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I would like to learn how to make themes.
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puppyiso


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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jul 2011, 20:14    Post subject:  I would like to learn how to make themes.
Subject description: To customize puppy		  
I have read almost all posts here over the years.

Yet, I have not seen any tutorials on how to make one's own theme.

I know about icon editor but don't know about switching icons such as filled and emptied waste bin icons.

I would like to play making experimental themes.

Can anyone show me at least a link to do it? I am not interested in GNOME or KDE etc.

Just switching themes and all the icons with what I would make.

Those who ever made themes. enlighten me.

Thanks.
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steve_s


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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jul 2011, 20:24    Post subject: Re: I would like to learn how to make themes.
Subject description: To customize puppy		  
puppyiso wrote:
I have read almost all posts here over the years.

Yet, I have not seen any tutorials on how to make one's own theme.

I know about icon editor but don't know about switching icons such as filled and emptied waste bin icons.

I would like to play making experimental themes.

Can anyone show me at least a link to do it? I am not interested in GNOME or KDE etc.

Just switching themes and all the icons with what I would make.

Those who ever made themes. enlighten me.

Thanks.


You talking JWM? If so, check Menu--> Desktop--> Desktop Settings--> JWM Theme Maker...ready...go!

Also, Desktop--> Desktop Settings--> Desktop Icon Switcher

And yes, there are many different posts about making themes, icons and various other things. Start with these two: Screenshots and JWM Themes. But like I said, there are many more. Google search for Puppy Linux forum [insert desktop item here, e.g. JWM Theme Maker].
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puppyiso


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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jul 2011, 21:46    Post subject:  
Thank you, Steve.


But what I mean is that I would like to design each component of a certain theme all by myself. Like pixel by pixel...

The theme maker is not powerful enough to do all aspects of theme.
I don't want to use others and I don't want to just change icons or colors.

Bear in mind that I have been using Puppy since 2003.
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stu90


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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jul 2011, 23:39    Post subject:  
Have a look at some of the icon packs in /usr/local/lib/X11/themes
the new icon theme you create will have to use the same names for the icons - probibly best to use GIMP for the image/icon creation, make the new canvas 48x48 pixels in size with a transparent background, when your are done save as .png format.
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puppyiso


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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jul 2011, 23:53    Post subject:  
Thank you, Stu90.

I will look into it.
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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jul 2011, 00:59    Post subject:  
Very Happy Hello,
Jwm themes are a text file, using color codes...
Look at /root/.jwm/themes..
Tip.. Copy an existing theme you like with a new name, then edit it....
Then look at Icons, GTK themes, and Rox....
All are editable..

Actually, huge parts of Puppy are simple text scripts used as custom launchers of a "vanilla" binary...
Look at sbin and bin directories...
Remember the "which" command in bash.. ie "which mtpaint" etc...
Boot pfix=ram and go nuts.... Wink
Its what I love about Puppy.. Fully "Adaptable"... Cool

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puppyiso


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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jul 2011, 02:28    Post subject:  
Hmm.. One is in user directory and another is in root...

puppyluvr, I might [ ALSO] want to change the half cooked Korean menu into full and complete Korean menu.

Where should I begin?
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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jul 2011, 02:41    Post subject:  
Be aware that Barry is implementing png overlay code that will mean some graphic components will have to be designed in a completely new way (to look good). This will be available to future woof builds, Wary, Puppy 5.3 Spot, Quircky, Drake etc . . .
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02360

This may mean (for example) that with two or three clever images with degrees of transparency and rotation, an infinite number of background/wallpaper/desktop images can be created . . . Cool

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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jul 2011, 02:54    Post subject:  
Lobster wrote:
Be aware that Barry is implementing png overlay code that will mean some graphic components will have to be designed in a completely new way (to look good). This will be available to future woof builds, Wary, Puppy 5.3 Spot, Quircky, Drake etc . . .
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02360

This may mean (for example) that with two or three clever images with degrees of transparency and rotation, an infinite number of background/wallpaper/desktop images can be created . . . Cool

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stu90


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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jul 2011, 06:51    Post subject:  
puppyiso wrote:
Thank you, Stu90.

I will look into it.


Other aspects of theme making is GTK themes - these are located in /usr/share/themes
For the simpler GTK themes these are just text files (normally named gtkrc), while more complex GTK themes are a mixture of text file and image files.

