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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Tue 02 Aug 2011, 00:20    Post_subject:  

kirk wrote:
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The open source driver in beta 6 (and earlier) works pretty well but I don't
understand why the proprietary driver can't work too,anyhow,I hope this info is
useful.


The ATI installer doesn't know what to do with /usr/X11R7. Nvidia knows where to install things. I'll make a ATI pet package once we're sure about the kernel.

Quote:
Later:
I plugged in a flash drive to access a file and as soon as I did that
it caused a kernel panic and a black screen full of text with info
about interupts and kernel 2.6.38.8, the lights on my keyboard were
flashing also.



Can you reproduce this without the ATI stuff in there? If so can you take a picture of the kernel panic?


I deleted my save file and rebooted the computer and loaded beta6,
then rebooted again creating a new save file.
I plugged in one flash drive and it was okay so I plugged in a second
flash drive and it produced a kernel panic.
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jamesbond

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Aug 2011, 06:24    Post_subject:  

Wow that's bad Sad Does this also happen with beta5?
I just tried with beta5, with save file in harddisk, I plug in 2 flash drives (one FAT32 partition and the other NTFS) - it doesn't crash on me.

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Aug 2011, 07:15    Post_subject:  

Just released openshot 1.3.1 sfs.
Features: smooth scaling & 3D titles via blender.
Enjoy.

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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Tue 02 Aug 2011, 08:40    Post_subject:  

jamesbond wrote:
Wow that's bad Sad Does this also happen with beta5?
I just tried with beta5, with save file in harddisk, I plug in 2 flash drives (one FAT32 partition and the other NTFS) - it doesn't crash on me.


No that didn't happen in beta 5 but it had an issue with the screen saver.
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kirk

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Aug 2011, 11:13    Post_subject:  

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No that didn't happen in beta 5 but it had an issue with the screen saver.


Bill,

Are you sure about that? Would you mind testing beta5 again? We're trying to decide which kernel to use, they all have problems:

3.0 -- Crash with cifs mounts. This is a CIFS/AUFS bug. So 3.0 is out.

2.6.39.3 --- Intel ironlake graphics have problems. I had reported that radeon graphics had problems, but that was my mistake. Screen energy saver problem.

2.6.38.8 --- I've had a kernel oops at shutdown, but have not been able to reproduce. The USB related oops you had, Which seems to affect several kernels: http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2011/07/msg00489.html Maybe even 2.6.39.3.
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PostPosted: Tue 02 Aug 2011, 11:48    Post_subject:  

kirk wrote:
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No that didn't happen in beta 5 but it had an issue with the screen saver.


Bill,

Are you sure about that? Would you mind testing beta5 again? We're trying to decide which kernel to use, they all have problems:

3.0 -- Crash with cifs mounts. This is a CIFS/AUFS bug. So 3.0 is out.

2.6.39.3 --- Intel ironlake graphics have problems. I had reported that radeon graphics had problems, but that was my mistake. Screen energy saver problem.

2.6.38.8 --- I've had a kernel oops at shutdown, but have not been able to reproduce. The USB related oops you had, Which seems to affect several kernels: http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2011/07/msg00489.html Maybe even 2.6.39.3.



I deleted my old beta 5 save file and created a new one.

Tue 2 Aug 2011 Operating System: Fatdog64-520 Linux 2.6.39.3
0.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Redwood PRO [Radeon HD 5500 Series]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS product: REDWOOD 01.00

X Server: Xorg Driver: radeon
X.Org version: 1.9.5
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (508x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: X.Org
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD REDWOOD
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 7.10.3

AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 810 Processor
Core 0: 800 1: 800 2: 800 3: 800 MHz

# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.183 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.002 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.006 FPS

I plugged in 6 flash drives and nothing bad happened (sdh1 is a
sandisk cruz that somehow comes up with sr1 optical too).

I'll use this for a day or two and report back if anything bad does
happen.

EDIT: I let it sit idle until the screen saver kicked in and then moved the mouse and the screen came back on, I think the problem I had with it before may have been on my nvidia pc but not sure about that.
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kirk

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PostPosted: Wed 03 Aug 2011, 09:27    Post_subject:  

Thanks for that bill. 2.6.39.4 will be out in the next couple days We'll give that a go. Hopfully that will be the last kernel I compile for a while.

Also I uploaded the BlueGriffon html editor to the repo. This was built from git/svn, so it's a verion 1.2 preview.
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PostPosted: Wed 03 Aug 2011, 09:57    Post_subject:  

kirk wrote:
3.0 -- Crash with cifs mounts. This is a CIFS/AUFS bug. So 3.0 is out.

2.6.39.3 --- Intel ironlake graphics have problems. I had reported that radeon graphics had problems, but that was my mistake. Screen energy saver problem.

2.6.38.8 --- I've had a kernel oops at shutdown, but have not been able to reproduce. The USB related oops you had, Which seems to affect several kernels: http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2011/07/msg00489.html Maybe even 2.6.39.3.
Tough choice Shocked
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p310don

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PostPosted: Wed 03 Aug 2011, 19:22    Post_subject:
Sub_title: really basic testing..
 

Hi

I have briefly booted beta6 twice now.

