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#16 Post by darkcity »

Hi Aitch

Do you mean put Official in the Derivative of column if its an official version?

Also I wonder if you can help me on which versions are official?

Puppy 525, 511, 431 - are official but what about
4.3.2, 4.4, 2.14R, 2.14X, Wary and Quirky ?

I think what is important to users is long term support and a wide user base with knowledge of version. For example Puppeee has good support and user base but it isn't official as far as I'm aware.

Please update the wiki directly if you see a mistake or improvement, or if unsure comment on the page saying what you'd like to see.

; -)

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here's my wary 5.1.1 build

#17 Post by coopsurv »

in short... wary 5.1.1 retro with 217/431 base.

nothing grand less it runs like old 2.17.1... down to system requirements and memory footprint... usage... yet it's without doubt wary 5.1.1.

my builds closely mimic Barry's... atleast as much as possible regarding packages.../etc/...blah... so not a great need for heavy detail... meaning it's simply a more refined version of Barry's... from which he posts details well.

well... i guess my best attempt asto detail would simply be...

...an hybrid of original 2.17.1 crossed with Barry's current wary 5.1.1... with abit of packaging... blah from Barry's original 4.31... less it itself runs like 2.17.1... completely... including system requirements.

...up at puppy2.org/coopsurv
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#18 Post by darkcity »

Hi Coopsurv

Your Puplet looks good, is it call Wary 5.11 Retro?

If you can provide details in the following format I will add it to the
wiki Puppy Version List

same goes for anyone else's Puplet

Name
Derivative of
Kernel
Size
Window Manager

Description (short, you can make a page on the wiki for a long description)
Link

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#19 Post by Aitch »

Jon

Yes, that was the intention about Official, , although I don't know the answer....part of the reason for my thread [Barry K decides this AFAIK]

I concur with puppyluvr, add details about whether maintained as per my list.

Active, Superseded and Unmaintained as you have it seems to do the job, though - great job. hope the details keep coming in

Maybe, as has been used elsewhere, list early/pre214 [as only surviving/maintained] as Vintage?

To me, it makes little difference if this important info is available/coordinated in the forum, in PLUG, or in the Wiki....as long as it is available

thanks :D

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#20 Post by darkcity »

Does Vintage mean old version of OS or OS for old hardware?

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#21 Post by Aitch »

Yes - Vintage = old [Official] Puppy OS as used here by CatDude

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 4&start=15

[This thread has a lot of useful info about Puppy history/timeline etc though some links are already dead, but the links for the ISOs are good]

Note: I have seen pages which attribute use of 'Puppies' to ttuuxxx's firefox added puppy versions - there doesn't seem to be a written rule.....

NB: Readers, these are NOT all Derivatives!

Aitch :)

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#22 Post by Bruce B »

How do we define Official?

I define it as anything Barry provides us. This would include all the Puppies, .sfs files, source code, .pet files which he puts on servers, such as ibiblio

Anything else, is I guess: user provided? member provided? what?

~

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#23 Post by Bruce B »

Here are some Barry has hosted at ibiblio.org, I'll post more of them later.

puppy-2.16.1-seamonkey-fulldrivers.iso
puppy-2.17.1-nolzma-seamonkey-fulldrivers.iso
puppy-215CE-Final.iso
puppy-3.01-seamonkey.iso
puppy-3.01retro-k2.6.18.1-seamonkey.iso
puppy-4.00-k2.6.21.7-seamonkey.iso
puppy-4.1-k2.6.25.16-seamonkey.iso
puppy-4.1.1-k2.6.25.16-seamonkey.iso
puppy-4.1.1retro-k2.6.21.7-seamonkey.iso
puppy-4.1.2-k2.6.25.16-seamonkey.iso
puppy-4.1.2retro-k2.6.21.7-seamonkey.iso
puppy-4.1retro-k2.6.21.7-seamonkey.iso
puppy-4.2-k2.6.25.16-seamonkey.iso
puppy-4.2.1-k2.6.25.16-seamonkey.iso
puppy-4.2.1retro-k2.6.21.7-seamonkey.iso
puppy-4.2retro-k2.6.21.7-seamonkey.iso

Bruce B

#24 Post by Bruce B »

More of Barry's work on ibiblio

Puppeee-1.0-atom.iso
Puppeee-1.0-celeron.iso
gecko-edubook-laptop v4.3
quirky-1.0
quirky-1.1
quirky-1.2
quirky-1.3
quirky-1.4
quirky-1.4.2
wary-5.0
wary-5.1
wary-5.1.1
wary-5.1.2

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Last edited by runtt21 on Thu 07 Mar 2013, 00:08, edited 1 time in total.
[url]http://macpup.org/runtt21[/url]

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#26 Post by darkcity »

What i'm interested in adding is versions in active development or version in wide spread usage. People can add the history if they want.

I've added MacPup to the Puppy Version List on the wiki

and made a MacPup index page.

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format...

#27 Post by coopsurv »

darkcity wrote:Hi Coopsurv

Your Puplet looks good, is it call Wary 5.11 Retro?

If you can provide details in the following format I will add it to the
wiki Puppy Version List

same goes for anyone else's Puplet

Name
Derivative of
Kernel
Size
Window Manager

Description (short, you can make a page on the wiki for a long description)
Link
Wary5x
Barry's official 4.31
wary 5.1.1
107mb
2.6.30.5
jwm
wary 5.1.1 retro with 217/431 base.
puppy2.org/coopsurv

I'll contact Raffy regarding wika... being he granted my server space.

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#29 Post by Aitch »

Jon

Do you think we should be asking people for issue date as month/year, also?

It might help sorting by date, at some later stage, and give a useful indicator of suitability to some hardware, if nothing else?

runtt21, coopsurv and Bruce - thanks

Aitch :)

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#30 Post by darkcity »

I thinks its useful info, but I didn't want to include too many columns

There is a page for release date info at:-
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/PuppyTimeLine

Not many derivatives in there yet.

The description can include info if its suitable for particular hardware.

Also, each derivative can have a wiki page give full details.

A template for versios would be good, featuring a table with all 'vital statistics'

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#31 Post by runtt21 »

Darkcity,Sir , Thank you very much!! :D


One question , What do you consider "wide spread usage." ?

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#32 Post by darkcity »

@runtt21

"widespread usage" is of course a very vague term. What I'm trying to get at is listing versions which hasn't been superseded by bugfix versions-

for example 5.10 is truly superseded by 5.11 as they are very similar and 5.11 has many bugfixs

does 5.25 supersede 5.11 though? or have features been altered too much?

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The Puppy 2 page needs help! http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Puppy2

Can anyone add a description of the differences between 2.14R 2.14X and 2.17?

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superseded?

#33 Post by gnz11 »

as to whether 511 is superceded by 520/525 my guideline is whether or not a cd update between versions break things.

this is the main thing to avoid between version numbers
even bugfix releases can behave badly

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#34 Post by darkcity »

Where can I find this info, or is it scattered ; -)

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#35 Post by john biles »

TEENpup / Legacy OS release info here > http://puppylinux.org/wikka/LegacyOS
Legacy OS 2017 has been released.

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