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#16 Post by Caneri »

Thanks Kirk,

I ran a few tests and installed the attachment.
I need to sleep now so I'll resume in the morning.

Here's a quick pic from the terminal...big ty.
The kernel is currently configured for "performance" which sets the CPU frequency to max.

I see what you mean about the kernel running for performance..makes perfect sense to me why I may have heat issues...nitey nite..E
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#17 Post by Ray MK »

Hi kirk

Tried the acpi pet and sadly no-go, not even from the menu suspend option.

All the previous 64 pups work so I presume something else has changed.

However, Pemasu has both the acpi / suspend and the temp display issues sorted in his Polarpup-003.

Forget what the program he used is called but he chose it because something about the newer kernel he used prevented normal temp display.

Will look for the info and hopefully it might be of some use.

Thank you again for all that you do.

Very best regards - Ray

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#18 Post by kirk »

Ray MK,

You rebooted after installing the pet package? Are you closing the lid on your laptop to suspend? When you tried to suspend from the menu did a message popped up saying to close the lid? Do these files exist:

/proc/acpi/button/lid/LID/state
/sys/power/state

I too am doubtful about hardinfo's sensor information. I have a desktop with a Athlon X2 250 and hardinfo shows it at 27 degrees. That information doesn't seems to exposed in /sys or /proc on my laptop.

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#19 Post by rcrsn51 »

kirk wrote:I too am doubtful about hardinfo's sensor information. I have a desktop with a Athlon X2 250 and hardinfo shows it at 27 degrees. That information doesn't seems to exposed in /sys or /proc on my laptop.
That's true on many machines. However, CPUtemp can often find a more meaningful temperature.

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#20 Post by Caneri »

Hi All,

Well this morning I tried rcrsn51's programs from his post above.
Pic attached showing 3 different thermal readings.
Pwidgets has no temp but the CPU temp and System>Sensors seem to be the same. I will need to run this for awhile to watch how it goes.

Cpu scaling now works as the pic shows....TY All....Eric
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#21 Post by rcrsn51 »

Caneri wrote:EDIT: during the run for the modprobe I reached 71.38C and if that is accurate then it's hot.
Now you know that 71 C is in the "high" range. It will be interesting to see if OnDemand CPU scaling keeps the temperature lower. Please report back.

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#22 Post by Caneri »

Hi All,

Well there may be an improvement with my heat issue.
I still want to run much longer but I'm encouraged so far.
The lappy was let run for hours without use, aka "idled", and the temp and cpu freq lowered as it should...hooray!!

I still get lower temps with the "one that shall not be named"..ahem, but 55C is much better than idle at 60-65C.

Best,
Eric
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#23 Post by pemasu »

Gatotray is another useful tray temp application.
I compiled latest 2.0 and it has worked fine. Also Xsensors has worked but it needs libsensors.

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#24 Post by rcrsn51 »

pemasu wrote:Gatotray is another useful tray temp application. I compiled latest 2.0 and it has worked fine. Also Xsensors has worked but it needs libsensors.
Unfortunately, on some machines, Gatotray is clearly wrong. I've seen it report a temperature lower than room temp!

However, monitors like CPUtemp that use libsensors have a better chance of getting a meaningful temperature.

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#25 Post by Ray MK »

Hi kirk

Sorry for delayed reply - family and stuff.

Q - You rebooted after installing the pet package?
A - yes,

Q - Are you closing the lid on your laptop to suspend?
A - yes

Q - When you tried to suspend from the menu did a message pop up
A - no messages

1 - Tried a re-start of X when running live - no go
2 - Made a 512mb save_file and re-booted - no go
3 - Both instances running from a vfat SDcard booting via grub4dos
4 - grub4dos is installed to an SDcard (so I can select which puppy of several to boot - all placed in individual folders on the SDcard)
5 - That’s how I tend to run all puppy’s recently because I have not been brave enough to re-size the win7 ntfs partition yet. (works well)


Q - Do these files exist: /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID/state
A - yes they are all there

Q - /sys/power/state
A - yes they are all there

Thanks again for your help.

Very best regards - Ray

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#26 Post by WillM »

When I used GParted it gave the following error;

GParted 0.5.0

Libparted 2.1
Format /dev/sdb6 as ext4 00:00:00 ( ERROR )

calibrate /dev/sdb6 00:00:00 ( SUCCESS )

path: /dev/sdb6
start: 157565583
end: 165758669
size: 8193087 (3.91 GiB)
set partition type on /dev/sdb6 00:00:00 ( SUCCESS )

new partition type: ext4
create new ext4 file system 00:00:00 ( ERROR )

mkfs.ext4 -j -O extent -L "" /dev/sdb6

mke2fs 1.41.9 (22-Aug-2009)
mkfs.ext4: No such device or address while trying to determine filesystem size
libparted messages ( INFO )

WARNING: the kernel failed to re-read the partition table on /dev/sdb (Device or resource busy). As a result, it may not reflect all of your changes until after reboot.


Also same error on beta1.

GParted did create and format a partition on a USB device.

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#27 Post by kirk »

WillM,

If you or anyone else would like to experiment. I've compiled:

e2fprogs-1.41.14
parted-3.0
gparted-0.9.0

There a pet package here:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... -beta4.pet

I don't have a free partition to play with at the moment. I'll try to test later if no one else is able to help.

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#28 Post by WillM »

Thank you kirk,

The update-beta4.pet for GParted worked for me.

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#29 Post by Caneri »

There is an improvement in my heat issue after running for awhile now.
I've just used the lappy with a heavier load and find the temps to be much better.

Aside:
Firefox now opens faster for me than previous FD releases and I think I found a home..TY All.

Eric

PS..I still use tactile methods for the heat issue. Just putting my hand over the HDD and feeling the vent for the fan tells me that the FDbeta4 with the mods from Bill work to run cooler...Best Regards!!
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#30 Post by kirk »

WillM, Thanks for testing that out, saves me some time. Good to here that Caneri.
There's a good chance we'll be falling back to 2.6.39.3. In 3.0rc7 cifs crashes. Supposedly that was fixed in rc7, it's not. There have been some more fixes for cifs that should make it into 3.0, so there's still hope. Might be better to fall back to something more stable anyway. The reason to go with the latest is better hardware support, and now a lot of the video support is in the kernel.

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#31 Post by live »

Can't boot

Tried on fresh USB key.

During boot I have
fd-64-520.sfs not found drop ping out to initial ramdisk console...


P.S. Why not directly a Fatdog64-525 or even based on latest luci ??

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#32 Post by rcrsn51 »

live wrote:Can't boot. Tried on fresh USB key. During boot I have
fd-64-520.sfs not found drop ping out to initial ramdisk console...
Please post the syslinux.cfg file from your flash drive.

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#33 Post by live »

default fatdog
display boot.msg
prompt 1
timeout 50

F1 boot.msg
F2 help.msg

label fatdog
kernel vmlinuz
append initrd=initrd.gz pmedia=cd
OK Unetbootin549....
I'll test with "pmedia=usbflash", but does not boot either.
I'll try to reformat my 4Gb key as FAT16 instead of FAT32, I've already had such issue with Luci


P.S. Why not directly a Fatdog64-525 or even based on latest luci ??

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#34 Post by rcrsn51 »

Even though "pmedia=cd" is wrong, it will eventually find the fd64-520.sfs file. And "pmedia=usbflash" definitely works.

Have a look on the flash drive. Is the file actually there and correctly named in lower case?

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#35 Post by live »

>Is the file actually there and correctly named in lower case?
Not there.

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