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mikeslr · #61 Post by **mikeslr** » Tue 12 Jul 2011, 23:54

I unpacked iso & copied files to /stest folder. Booted into Slacko, obtaining correct (1600x900) desktop. Then tried to change the timezone to US Eastern which required that I restart X. Receive note a Dark GREY Screen. Neither Ctl-Alt-Backspace nor pressing power button did anything. Had to pull the plug. Restarted computer having decided to create a SaveFile before changing timezone. Rebooted into Slacko, but as invitation of setup wireless showed up when I OK'd default XOrg settings, took it, Simple Network Setup worked and Seamonkey Browser took me to the Web. Then selected Shutdown>Reboot: Dark Grey Screen again: Power Button still dimly lite & my monitor did not read "No Signal" as it would if it was not receiving any. Again had to pull the plug. Never had the chance to create a SaveFile. I'll try installing Shutdown pet and see what happens.

My computer's Specs:
Processor: 4x AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 945 Processor
Memory: 3375MB (268MB used)
Resolution to: 1600x900 pixels
VGA compatible controller: ATI Radeon 3100 Graphics
Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI

Edit: Rebooted into Slacko, installed Shutdown pet (don't recall from which thread I downloaed it for future use). Neither desktop icon nor menu entry appeared. So I'm stumped. It's unusual that I'd get a proper desktop file indicating XOrg was working, but then not be able to go from there. Maybe I'll first try installing ATI driver before shutting down?
Suggestions are welcome.

mikesLr

jim3630 · #62 Post by **jim3630** » Wed 13 Jul 2011, 00:06

In all of these debian based pups I've tried squeezed 4.99, attack pup, light house, and maybe spup 121 the code is broken as far as some, certainly broadcoms, wifi drivers are concerned. Or can look at it as these wifi drivers are not supported or they are on the "brown" list.

Had one of pemasu's excellent wl drivers for squeezed 4.99 and just could not connect. o1micko it was just like my experience with your driver. So, after many hours reading and self education and noticing how this problem repeats with certain pups the problem became clear.

When these broadcom drivers as well as others will work in above pups with only a change in the script then why not just include that script in the form of Frisbee.

taca0 · #63 Post by **taca0** » Wed 13 Jul 2011, 04:33

I am trying to use ffplay 0.8 and not works give errors and not play any video.

Some help !

rodin.s · #64 Post by **rodin.s** » Wed 13 Jul 2011, 07:30

My mistake. Sound works.

Lobster · #65 Post by **Lobster** » Wed 13 Jul 2011, 08:27

Fantastic news! it appears Barry has fixed USB booting Very Happy . That may or may not fix your bug Lobster but we'll get that sorted sooner or later.

Thanks Mick, Thanks guys

Woof power from Barry

I wanted to try Slacko (aka Spup aka Spot aka Puppy 5.3) on my Eeepc . . .

Igu's efforts on CUPS will be most welcome, I wonder if Igu will revive his efforts on a KDE SFS so we can have Calligra . . .

http://www.calligra-suite.org/

Later on I hope Ttuuxxx will also bring his compiling skills to Slacko
Great to have testers and compilers at this early stage

Puppy Linux
Ahead of the pack

01micko · #66 Post by **01micko** » Wed 13 Jul 2011, 10:21

Ok, it seems there is something broken with PUI... if you use the BootFlash method then you can install to USB.

taca0, ffplay is broken too

. It is segfaulting so I need to recompile ffmpeg, and mplayer and.....

gjuhasz · #67 Post by **gjuhasz** » Wed 13 Jul 2011, 13:09

01micko wrote:... so I need to recompile ffmpeg, and mplayer and.....

I see that the old Rox right-click menu problem appears again, not only here but in all puppies based on the latest woof.

Anyway, this is the first Slackpup version I could even run in my ancient Toshiba Tecra 8000 machine, (PII 400 MHz 256 MB RAM).
Its performance is very attractive.
Congrats and thanks, 01micko

Brown Mouse · #68 Post by **Brown Mouse** » Wed 13 Jul 2011, 15:03

I'm seeing some odd behavior when copying files from Slacko to any usb storage device,irrelevant of the size of them.
I get a 'Done with errors' message in red text.

James C · #69 Post by **James C** » Thu 14 Jul 2011, 02:41

Attempted to do a simple reformat of an ext3 partition earlier....GParted errored out and left the partition as "unknown".
Any other troubles with GParted?

pemasu · #70 Post by **pemasu** » Thu 14 Jul 2011, 08:00

From Barry's blog

Wrong ROX Filer PET
Oh, recent Woofs have been building puppies with an old version of ROX Filer, one that has the right-click focus bug.

This came about because I removed the 'pet_packages-quirky' repository, which was in the Woof search path. Instead, the Woof scripts have fallen right back to 'pet_packages-4' to find a ROX Filer PET package.

Ok, I have put the correct ROX Filer PET into the 'common' repo. This was compiled in Wary and should work in all puppies.

Download (374KB):
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/pet_pa ... atched.pet

The latest database file for the 'common' repo can also be downloaded, for use in Woof (39KB):
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/Packag ... n-official

#71 Post by **BÃ©Ã¨m** » Thu 14 Jul 2011, 08:44

Brown Mouse wrote:I'm seeing some odd behavior when copying files from Slacko to any usb storage device,irrelevant of the size of them.
I get a 'Done with errors' message in red text.

I think it's only in case the target is a ntfs.
This has been reported before, so apparently no solution yet.

sszindian · #72 Post by **sszindian** » Thu 14 Jul 2011, 18:04

Congratulations 01micko!

This Spup is really fast... installed without problems... printer & scanner setup was easy... Sound wasn't there on initial boot, 2nd boot it was there and only package from PPM I installed was xscreensaver with the dep's , don't know if any of those helped with sound ? I kinda doubt it! (BTW haven't been able to get the screensaver to work yet??)

