Lucid Puppy 5.2.7 RC2

[playdayz]

I often wondered why there isn't a possibility in PPM to download the selected PET instead of installing it.
I prefer to download the PET to a directory of my choice.

Same for me.

It is already possible to easily download and save the pets in the puppy-lucid repo.
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/

Then choose pet-packages-lucid

This is where the Download link on puppylinux.com takes you.

[playdayz]

Assuming you update luci manually, you can either first delete the old database (directory /usr/share/usb_modeswitch)

rerwin, This is what I did, manually delete /usr/share/usb_modeswitch and replace with the new one. I also updated /lib/udev/rules.d/40-usb_modeswith.rules, which was also in the pet. Thanks.

[James C]

Frugal install of Luci 265 on an old Intel box.Booted to working sound and display...... had to use Network Wizard to get connection.

Wed 20 Jul 2011 Operating System: Lucid Puppy-265 Linux 2.6.33.2
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
oem: Intel(r) 82945G Chipset Family Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS product: Intel(r) 82945G Chipset Family Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0

X Server: Xorg Driver: unknown
X.Org version: 1.7.6
dimensions: 1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes


Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Core 0: 2999 1: 2999 MHz

...the above also recorded at '/tmp/root/report-video-glx'.


-Computer-
Processor : 2x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Memory : 2066MB (139MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.26
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Wed 20 Jul 2011 01:55:17 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA Intel


VGA compatible controller : Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Audio device : Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
Ethernet controller : Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8001 Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 14)

# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 2066580 481580 1585000 0 39352
Swap: 0 0 0
Total: 2066580 481580 1585000

No problems....... wish I could say the same for that darn Nvidia box......

[stu90]

If you like Lxtask, here is my freemem_applet tray which has right clicks and also lxtask right click in it.

EDIT. I added latest Lxtask also.

Thanks pemasu - your .pets are working well here.
cheers.

[live]

Openshot 1.3.1 does not function anymore with Luci265, it used to with Pup525

File /usr/lib/mlt/libmltqimage.so has these missing library files:
libQtXml.so.4 libQtSvg.so.4 libQtGui.so.4 libQtCore.so.4
File /usr/lib/mlt/libmltkino.so has these missing library files:
libquicktime.so.1 libdv.so.4
File /usr/lib/mlt/libmltsox.so has these missing library files:
libsox.so.1
File /usr/lib/mlt/libmltdv.so has these missing library files:
libdv.so.4
File /usr/lib/frei0r-1/facedetect.so has these missing library files:
libcv.so.4 libhighgui.so.4 libcvaux.so.4 libml.so.4 libcxcore.so.4
File /usr/lib/frei0r-1/rgbparade.so has these missing library files:
libgavl.so.1
File /usr/lib/frei0r-1/scale0tilt.so has these missing library files:
libgavl.so.1
File /usr/lib/frei0r-1/vectorscope.so has these missing library files:
libgavl.so.1

[playdayz]

live, I just installed Python 2.6 and Openshot 1.3.1 from the Puppy Package Manger and it seemed to work. It started and loaded and played an mp4 video anyway. (I am using the pre-266 luci though.)

You must install python first, and you must ignore the errors. I am irritated with PPM because those are not real errors--the libraries are just not where PPM expects them to be. Sometimes I can do some slight of hand to conceal the "errors" but not in the case of Openshot. I have requested the ability to turn the error checking off because all of the packages in the puppy-lucid repo are checked already, but that hasn't happened. Any hackers???

The errors you show are missing Qt files--perhaps you had a different Openshot?

[Jim1911]

Hi playdayz,

This is a fast, solid release. Everything appears to work fine with one glaring exception. It does not recognize my Wifi network, so no wireless internet access. It does not see my Belkin Wireless USB Adapter N300. There are a number of WPA and WEP connections available to connect.

Cheers,
Jim

[playdayz]

It does not see my Belkin Wireless USB Adapter N300. There are a number of WPA and WEP connections available to connect.

Hi jim1911. I understand the first sentence (unfortunately), but I don't understand the second sentence--could you explain please. Thanks.
Oh, never mind, you mean that there are several wifi networks in the air around your place. Got it--sometimes it just takes me a while.

rerwin has made an adjustment for luci-266 already--so here's hoping

btw, did you try to install Frisbee from the menu entry? Any difference?

[Jades]

I've done a reasonably extensive test of XineDVD on Merlin, the Pentium D. Works every bit as well as always.

It's a really close thing on space. Really close--but having it in PPM is still good. Thanks.

No problem. IIRC GNOME MPlayer does them as well so we've got a player already in the bundle. Continued XineDVD testing didn't show any more problems.

On a sad note, it appears that my K6 machine has blown up. PSU is definitely dead and I suspect the memory and possibly the mainboard and CPU have gone too.

Luckily the HDDs appear to be fine and I have a spare Athlon XP1800+ mainboard CPU and RAM lying around in a box. IIRC Win98 didn't run on it though.

[playdayz]

Jades, I know I am being silly about XineDVD and that gnome-mplayer plays dvd's just fine--but I think people are more used to software dvd players such as PowerDVD--XineDVD looks ande acts more like one of those. My wife is my test subject--she understands XineDVD and it feels comfortable and familiar to her.

[Bert]

Plus, I am hopeful that the no-hard-drive-usb-booting bug is addressed.

Can someone confirm this is now solved?
I had no luck trying it on a new Atom box, with no internal HDD. Tried all possible bios settings...

I was trying to boot frugally (manual install) and changed the pmedia parameter to pmedia= usb-HD, usbHD and usbhd, but no luck so far.

