Dpup Exprimo 5.X.15

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rcrsn51 · #1216 Post by **rcrsn51** » Mon 24 Oct 2011, 02:21

edoc wrote:They are set to be available to other computers, on the host computer

What settings have you made? Do the printers say "Shared" beside their names?

and the non-host computer is set to view printers hosted elsewhere on the system - but the printer(s) are not seen.

No setting should be necessary on the client machine. It should auto-detect any printers shared by CUPS on the server machine.

I didn't know if there may be some external-to-CUPS security setting in 5X8 or 5X9, or perhaps on our Netgear router, that may be blocking the printers from being seen.

Do you have firewalls running on either machine? To be certain, look in /etc/rc.d/rc.local.

[Edit] I just set up a networked printer in 5X9 and it worked fine.

pemasu · #1217 Post by **pemasu** » Mon 24 Oct 2011, 05:23

Irishrm. Rude hack for getting the tapping persistent, if the Flsynclient does not do its job, is.....
Go to the /root/Startup. Right click > New > Script. Gave name like enable-tap.
Open the script. There is just shebang row. Under it type that used row.
synclient TapButton1=1

You can give other commands with extra rows, those rows shown in flsynclient file, are all possible to be used in this script.
Now that script loads the parameters for synclient everytime you start the X.

irishrm · #1218 Post by **irishrm** » Mon 24 Oct 2011, 08:42

pemasu, did what you suggested and it worked.

I can only envy you, your expert knowledge of the subject and just hope to learn the odd thing myself as I go along.

Will continue to use the OS and will be looking forward to its future development.

Thanks again for your help-irishrm.

edoc · #1219 Post by **edoc** » Mon 24 Oct 2011, 15:14

rcrsn51 wrote:
edoc wrote:They are set to be available to other computers, on the host computer
What settings have you made? Do the printers say "Shared" beside their names?

No. Even though the "Shared" box is checked I see that it says "Not Shared"

What would cause it to ignore the "Shared" toggle?

I just reset the "Shared" -- perhaps it had been corrupted because I used the 5X5 Savefile on the host computer?

My computer still does see the printer - I will close everything and reboot this one to see if that helps ... if not I will try the same on hers ...

rcrsn51 wrote:
and the non-host computer is set to view printers hosted elsewhere on the system - but the printer(s) are not seen.
No setting should be necessary on the client machine. It should auto-detect any printers shared by CUPS on the server machine.

Why does CUPS have a "Show printers shared by other systems" selection?

rcrsn51 wrote:
I didn't know if there may be some external-to-CUPS security setting in 5X8 or 5X9, or perhaps on our Netgear router, that may be blocking the printers from being seen.
Do you have firewalls running on either machine? To be certain, look in /etc/rc.d/rc.local.

This is the only content there:

Code: Select all

/usr/bin/set_linux_clock.sh

[Edit] I just set up a networked printer in 5X9 and it worked fine.[/quote]

I am using the SaveFile from 5X5, which is where I originally set up the printer(s), is it possible that something didn't make the transition?

The host computer is my wife's - I am trying to avoid disrupting her setup as much as possible.

rcrsn51 · #1220 Post by **rcrsn51** » Mon 24 Oct 2011, 15:25

edoc wrote:No. Even though the "Shared" box is checked I see that it says "Not Shared"

You are missing a step. Go to the main CUPS Administration screen and look in the Server section. Check the box "Share printers connected to this system".

Now the printers should show as "Shared" and should be visible across your network. When you open a client machine, you may need to wait a bit before it detects the shared printers.

mikeslr · #1221 Post by **mikeslr** » Mon 24 Oct 2011, 17:36

Hi pemasu & all,

Dpup Exprimo 5.X.9, manual install. Working fine with the following exception:

I first tried to set up wireless networking using Simple Network Setup. Although it saw my router, it was unable to establish a connection. Tried 4 times. I had more success with the network wizard, once I ignored the "unable to find a network -- or words to that effect" and clicked dhcp anyway. That put me on the web. But it did not survive reboot. Installed Frisbee and have not had any problems since.
I have noted that on Puplets based on iguleder's scripts/build --Exprimo x9, Guydog, Next--Simple Network Setup appears not to be as functional as previously. I can't chalk this up to "its just my computer" as I've noted it on two different computers. Has something changed?