The first time, it booted to desktop no probs, 1920 x 1080 res, perfect for monitor (but too small for my eyes!). I checked out a flash game that has never worked too well in 64 bit. It worked. Checked out some flash / web based videos, opened 3 tabs, kernel panic...

The second time, booted same, no probs. Played hi def video beautifully in gxine. Screen refresh is perfect, no flicker. It flickers for me in every puppy and ubuntu I've tried on this PC, so a good win there. Clicked mp3, doesn't play, gxine opens and immediately closes, flac does the same. Both play if opened with pmusic. After closing pmusic, no other sound works though.

So far, end of testing. More time tomorrow
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PostPosted: Thu 04 Aug 2011, 07:29    Post_subject:  

3rd boot - went to change resolution, right clicked on desktop, went to menu, kernel panic
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PostPosted: Thu 04 Aug 2011, 08:51    Post_subject:  

Thanks p310don. It would be good if you can compare beta6 and beta5 - which one is more stable for you?

As said by kirk above - he has been testing 3 kernels, basically:
beta4 - kernel 3.0
beta5 - kernel 2.6.39.3
beta6 - kernel 2.6.38.8 (also used in beta3 I think, but beta6 has all the fixes found in beta4 & beta5)

kernel 3.0 is definitely no-go at this point (not until the cifs/aufs bug is fixed), so the choice is between beta5 & beta6.

I haven't used beta6 a lot myself, but beta5 is rock stable for me.

For sound, please see my earlier notes on page 1. You need to edit /etc/group and add "spot" the the "audio" group.

cheers!

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gcmartin

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PostPosted: Thu 04 Aug 2011, 15:04    Post_subject: SFSs versus PETS  

jamesbond wrote:
Just released openshot 1.3.1 sfs.
Features: smooth scaling & 3D titles via blender.
Enjoy.
James thanks for this.

As you know some of us are exclusive live media users. Is there going to be a 64bit PET available to make this a part of the PC's system at save-session time? Maybe via PPM.

Another PET
tazoc wrote:
Edit ISO images in Fatdog 64

This was compiled from source in Lighthouse 64 and tested in Fatdog64-520 beta 3. ... -TazOC
Found Here and announced here.

Yet Another PET
Would you also promote SAMBA 3.5.6 to the PPM, too.

Hope this helps. and thanks again.

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PostPosted: Thu 04 Aug 2011, 22:22    Post_subject:  

OK, booted beta5 as requested.

Booted to 1920 x 1080 resolution, can't change it via xorgwizard, so squinting it is! Screen refresh is beautiful.

Fiddled around a bit, got hardinfo going, reports correct hardware. Keyboard media keys work. Mouse forward and back buttons work in firefox, unlike in 5.25 which I usually run on this machine.

Mp3 and flac opens gxine briefly, but no actual music. Same as beta6

Opened flash game, plus 3 tabs of flash videos

kernel panic

Surely this must be my hardware, as others are reporting good stability with fatdog. But, hardware does work fine with other puppies, and 64 ubuntu, which I used to use on it.

Hardinfo from 5.25

-Computer-
Processor : 2x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5600+
Memory : 3115MB (283MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.52
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Fri 05 Aug 2011 12:37:06 PM EST
-Display-
Resolution : 1360x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
-Input Devices-
AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
Microsoft Microsoft® SideWinder™ X5 Mouse
Power Button
Power Button
PC Speaker
-Printers-
No printers found
-SCSI Disks-
ATA MAXTOR STM350063
ATA WDC WD3200AAKS-0
ATA Hitachi HDT72101
ATA WDC WD10EACS-00D
ATA WDC WD2500JB-00R
ASUS DRW-1814BL
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PostPosted: Thu 04 Aug 2011, 22:36    Post_subject:  

Here are some wallpapers for Fatdog64 by Futwerk.
He will work with you if there is something specific you would like.
Check them out.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=550171#550171

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PostPosted: Fri 05 Aug 2011, 19:26    Post_subject:  

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I have been trying without much luck to find a Puppy that works on my latest Dell Inspiron 15R Sandy Bridge i5-2430 laptop with Intel HD3000 integrated graphics 1366x768. I am so glad I came across fatdog64 520b6. Everything just works out-of-the box except for WiFi. For WiFi, I just had to drop the latest Intel iwl firmware for N-1030 in /lib/firmware and reboot. The firmware is here http://intellinuxwireless.org/iwlwifi/downloads/iwlwifi-6000g2b-ucode-17.168.5.2.tgz. I replaced xine with vlc as default media player. I really love my fatdog64 520b6! It becomes my main OS, now. I Virtualbox into my Windows XP whenever I need to run Windows. VBox XP on fatdog64 is amazingly fast on my new Sandy Bridge laptop, stuffed with 8G of RAM.


Grabbed all the iwlwifi firmware, it will be in beta7.

p310don,

Without seeing the oops output I can only guess. Give beta7 a try when I get it uploaded. Lots of changes, more than I would like at this point, but I think they're all for the better. Jamesbond has been busy, got xorg-server going with udev, so we've rebuilt the xorg stuff. Running without a xorg.conf by default now. You can plug in a Wacom tablet and it will work right away. Fixed some bugs in the rc.sysint.. Compiled 2.6.39.4, alsa now has an equalizer, other stuff too. I'll upload beta7 tonight or tomorrow.

bigpup,

Thanks I'll check it out.
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