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Lobster
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Jul 2011, 07:55    Post subject:  

- wanted to see if it would pick up 525 settings - nope booted straight into a pristine
- what no Ethernet auto connection [Lobster faints] I thought Lucid did that now?
- audio OK - will it be persistent - should be Smile
- downloaded FF5 - yes we have some pedigree chum!
- added Transmission bit torrent (so I thought - it is in two places - Internet and Network) the network version seems to be working the Lucid 525 did not?

Cool

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stu90


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Location: England. Dell Inspiron 1501. Dpup

PostPosted: Thu 07 Jul 2011, 07:57    Post subject:  

pemasu wrote:
Beem. Read above article and follow up posts also.
To find the flashvideo descriptor, run this in console:
Code:
stat -c %N /proc/*/fd/* 2>&1|awk -F[\`\'] '/Flash/{print$2}'


To use that knowledge, there is one way described in that above article.


Nice, and no need for lsof dependency. Smile

Not to forget umplayer has build in youtube search/player and downloader as well. Cool
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Thu 07 Jul 2011, 08:29    Post subject:  

stu90. Yep, thats why I included that code since it does not need any extra apps to use.
Umplayer is fantastic universal player. My family was astonished how easily it provided this great finnish music video one morning to our breakfast table. This video made all of us smiling. English version here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLKiknDbFjA

Small egg....big soul......
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Jul 2011, 09:02    Post subject:  

Playdayz

Its really play days now...I can burn some cds and test Puppy again....

One doubt:

Is this based on a newer Woof?
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Jul 2011, 11:39    Post subject:  

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- what no Ethernet auto connection [Lobster faints] I thought Lucid did that now?

Lucid has always done that. luci-262 devel just did that for me--not released yet.

Oh, did you make any change in the firstrun wizard that required restarting X?

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- wanted to see if it would pick up 525 settings - nope booted straight into a pristine

That's because it is called luci while in development. When it is called lupu-526 then it will pick up the 5.2.5 settings.

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PostPosted: Thu 07 Jul 2011, 11:43    Post subject:  

Quote:
One doubt:

Is this based on a newer Woof?

No. It uses the last "non-zzz" Woof and imho changing Woof's would be asking for big trouble, which I do not want Wink

It might be possible to make individual updates, etc.
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Jul 2011, 11:52    Post subject:  

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any chance of 01micko's sfs loader being added?


An sfs loader is on the list. Pemasu has one also--I have asked 01micko--they might even be the same.
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Jul 2011, 12:02    Post subject:  

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sorry it does not have my wifi driver like many of the newer puppy. New HP notebooks, at least the one I'm stuck with, have Broadcom Corporation Device [14e4:4727] using the wl.ko driver.

I have sent a not to the expert (tempestuous). You might try this thread.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=59000
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bigpup


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PostPosted: Thu 07 Jul 2011, 12:07    Post subject:  

Concerning save or no save on shutdown.

Seems to be several methods for getting to a point where you can get this choice.
An idea that I would like to see is this:
in menu->shutdown
Have two options

1.Power off computer - does what it does now normal power off, save file choices, and updates save file.

2. Power off no save - no save options or updates.
Seems like this could be the same shutdown script, but not have the code
that calls for save file choices or control.

Reboot would need the same setup.
Reboot computer- normal reboot with save options and update
Reboot no save - reboots no save options or update.

With two separate shutdown scripts this does not seem too difficult to do.

The glove has been thrown to the floor!

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PostPosted: Thu 07 Jul 2011, 12:29    Post subject:  

Jim3630 needs wl driver which has been compiled by piratesmack and it has its own thread.
The method to use that driver is a little compilcated since it needs b43 and ssb modules to be unloaded.
Kirk made genious script to check the need for those module unloading.
I attached that script to this rebuild wl module pet.
Jim3630 could test this if this works in 2.6.33.2 kernel builds.