I attach here a simple example of a GTK theme (this is the same theme template i use in the SimpleGTK gui theme maker)

Each hash - number (example #000000000000) represent a colour - you can see what these colours are and or generate new colour codes with 'Gcolor2 color chooser' in the Menu or with mtpaint or even geany has a colour chooser - then just replace the old colours with your new colours to make a new custom GTK theme.

Code:

style "default"
{

fg[NORMAL] = "#000000000000"
fg[ACTIVE] = "#000000000000"
fg[PRELIGHT] = "#000000000000"
fg[SELECTED] = "#ffffffffffff"
fg[INSENSITIVE] = "#000000000000"

bg[NORMAL] = "#b18cb18cb18c"
bg[ACTIVE] = "#ea60ea60ea60"
bg[PRELIGHT] = "#ea60ea60ea60"
bg[INSENSITIVE] = "#b18cb18cb18c"
bg[SELECTED] = "#000000009c40"

text[NORMAL] = "#000000000000"
text[ACTIVE] = "#000000000000"
text[PRELIGHT] = "#000000000000"
text[SELECTED] = "#ffffffffffff"
text[INSENSITIVE] = "#ffffffffffff"

base[NORMAL] = "#b18cb18cb18c"
base[ACTIVE] = "#b18cb18cb18c"
base[PRELIGHT] = "#ea60ea60ea60"
base[SELECTED] = "#000000009c40"

 
} class "*" style "default"
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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jul 2011, 08:54    Post subject:  
And of course the starting place when you want to learn about themes in Puppy is my web page:

http://puppylinux.com/technical/themes.htm
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puppyiso


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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jul 2011, 09:47    Post subject:  
Wow, the page has a load of information I was looking for.

I am going to read this right now. That is the overview I needed.

By the way, it is very nice hearing and getting a help from the very creator of puppylinux which I have been using since 2003.

It's like bumping right into Elvis on a street.

Thank you, Mr. Kauler.

And Lobster, that's for the future. I ain't gonna worry 'bout that at the moment.



John
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puppyiso


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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jul 2011, 10:09    Post subject:  
I like cool, settled, dark color theme but Slimpup is too dark and too simple.

I happened to see a chinese theme(I guess) and I liked it. So I want to apply that atmosphere onto Puppy. All the icons are lt. to dk. gray.

This is the one I would like to try.
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puppyiso


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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jul 2011, 10:21    Post subject:  
Quote:


Code:

style "default"
{

fg[NORMAL] = "#000000000000"
fg[ACTIVE] = "#000000000000"
fg[PRELIGHT] = "#000000000000"
fg[SELECTED] = "#ffffffffffff"
fg[INSENSITIVE] = "#000000000000"

bg[NORMAL] = "#b18cb18cb18c"
bg[ACTIVE] = "#ea60ea60ea60"
bg[PRELIGHT] = "#ea60ea60ea60"
bg[INSENSITIVE] = "#b18cb18cb18c"
bg[SELECTED] = "#000000009c40"

text[NORMAL] = "#000000000000"
text[ACTIVE] = "#000000000000"
text[PRELIGHT] = "#000000000000"
text[SELECTED] = "#ffffffffffff"
text[INSENSITIVE] = "#ffffffffffff"

base[NORMAL] = "#b18cb18cb18c"
base[ACTIVE] = "#b18cb18cb18c"
base[PRELIGHT] = "#ea60ea60ea60"
base[SELECTED] = "#000000009c40"


} class "*" style "default"




Similar to HTML color code except it's 12 digits not 6 digits. Let's see 8bits=256colors... Then 16bit color?

#ffffff=white #ffffffffffff= also white?

Photoshop and other graphics programs show some digits but not 16 of them.
How should I choose colors?
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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jul 2011, 11:13    Post subject:  
[quote="puppyiso"]
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Similar to HTML color code except it's 12 digits not 6 digits. Let's see 8bits=256colors... Then 16bit color?

#ffffff=white #ffffffffffff= also white?

Photoshop and other graphics programs show some digits but not 16 of them.
How should I choose colors?


Hi puppiso,
Should be ok to use just 6 digit ( #ffffff ) colour codes . Cool
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