SeaMonkey... haven't liked it much in the past because of its limitations however, this new one is AOK! They have really come a long ways in a short time. I tried to install Iron-12 but... same old problem as with all Spup's... it just doesn't want to work! I sure wish you could find and get that little quirk fixed!

I commend you on your PPM 'Cloud App!' most are afraid to touch cloud stuff but a lot of it is really nice!

>>>---Indian------>

Iguleder · #73 Post by **Iguleder** » Thu 14 Jul 2011, 19:47

Lobster, don't worry - I want to download the latest Slacko tomorrow and build a big pile of packages, mostly fonts, applications and E17

My new kernel build script is ready, doing a 2.6.32.43 build right now. Very vanilla, very solid, very stable. After this one I also want to try a newer kernel, maybe 3.0.

jim3630 · #74 Post by **jim3630** » Thu 14 Jul 2011, 20:00

jim3630 wrote:When these broadcom drivers as well as others will work in above pups with only a change in the script then why not just include that script in the form of Frisbee.

o1micko, would appreciate your advise.

Is this a personal issue that a workaround solution should be sought out?

Is this a build issue that can be addressed?

mikeslr · #75 Post by **mikeslr** » Fri 15 Jul 2011, 22:00

Hi again,

As I mentioned in my prior post, I can not create a SaveFile. Selecting Reboot drops my computer into a Dark Grey Screen in which it hangs. As some people on the Lighthouse 64-Bit thread were experiencing similar problems, albeit those with nVidia graphics, I decided to try the approach suggested there: adding "nomodeset pfix=vesa,ram" to boot parameters, create a SaveFile, Reboot, exit to prompt, and call Xorgwizard.
No go. Both Shutdown and and exit to prompt results in hung computer.
Am I the only one experiencing this problem with Slacko?
Does similar occurrences on latest sPup and 64-bit builds suggest a woof-build problem? Kernel-choice problem?
If so, might I suggest that solving it should take precedence as being able to create a SaveFile is central to Puppy, and Ati Radeon Graphics are rather common.

mikesLr

sszindian · #76 Post by **sszindian** » Fri 15 Jul 2011, 23:44

sszindian wrote earlier:

(BTW haven't been able to get the screensaver to work yet??)
---------------------------------------------------------------

Hmmmm... it just started working ???? All I did was go into it from the desktop and look around!

Anything on the Iron/Chromium browsers?

>>>---Indian------>

Lobster · #77 Post by **Lobster** » Sat 16 Jul 2011, 07:55

Lobster, don't worry - I want to download the latest Slacko tomorrow and build a big pile of packages, mostly fonts, applications and E17

Where's my fonts?

Good news.

Guys, Mick (01micko) helped and helps on Lucid
and he also has to work to support his family and Puppy addiction . . .
I know he values your compiling, testing and other efforts and encouragement. Thanks igu, no rush really . . .

Puppy Linux
Expect more

Iguleder · #78 Post by **Iguleder** » Sat 16 Jul 2011, 08:00

Just built a barebones dpup, building the font packages right now

Once these are ready, I'm gonna build E17 and make the first dpup with E17 ... and a 64-bit kernel

EDIT: uploading! 100 TTF fonts in one SFS, here. It includes DejaVu, Liberation, Libertine, Ubuntu, FreeFont and Luxi.

Lobster · #79 Post by **Lobster** » Sat 16 Jul 2011, 17:40

Once these are ready, I'm gonna build E17 and make the first dpup with E17 ... and a 64-bit kernel

64bit, then ARM, then tablets, then Smart phones
then Puppy world domination . . .

Barry has just bought a 64bit machine
We might get Woof 64

Downloading the fonts - many thanks.
If you like E17 - try Gnome 3
http://gnome3.org/

Sorry Guys

Normal Slacko service is now resumed

01micko · #80 Post by **01micko** » Sun 17 Jul 2011, 01:39

Oh dear!

After many hours trying to debug Puppy Universal Installer i found the bug (

my fault)

When installing pemasu's new gparted in the woof build system there isn't a gparted.xpm icon in /usr/local/lib/X11/mini-icons! Put one there and PUI is fixed

It is a bug in the old gtkdialog2 really, it should just ignore a missing pixmap and keep going, instead it complains and wont display the gui, messing PUI!

~

mikesLr.. I'd be interested to hear your feedback about your experience with other pups using newer kernels. I want to narrow this down to a kernel issue or an spup xorg issue. I can put in code that will boot your setup to a desktop but then it breaks things for older radeons, which I have and so too yarddog from memory (see old spup 100 thread). Barry has an experimental Wary posted (see his blog) with the 2.6.39.3 kernel. It boots the old way with all the questions before you get a desktop but if that works then i could possibly put in code that prevents radeons booting straight to desktop.

sszindian.. I am looking for a developer for the "Cloud" app.. I can help with coding. Interested? (I'll get onto Iron browser soon, sorry for delays, very busy

)

There will hopefully be a new alpha tonight with usb booting fixed and the PUI fix.

I can put in the latest Seamonkey too but it bloats the iso by 4 meg. Other than that I could put in Firefox and Sylpheed for a 1 meg reduction but we lose composer, a very handy feature of the Seamonkey suite.

What I really want to do is develop a "browserdrive" sfs that is on the cd but loads like a zdrv (which we have). Then it can be unloaded and you can then install any browser you want. It's a kind of "best of both worlds" scenario where puppy comes with a browser but it's not hard coded into the main sfs. It may even be possible to include it in the zdrv and then use technosaurus' "zdrv cutter" app to eliminate the browser. (May suggest this to BK). This may have to wait for a newer version as it will take a lot of development.

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