sure that playing with them could lead even better functionality with them. 01mickos Deskset already has switching capabilities.
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Nov 2011, 03:45    Post subject:  

James C. That sounds great. I played with 3.0.8 yesterday. Almost all is now functional. Intel driver still refuses to work for me. Acpi section also needs another inspection.
But 3.1.0 sounds great. I am taking easy space with 3.X kernel. More or less I test them. My next version update will probably be still 2.6.39.4. The woof still coughs with 3.X even though Barry has updated builddistro, it does not do the 3.X kernel job automatically. The puppy.sfs will be squashed with 3.3 version. I have needed to do manual tuning to get 4.2 version used.
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