About including all those extra drivers for wireless and wired. Great idea, but it will means several Mb xtra weight.
Tempestuous threads are magnificent. There just should be easy way for people to actually find their desperately needed drivers from that thread.
I have noticed that people again and again asks the same questions about those missing drivers and I have several times pointed them to that thread.
Off topic but easily found somekind knowledge base about those drivers would be fantastic. For example in Quickpet link to point to that thread.
And now I am dreaming....somebody could list those drivers as easy knowledge base. Yeah, I know.....
But the driver Jim3630 needs is in another thread and not that easily found. It might be considerable to include that driver and that script if they works since that driver needs most work to get work. And that broadcom wireless chip is not uncommon.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=55792
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Jul 2011, 12:34    Post subject: modem-modprobe and bugfixes for luci260  

playdayz,
I am pleased to see that you have resumed support of Lucid Puppy. I would like to submit my collected updates for the internals of modem and module loading support, but also see that the all-purpose dotpet package appears formidable. I have attached a tailored version of the contents of the "modem-modprobe" package that makes all the changes visible to the integrator.

I ran the package against luci260 and captured the files that were edited by the pinstall script. I took the remaining content and placed everything in 3 directories for convenience. I also collected only the relevant file deletions into a short script that can be run as is or used to identify the required removals.

The main directory contains the "replacement" files. The edited basic puppy files are in the "edited" directory. The third contains a remaster-compatible rework of the fullstart and first-run scripts and reorganization of the special treatment of xorgwizard, which avoid the need for any user workarounds in preparation for a remaster.

Either before, during or after insertion of the files into the main SFS file, the included script must be run or otherwise implemented to clear out obsolete files that could impact operations.

I have included a directory of difference files for the edited files, so you can see the minor-but-needed changes.

I tested all this by using pizzasgood's edit-sfs tool in puppeee 4.4 and ran the result on my main PC. It all seems clean.

Some factors to note:
1. The pupsave update/upgrade process still requires some pre-treatment of the old pupsave file before moving it to a new (upgraded) luci260, to remove or avoid using obsolete files. There is a script to do this at: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=431074#431074
as: modem-modprobe_pre-update_patch-20110420.pet

2. Luci260 contains a file, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-modem.conf, which would now be deleted at the first reboot, due to a design decision made for woof and its derivatives. I have maintained that behavior so that people will not assume they can name the .conf files to begin with "blacklist". To avoid any impact of this, the included script renames that file to "alsa-modem-blacklist", since it blacklists only the possible built-in ALSA modems (if edited by the user to remove the #s).

3. The other .conf name to avoid is any beginning with "modem_"; they are removed when pupdial executes a CHOOSE > ERASE function.

4. This upgrade contains a few more PCI modem firmware tarballs in anticipation of a "retro" version as done for lupu525.

If you have any concerns I have not anticipated, please contact me. Thanks for making Lucid Pup so exciting -- dazzling and peppy!
Richard
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Jul 2011, 12:39    Post subject:  

Quote:
Would like to see mrxvt instead of urxvt as the standard terminal. This is more in the cosmetics department... Makes a better first impression.


Also please consider RoxTerm - this is a excellent console termimal.
You can copy, paste, change colors, font size, etc from menu options available.

This is possible. I do not know mrxvt, but I will look. It would stimulate discussion Wink The reason to change, to my mind, is that we are wanting to make it easy for people to use Puppy Linux--and using the terminal is a part of using Linux. Therefore, making the terminal work as they probably expect would make using the terminal less of an obstacle.

Roxterm uses libvte--there is another that does also that I cannot remember at the moment. Using Ubuntu Natty packages it adds 0.5MB--maybe someone could compile for Lucid?

I think it is Lxterm that also uses vte.
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Jul 2011, 12:51    Post subject:  

Libvte using terminals are LXterminal and Termit also. They all have copy - paste tabs in edit menu.
I compiled the latest Termit couple of days ago. It needs liblua also.
Middleclick with toucpad and its buttons in my laptop is really difficult so I use only those copy-paste terminals.
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Jul 2011, 12:59    Post subject:  

Something to consider adding to PPM.

Menu Entry Maker
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=69453

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PostPosted: Thu 07 Jul 2011, 12:59    Post subject:  

pemasu, lxterminal looks good. Did you happen to compile libvte also? The Ubuntu version is large.

We will still include the urxvt terminal for those who prefer.
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