Also regarding "Has something changed?" previously once wireless settings were established, on reboot establishment of wireless connection would automatically take place. Under Exprimo x9, it doesn't. The icon on the traybar has to be clicked to initiate the establishment of a wireless connection. I'm not complaining. I think that its a good security measure (especially as Exprimo x9 ships without firewallstate installed and activated). I just don't recall whether this was intended.

mikesLr

pemasu · #1222 Post by **pemasu** » Mon 24 Oct 2011, 17:50

Mikeslr
About Firewall. I have Firewall app in Menu > Network. Also there is /etc/init.d/firewall script which has Iguleders firewall script content, posted in this forum earlier.
Just make that script executable and it will be activated at every boot up.
Intended ? Yes, including firewall was intended.

Installing Frisbee ? I had Frisbee preinstalled. Also I have in Menu > Network Frisbee enable-disable gui app.

About wireless apps. Yeah, I have SNS, old network wizard, and Frisbee. I suppose that is one too much. That is why I have included Frisbee Manager to disable-enable it. The gui and script made by stu90. Problems with SNS might be fixed by disabling Frisbee and rebooting.

"Has something changed?" Sure it has. Every build uses latest woof, many packages will be updated for next build, base uses debian squeeze. All the mentioned builds are dpups. In good and bad. Fortunately they belongs to the puppy family. That I am proud of....

I am sure Exprimo is not for everyone. But hopefully someone finds this build useful. Anyway it is my main OS now. And my wireless connection is autodetected at every boot.

edoc · #1223 Post by **edoc** » Mon 24 Oct 2011, 18:25

Exprimo (5X8 or 5X9) is on four laptops, one netbook and soon on another, here ... all detect and connect and remember wireless connections.

CPU usage seems a little high ... otherwise all is well ... still chasing the CUPS-share thing ...

stu90 · #1224 Post by **stu90** » Mon 24 Oct 2011, 18:28

5x9 clean frugal install setup and working ok here with my usual changes and configs openbox tint2 conky etc - For SNS connection used Frisbee enable-disable manager ( notice you added line about rebooting

) to disable frisbee and SNS connection set up fine on reboot and is persistent.

edoc · #1225 Post by **edoc** » Mon 24 Oct 2011, 18:39

rcrsn51 wrote:
edoc wrote:No. Even though the "Shared" box is checked I see that it says "Not Shared"
You are missing a step. Go to the main CUPS Administration screen and look in the Server section. Check the box "Share printers connected to this system".

Now the printers should show as "Shared" and should be visible across your network. When you open a client machine, you may need to wait a bit before it detects the shared printers.

Tried on two different laptops and a netbook, all with Exprimo 5X9, none can see the "Shared" printer(s).

Odd ...

edoc · #1226 Post by **edoc** » Mon 24 Oct 2011, 18:52

Another ... very minor anomaly ...

The 5X9 Puppy Linux Addict background shows on my netbook but the 5X8 Exprimo remains on my laptop - even though I have upgraded it to 5X9.

What might cause that, please?

Warrior522 · #1227 Post by **Warrior522** » Mon 24 Oct 2011, 20:12

A small suggestion; Could the default setting for .rar files be set to open them in Xarchiver? I find it odd that this is not the default setting, as this is how it is done on every other Puppy derivative I have used, as well as being the default setting for zip files...