It could very well be I'm the cause of these problems, as I have a tendency to overlook essential things. So if anyone succeeded in booting from usb without internal HDD, I would be grateful to hear about it, so that I can start searching for my mistakes

[Jades]

Jades, I know I am being silly about XineDVD and that gnome-mplayer plays dvd's just fine--but I think people are more used to software dvd players such as PowerDVD--XineDVD looks ande acts more like one of those. My wife is my test subject--she understands XineDVD and it feels comfortable and familiar to her.

If it will fit, XineDVD is a really quality addition and should be made the default DVD player if that's possible. It's superb. I only mentioned GNOME Mplayer because it's a workable existing solution we can fall back on if you can't get XineDVD to fit.

BTW, somewhat to my surprise my K6 appears to be working again, albeit with a temporary replacement for the PSU (which is categorically dead). Took it a while to sort itself out after fitting the working PSU and I really did think I'd fried the whole lot.

[bigpup]

Plus, I am hopeful that the no-hard-drive-usb-booting bug is addressed.

Can someone confirm this is now solved?
I had no luck trying it on a new Atom box, with no internal HDD. Tried all possible bios settings...

I was trying to boot frugally (manual install) and changed the pmedia parameter to pmedia= usb-HD, usbHD and usbhd, but no luck so far.

It could very well be I'm the cause of these problems, as I have a tendency to overlook essential things. So if anyone succeeded in booting from usb without internal HDD, I would be grateful to hear about it, so that I can start searching for my mistakes

What is the USB device you are using?

Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected, expected?

[Bert]

What is the USB device you are using?

Hi Bigpup,

It's a Samsung 2.5" hd in a usb enclosure.
Thanks.

Edit: haha, I just now, after posting, see your expected/unexpected joke..

[rerwin]

It does not see my Belkin Wireless USB Adapter N300. There are a number of WPA and WEP connections available to connect.

rerwin has made an adjustment for luci-266 already--so here's hoping

btw, did you try to install Frisbee from the menu entry? Any difference?

Playdayz,
Please be aware that I do not consider myself an "expert" as wifi matters. I have dabbled with it on the outside -- added tempestuous' wifi drivers for 4.3.11. My knowledge is about module loading -- I can set up preferences in cases where multiple drivers recognize a particular device. But as to the intricacies of troubleshooting wifi, I am only a novice. I have avoided using wifi for telecommute-security reasons, but recently had to set up a WAP-bridge, which taught me a lot about that.

Having said all that, I am willing to respond to wifi issues that might be related to driver-module loading, but must rely on tempestuous for solutions to deeper issues.

As usual, I expect that anyone serious about having me diagnose a modem, sound or wifi problem to post/PM a pmodemdiag tar.gz file. It yields information useful for more than just modem issues.

I just don't want us to raise false hopes about any wifi wizardry on my part.
Richard

EDIT: After making that disclaimer, I googled the belkin device an find it requires module rt2870, which is not in luci. I will check tempestuous' thread about additional modules for luci's kernel. I will edit this message with any findings. R

Progress: Tempestuous has addressed this problem with an added driver, here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 187#481085
I will install it to see if it includes the N300 (050d:945a). R

No progress: Although rt3572sta supports several Belkin (050d) devices, the N300 (945a) is not among them. Perhaps tempestuous could be requested to add it to his rebuild of that module. R

[playdayz]

Can someone confirm this is now solved?
I had no luck trying it on a new Atom box, with no internal HDD. Tried all possible bios settings...

Bert, I did create a usb stick that did boot on a machine with no drives present at all--no hard drive, no cd/dvd. That was with luci-265. I made one with an ext4 file system using gparted and Puppy universal Installer and one with a fat32 fs using Bootflash and both booted with no drives present. It was a semi-modern machine with a Gigabyte AM3 motherboard and a Phenom 2 X4.

Who knows though? It is certainly possible that some machines will and some won't.


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[playdayz]

I just don't want us to raise false hopes about any wifi wizardry on my part.

Understood rerwin. I am wondering--we have some extra space--why don't we add some drivers.

Perhaps tempestuous will be kind enough to suggest which ones would give us the best bang for the buck.

[bigpup]

What is the USB device you are using?

Hi Bigpup,

It's a Samsung 2.5" hd in a usb enclosure.
Thanks.

If you have no hard drive.
The computer bios needs to be set to boot from USB.
The USB hard drive I assume needs to be flagged boot.
The universal installer sets up a boot-able flash drive like attached image.
I assume an external USB hard drive would need to be setup like an internal hard drive.
An MBR
A bootloader
An install of Puppy.

[Bert]

Can someone confirm this is now solved?
I had no luck trying it on a new Atom box, with no internal HDD. Tried all possible bios settings...

Bert, I did create a usb stick that did boot on a machine with no drives present at all--no hard drive, no cd/dvd. That was with luci-265. I made one with an ext4 file system using gparted and Puppy universal Installer and one with a fat32 fs using Bootflash and both booted with no drives present.

Who knows. It is certainly possible that some machines will and some won't.


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Thank you playdayz.
I also used Luci-265, gparted and ext4. After trying to install with the PUI without result, I tried to install manually.
As I said, this Atom board is new to me. I will continue trying tomorrow. Will also try a usb key. it's about 1.20 AM here and apart from a neighbour's donkey, everyone is asleep in this small street where I live

[Bert]

If you have no hard drive.
The computer bios needs to be set to boot from USB.

Yes, that's how it's set

The USB hard drive I assume needs to be flagged boot.

Yes, the partition has a booting flag.

The universal installer sets up a boot-able flash drive like attached image.

It did, but Luci-265 didn't boot..

I assume an external USB hard drive would need to be setup like an internal hard drive.
An MBR
A bootloader
An install of Puppy.

The MBR is there,
A bootloader? Why in this simple constellation (one usb HD, one OS, no internal HD, no CD/DVD drives)?

Thanks bigpup!