I apologize if this has already been adressed, but 82 pages is a bit too much reading even for me...

pemasu · #1228 Post by **pemasu** » Mon 24 Oct 2011, 20:16

Warrior522. This is coincidence. I havent had much time to read books. But yesterday I unpacked one rar compressed book and I am reading it now with fbreader. I noticed that .rar is not associated. I will look into it.
It is just one of those mishaps I didnt know. I will fix it. It was not intentional.
Thank you of the report.

Anyway....if you right click the .rar packages there are fileroller and open with Xarchive to uncompress it. So something is working.

Warrior522 · #1229 Post by **Warrior522** » Mon 24 Oct 2011, 20:21

pemasu wrote:Warrior522. This is coincidence. I havent had much time to read books. But yesterday I unpacked one rar compressed book and I am reading it now with fbreader. I noticed that .rar is not associated. I will look into it.
It is just one of those mishaps I didnt know. I will fix it. It was not intentional.
Thank you of the report.

Anyway....if you right click the .rar packages there are fileroller and open with Xarchive to uncompress it. So something is working.

Glad I could help.

pemasu · #1230 Post by **pemasu** » Mon 24 Oct 2011, 20:24

It looks like pupzip does not recognize .rar compression. If I change the mime-type to use xarchiver straight, clicking the book.rar opens in xarchiver.
Interesting.....

smokey01 · #1231 Post by **smokey01** » Mon 24 Oct 2011, 20:33

pemasu tonight I will compile a new Psip - Puppy Phone for Dpup Exprimo 5x9.

jamesbond has added some additional functionality.

mikeslr · #1232 Post by **mikeslr** » Mon 24 Oct 2011, 20:33

Hi Pemasu:

My wireless problems may have been caused by:
(a) Router required resetting -- it gets clogged from time to time and slows to a crawl. I reset it only after I first tried to set up Exprimo 5x9.
(b) Having been frustrated by SNS's unexpected failure to establish connection, I probably didn't spend as much time as I should have wading through the menus.

I'm among those who find your pups useful. Although I explore other puppys and puplets trying to be as helpful as I can be with my limited knowledge to the devs, Exprimo smp is the OS I primarily use on my quod-core desktop, and Midnight pup is the only OS I regularly used on my Thinkpad T42.

And, if I haven't said it recently, thanks for your efforts.

mikesLr

pemasu · #1233 Post by **pemasu** » Mon 24 Oct 2011, 20:49

I fixed the pupzip to recognize .rar extensions.
Fixed pupzip will be installed from the attached pet.

rcrsn51 · #1234 Post by **rcrsn51** » Mon 24 Oct 2011, 20:55

edoc wrote:Tried on two different laptops and a netbook, all with Exprimo 5X9, none can see the "Shared" printer(s).

From the client machines, can you ping the server machine?

edoc · #1235 Post by **edoc** » Mon 24 Oct 2011, 21:09

rcrsn51 wrote:
edoc wrote:Tried on two different laptops and a netbook, all with Exprimo 5X9, none can see the "Shared" printer(s).
From the client machines, can you ping the server machine?

# ping puppypc5289
PING puppypc5289 (192.168.1.120): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 192.168.1.120: seq=0 ttl=64 time=146.566 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.120: seq=1 ttl=64 time=111.630 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.120: seq=2 ttl=64 time=167.817 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.120: seq=3 ttl=64 time=48.759 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.120: seq=4 ttl=64 time=122.507 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.120: seq=5 ttl=64 time=95.140 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.120: seq=6 ttl=64 time=152.640 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.120: seq=7 ttl=64 time=42.496 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.120: seq=8 ttl=64 time=86.240 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.120: seq=9 ttl=64 time=88.457 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.120: seq=10 ttl=64 time=9.693 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.120: seq=11 ttl=64 time=33.604 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.120: seq=12 ttl=64 time=90.290 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.120: seq=13 ttl=64 time=81.372 ms
^C
--- puppypc5289 ping statistics ---
14 packets transmitted, 14 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 9.693/91.229/167.817 ms

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